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1. Does {insert mod here} need a patch?
If one doesn't exist, I either don't know, or it doesn't. My testing list (probably out of date at this point, but close enough) is here. Being on it doesn't guarantee that I'll make a patch if it needs one, but if it's on that list and one isn't present, you've got decent odds of not needing it.
2. Can you make a patch for {insert mod here}?
Probably yes, but I'm also not planning on it. I've burnt out HARD the past couple months. I'm scratching the surface trying to start up on stuff I always planned on doing, but I do NOT intend to have my TODO list grow at this point, because it'd be a miracle if I finish what's on it at this point.
2a. What about {insert lighting mod}?
As this was pointed few times before - we're not planning to make the patches for ELFX Shadows. WiZKiD and nicola are working on their own ELFX Shadows - Official Patches Hub, so if you're looking for a patch, you should ask there. ELFX patches available here should work with ELFX Shadows, but some issues can occur. Patches for ELFX Enhancer and ELFX Hardcore won't be compatible due to compacting and eslifying both modules in ELFX Shadows. Those available here are dedicated to original ELFX Enhancer / Hardcore.
RLO and Relighting Skyrim were started at one point and then abandoned because the parent mods hadn't removed bulbs they disabled which made working with them in CK a nightmare. Relighting Skyrim, as of late 2022, has fixed this so there's potential to revisit this at some point in the future, but it's not an immediate concern.
3. You made a patch for {mod}. Is it good?
Honestly, as weird as this sounds, I have no idea. A lot of them I've never played with they're things I just thought looked neat. Some of them are staples of my load order. Some of them are things I tried and made a patch for but ended up not liking. Having a patch should not be taken as a recommendation or indication of quality.
4. My game crashed after installing your patches, what gives?
Crashing usually happens because you have some mod which is compacted formIDs, and the patches assume you have not compacted. Patches are made to compacted versions if they're available on the main mod page, otherwise to the uncompacted versions. You may have a compacted version from a discord or something, or in the case of armor mods it's very common for bodyslide specific re-uploads of stuff to compact plugins for people. That's great, but the installer has no way to differentiate, so I stick to the original. You'll need to work around that yourself. Common culprits are armor mods and Solitude and Temple Frescoes (which you were explicitly warned about). There's a bunch more suggestions for
debugging over on the Articles tab (as well as a second article specific to Opulent Thieves Guild).
5. I found a bug!
That's not a question. Also, great! Also, an incompatibility isn't a bug. If you want to let us know what's going on, please use screenshots, and especially More Informative Console to point out what's wrong. It might also make you realize it wasn't, in fact, our patch that's the problem :D
Moving forwards, any bug filed without screenshots with MIC, or appropriate description of debug steps taken will be closed as not a bug without response. We've been fielding debug requests for a long time now - years at this point - and while there's certainly potential for stuff to be wrong in our patches, they've been around long enough and there's SO f***ing MANY of them that trying to disprove any random bug report is a fool's errand and honestly is the primary drain on motivation for making anything new. We are 100% happy to fix any bugs in our s***. But before we handle them, it's on you to demonstrate that it's our s*** causing the bug.
6. It didn't install patches for some of the palaces, what gives?
You didn't read the warning tab that you clicked through. Argh. Go to this page and install those. It happened because you have Palaces and Castles Enhanced installed.
7. This patch is looking for DBM_{something} while I have DBM_{something}_DoS. What gives?
You're using Dawn of Skyrim. I don't. I'm sure it's a perfectly groovy mod - I may in fact check it out some other time. But looking for that mod which has that shared master isn't just for that. It'd be making 1) DoS patch, 2) DoS + ES, 3) DoS + JK, 4) DoS+Skyway, 5) DoS + LOTD, 6) DoS+ES+LOTD, .....you get the picture. It's almost a factorial scale (not quite because ES and JK are disjoint). I just...no. Not happening. Sorry. From what folks have said, you can swap masters and it works fine.
8. This patch says it needs {insert CC master here}
Anytime we load up CK, it loads up ALL masters (including those CC) and includes them on the patches. The update is over a year old, I'm done cleaning the masters every time for people who don't want to update.
Options? You can create dummy esps with the names of the missing CC plugins, and then clean the masters in the patch file using xEdit. Google it, it's not that hard. But really, just update the game at this point. You can update the game and then use Skyrim Lite Loader or "Best of both worlds" version of Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Downgrade Patcher - you'll still have the 1.5.97.0 engine (so all these DLL/SKSE mods which still haven't received the update to the newest version of the game would still work) and all the free CC content which is needed by recent versions of USSEP, CRF, AI Overhaul, Immersive Citizens and ever-increasing amount of our patches based on these mods.
I've made a Discord server to handle quick questions for those so inclined, and my TODO/pre-release stuff should be there (it's a smidge out of date right now, sorry). There might be folks who can help answer quick questions in there (including us!) but no guarantees.
Thanks!
Also, there's a patch in there for Citizens of Tamriel. Would it possible to get a patch for ezPG as well?
https://pastebin.com/KfzTSnGb
Moreover, the patch was removed with the recent update of the collection (it's only available in the optional files as I'm lazy AF and haven't cleaned this section yet) and won't be hosted here anymore. We're going to move it to RedBag's Solitude Patch Collection after the update.
Instead should I merge the patch files along with the main files being patched as well?
probably in about a year- edit: already fixed).Edit: to be clear, the problem is the exterior. Interior is fine. Exterior is making things float and whatever.
Edit edit: Also Magical Blackreach hasn't been updated in like two years so it's probably a one-time fix kinda deal.
I am running Dawn of Skyrim, Jk Skyrim, Legacy of the Dragonborn, and Deadly shadows.
I have a missing master JKs Blue palace - Jk skyrim - LotD patch.esp depends on DBM_JKskyrim_Patch.esp but is missing.
No idea what I did wrong.