Q How can I improve performance A Try the Experimental Navmesh patch in Miscellaneous files. Put it at the end of your Load Order, just behind DynDOLOD. Navmesh edits in Solitude from other plugins, cannot under any circumstances, go after the ES Navmesh plugin.
Q I have clipping terrain, buried stuff etc A Move the ES Terrain patch to a higher priority in your Load Order and re-run your grass cache
Q How well does this mod perform? A Depends - e.g. On an empty game, on a laptop, 55FPS
Alpha 3.1 has about 2/3rd of the MCM setup. That includes - the Rookery, Red Flags, Golden Hen, Proudspire, Bathouse, BP Courtyard, Copper Dragon Brewery, The Imperial Physician, Divine Octavo, Exterior Terrain, Flora, College Of Whispers, Cake O Clock Bakery, Books Of Skyrim, Blacksmiths and some others probably.
ES AI Overhaul in optional downloads ES Bells of Skyrim patch in optional downloads ES BPT LoTD in optionals ES Collision Planes in Miscellaneous downloads ES DevAveza patch here Enhanced Solitude and DA Skyship here ES Dlizzios Mesh Fixes in optional downloads ES Drinking fountains of Skyrim patch here ES Drengins Blue Palace Terrace in optional downloads ES Enhanced Landscapes patch here ES Enhanced Trees of Solitude in optionals ES Epic Solitude patch here ES Essential NPC Fix here ES Exterior eFPS Boost patches in optionals ES EVGAT patch in optionals ES Fixes Tweaks & enhancements patches here ES Happy Little Shrubs in optional downloads ES Immersive Laundry patch in optional downloads ES Imperial Mail patch in optional downloads ES JK Temple Of The Divines in optionals ES JKs Blue Palace patch here ES LoTD collision Planes in Miscellaneous downloads ES LoTD Open Cities patch here ES LoTD v5 Patch is on the LoTDv5 patches page here ES LOSII JK Skyrim patch here ES LOSIIv4 patch in optional downloads ES LOSIIv4 TML patch in optional downloads ES Medieval Lanterns of Skyrim patch here ES Experimental FPS Navmesh patch available in miscellaneous ES Open Cities patch ES Outlaws Refuges patch in optional downloads ES Redbag patch in optional downloads ES RS Children in optional downloads ES Shadows of the Past patch in optional downloads ES Snazzy Exteriors - Brylings Garden patch here ES Springwood Estate patch here ES Storefront Patch in optional downloads ES Terrain Patch in optional downloads ES USSEP patch in optional downloads ES Vanilla textures for buildings patch here.
Modular patches between ES and Drengin's Blue Palace Terrace, Legacy of the Dragonborn v5, Palaces and Castles Enhanced, Enhanced Solitude, Enhanced Solitude Docks, Solitude Skyway patches are here. I have updated the ES BPT LoTD patch from there and its available in optional downloads.
JK/DOS JK/DOS Skyrim users get the patch from here. This patch file does not require a patch for eFPS (it already removes the collision planes)
If using eFPS mod and ES + JK Patch do enable Occ_Skyrim_JK-Skyrim_patch do not enable Occ_Skyrim-Enhanced_Solitude-patch, as that will re-enable the dissapearing walls
JK Temple of The Divines users, get the patch file in optionals
DISSAPEARING WALLS and eFPS Occlusion mod
Mods that cause dissapearing walls etc -
Occlusion eFPS - (Patch in optionals) JK Temple Of The Divines (Patch in optionals) JK Skyrim (Get the ES/JK patch from here) Legacy Of The Dragonborn (Patch in miscellaneous)
If you still have dissapearing walls, you need to investigate what mods in your load order are touching those collision walls/invisible planes
I just tried "ES Navmesh Patch Experimental" as I remember I was seeing NPC's stuck on invisible barriers, but it says "missing Water for ENB" on its plug-in. I guess it's hard requirement, right?
No, do not eslify any navmesh plugin. It reduces performance. By my testing, keeping the navmesh plugin as a normal esp increases performance. You can test it out, I would be interested to know if it makes a difference on other setups.
i download enhanced shiplods. The only mod that improves the sucky vanilla lods when using dyndolod 3. those lods are awesome but the strangest thing is that only with the largeship01lod.nif i got problems. there is some purple blue distorted thing which might be a mast or something stuck to that particular ship : base ID is 0004dd2d. its in solitude dock
I may have solved the giant Bard's College hole issue! I have been trying for... a really long time to fix it.
The Bards College was mostly missing from the outside, but was fine on the inside (with JK's Bards College). There was a giant hole on the outside where the college should be with some parts of the building still floating there. People were falling through the hole.
There are many posts going back thru last year, in these comments and on other mod pages, with the same problem. Some even claim they solved it, but I couldn't figure it out. Many say to install JK Bard's College, but I already had it, and still had the issue.
First, I have no idea how much of this post is helping or hurting. It is what I ended up with, but while I did a lot of trial and error, when I got it working, I mostly stopped where I was. I hope people can improve my mod/load order here because I have other problems in Solitude I will mention below.
I have installed these mods and patches (and others) in MO2 , mostly in this (imperfect) relative load order, and part of a much larger load order:
I have Occ_Skyrim-Enhanced_Solitude_patch.esp from eFPS - Official Patch Hub. I have the JKs Bards College - Enhanced Solitude Patch.esp from JK's Guild HQ Interiors Patch Collection.
Notes: I don't have JK"s Skyrim or any Solitude Docks mods, for better or worse. This is on an early game, then on a new game. Current game version: v.1.6.640. Pretty beefy computer.
Here is what I did that finally worked.
I reinstalled JK's Bard's College and extracted the BSA (though that maybe did not make a difference).
Then I finally realized there are TWO Enhanced Solitude/JK's Bards College .ESP's! One from the Enhanced Solitude page and one from JK's Guild HQ Interiors Patch Collection! I ended up moving the JK's Guild ESP patch down under the Enhanced Solitude ESP patch. I did not try the other way (with the other one lowest) 'cause in testing it already just worked.
No more hole, and Bard's College is there after being missing for 6 months!
Can anyone give advice on the mods/load order I have listed? Other problems I have:
- The newer area added by Enhanced Solitude North-West of Proudspire Manor: It looks like a hole/nothingness until you get close, then that whole district suddenly pops in.
- Nature of the Wild Lands (NotWL): the patches I have seen may not be enough. I have plants clipping through a lot of places.
- Also in testing I had guards literally doing swimming animation through the air (!). I think that is gone now (I hope).
Finally, I gotta say:
kojak747! Enhanced Solitude is unreal! Simply breathtaking! The scope is so daring that of course there are some issues. I hope you can bring yourself to finish your version 3.x Thank you for this giant puzzle of an overhaul! If you want me to edit any of this I will.
I'm still dealing with performance optimizations, and have uploaded an expiremental Navmesh patch that improves performance. If you try it, make sure it goes at the very end of your plugins, just behind DynDOLOD.
It's because I'm moving both ESD and ES from ESM's back to ESP's because a/ I dont have a problem with ref counts in my save file and b/ it improves ES performance. If folk want to esmify the plugins themselves thats fine. Re your cyclic rules, if you look at your LO in WryeBash you will see some coloured orange, those are the ones with out of order masters in the file header. Load those plugins up in xedit, then do sort masters on the plugin. That might help cure your Vortex cyclic rules, but I don't use it so hope that helps.
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A Try the Experimental Navmesh patch in Miscellaneous files. Put it at the end of your Load Order, just behind DynDOLOD. Navmesh edits in Solitude from other plugins, cannot under any circumstances, go after the ES Navmesh plugin.
Q I have clipping terrain, buried stuff etc
A Move the ES Terrain patch to a higher priority in your Load Order and re-run your grass cache
Q How well does this mod perform?
A Depends - e.g. On an empty game, on a laptop, 55FPS
Q How can I use vanilla textures for this mod?
A Try Enhanced Solitude with Vanilla textures
Q I have flickering buildings?
A There is a flickering fix patch in the downloads.
Q There are invisible walls?
A Use the collision planes patch in the Miscellaneous downloads section. JK/eFPS users check the Patches info below.
Q Can I port this to Xbox?
A No. It's not possible due to existing permissions.
Version 3 of Enhanced Solitude is under development! New features include
an MCM with multiple options... that will reduce drawcalls and improve performance.
Alpha 3.1 has about 2/3rd of the MCM setup.
That includes - the Rookery, Red Flags, Golden Hen, Proudspire, Bathouse, BP Courtyard, Copper Dragon Brewery, The Imperial Physician, Divine Octavo, Exterior Terrain, Flora, College Of Whispers, Cake O Clock Bakery, Books Of Skyrim, Blacksmiths and some others probably.
Available Patches: (Recently updated)
ES AI Overhaul in optional downloads
ES Bells of Skyrim patch in optional downloads
ES BPT LoTD in optionals
ES Collision Planes in Miscellaneous downloads
ES DevAveza patch here Enhanced Solitude and DA Skyship here
ES Dlizzios Mesh Fixes in optional downloads
ES Drinking fountains of Skyrim patch here
ES Drengins Blue Palace Terrace in optional downloads
ES Enhanced Landscapes patch here
ES Enhanced Trees of Solitude in optionals
ES Epic Solitude patch here
ES Essential NPC Fix here
ES Exterior eFPS Boost patches in optionals
ES EVGAT patch in optionals
ES Fixes Tweaks & enhancements patches here
ES Happy Little Shrubs in optional downloads
ES Immersive Laundry patch in optional downloads
ES Imperial Mail patch in optional downloads
ES JK Temple Of The Divines in optionals
ES JKs Blue Palace patch here
ES LoTD collision Planes in Miscellaneous downloads
ES LoTD Open Cities patch here
ES LoTD v5 Patch is on the LoTDv5 patches page here
ES LOSII JK Skyrim patch here
ES LOSIIv4 patch in optional downloads
ES LOSIIv4 TML patch in optional downloads
ES Medieval Lanterns of Skyrim patch here
ES Experimental FPS Navmesh patch available in miscellaneous
ES Open Cities patch
ES Outlaws Refuges patch in optional downloads
ES Redbag patch in optional downloads
ES RS Children in optional downloads
ES Shadows of the Past patch in optional downloads
ES Snazzy Exteriors - Brylings Garden patch here
ES Springwood Estate patch here
ES Storefront Patch in optional downloads
ES Terrain Patch in optional downloads
ES USSEP patch in optional downloads
ES Vanilla textures for buildings patch here.
JK/DOS
JK/DOS Skyrim users get the patch from here.
This patch file does not require a patch for eFPS (it already removes the collision planes)
If using eFPS mod and ES + JK Patch
do enable Occ_Skyrim_JK-Skyrim_patch
do not enable Occ_Skyrim-Enhanced_Solitude-patch, as that will re-enable the dissapearing walls
JK Temple of The Divines users, get the patch file in optionals
DISSAPEARING WALLS and eFPS Occlusion mod
Mods that cause dissapearing walls etc -
Occlusion eFPS - (Patch in optionals)
JK Temple Of The Divines (Patch in optionals)
JK Skyrim (Get the ES/JK patch from here)
Legacy Of The Dragonborn (Patch in miscellaneous)
If you still have dissapearing walls, you need to investigate what mods in your load order are touching those collision walls/invisible planes
Look for the following in SSEDIT and let me know what mods are touching it
Plane Marker XX10C320
Collision Marker 0003E610
MAKE YOUR OWN DIY PATCHES
REQUEST A PATCH
Leave the details of your mod patch request in the comments. You should also include the link to the mod, and list any major conflicts.
Thanks
I guess it's hard requirement, right?
strangest thing is that only with the largeship01lod.nif i got problems. there is some purple blue distorted thing which might be a mast or something stuck to that particular ship : base ID is 0004dd2d. its in solitude dock
The Bards College was mostly missing from the outside, but was fine on the inside (with JK's Bards College). There was a giant hole on the outside where the college should be with some parts of the building still floating there. People were falling through the hole.
There are many posts going back thru last year, in these comments and on other mod pages, with the same problem. Some even claim they solved it, but I couldn't figure it out. Many say to install JK Bard's College, but I already had it, and still had the issue.
First, I have no idea how much of this post is helping or hurting. It is what I ended up with, but while I did a lot of trial and error, when I got it working, I mostly stopped where I was. I hope people can improve my mod/load order here because I have other problems in Solitude I will mention below.
I have installed these mods and patches (and others) in MO2 , mostly in this (imperfect) relative load order, and part of a much larger load order:
Nature of the Wild Lands
Enhanced Solitude SSE
ES USSEP Patch
Enhanced Solitude Lightened and Fixes
JK's Blue Palace
JK's Castle Dour
JK's Temple of the Divines
JK's The Bards College
JK's Solitude Outskirts
JK's The Winking Skeever
Solitude Clock Tower
Solitude Catacombs Tweak
Enhanced Solitude SSE - RS Children Patch
We Are The Music Makers A Bard Overhaul - Less Noisy Version
JKs Guild HQ Interiors Patch Collection (I think this needs to be lower)
HS Player Homes - Proudspire Manor and some patches for it
eFPS - Official Patch Hub
JK's Solitude Outskirts Patch Collection
JK's Blue Palace - Enhanced Solitude Patch
Enhanced Solitude - Torch Textures
Enhanced Solitude - AI Overhaul patch
Enhanced Solitude - Flickering Buildings Fix
Enhanced Solitude - Exterior FPS Boost patch
Enhanced Solitude - JK The Bards College
Enhanced Solitude - JK Temple Of The Divines Patch
Enhanced Solitude - EVGAT Patch
ES Terrain Patch
I have Occ_Skyrim-Enhanced_Solitude_patch.esp from eFPS - Official Patch Hub.
I have the JKs Bards College - Enhanced Solitude Patch.esp from JK's Guild HQ Interiors Patch Collection.
Notes:
I don't have JK"s Skyrim or any Solitude Docks mods, for better or worse.
This is on an early game, then on a new game.
Current game version: v.1.6.640.
Pretty beefy computer.
Here is what I did that finally worked.
I reinstalled JK's Bard's College and extracted the BSA (though that maybe did not make a difference).
Then I finally realized there are TWO Enhanced Solitude/JK's Bards College .ESP's! One from the Enhanced Solitude page and one from JK's Guild HQ Interiors Patch Collection! I ended up moving the JK's Guild ESP patch down under the Enhanced Solitude ESP patch. I did not try the other way (with the other one lowest) 'cause in testing it already just worked.
No more hole, and Bard's College is there after being missing for 6 months!
Can anyone give advice on the mods/load order I have listed? Other problems I have:
- The newer area added by Enhanced Solitude North-West of Proudspire Manor: It looks like a hole/nothingness until you get close, then that whole district suddenly pops in.
- Nature of the Wild Lands (NotWL): the patches I have seen may not be enough. I have plants clipping through a lot of places.
- Also in testing I had guards literally doing swimming animation through the air (!). I think that is gone now (I hope).
Finally, I gotta say:
kojak747! Enhanced Solitude is unreal! Simply breathtaking! The scope is so daring that of course there are some issues. I hope you can bring yourself to finish your version 3.x Thank you for this giant puzzle of an overhaul! If you want me to edit any of this I will.
And I hope this post helps somebody.
Alpha 3.1 changes some rules with Enhanced Solitude Docks, I'm not sure why.
Hopefully fixed in future updates.
What the