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Separates bows into two categories: long and short, both being vastly different for a greater amount of play styles. No scripts, no leveled list changes, light weight, highly compatible.
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Long N' Short Bows
ACE, SkyRE and Perkus Maximus are perk overhauls which also separated bows into two categories: long and short. However, they also changed much more than that, making compatibility between other mods a hassle.
Long N' Short Bows is basically a stripped down version of the Archery module of ACE, ending up with two distinctly different categories of bows, while being compatible with nearly every other mod. No scripts, just a plugin which changes the names and stats of bows to make for a greater variety of playstyles.
Long Bows: Heavy and powerful, but also slow and loud. They have increased base damage but reduced critical damage. Perfect for that long range shot, and powerful enough to take out enemies once spotted. Great for the strong armored warriors.
Short Bows: Lighter, faster and silent, but with reduced base damage. Critical damage greatly increased for quick stealthy takedowns. Perfect for agile thieves/assassins.
There are two main versions: one requiring nothing else, and one for those who use Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes. Both main versions have Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch changes to bows merged in, though USSEP is not required to have.
There are also several patches available for custom weapons and quests mods. Though patches are not necessary, any mod which adds new bows would need to be patched to separate their new bows into the categories.
This mod should be compatible with nearly everything. Any mod that either adds new bows, or changes the stats of bows, needs to be patched.
Some of the popular weapon mods (Weapons of the Third Era SSE, Heavy Armory - New Weapons, and Skyrim SE Expanded Skyrim Weaponry) are compatible with this mod, as they do not add any new bows.
Patches available on the files page for: More Weapons Please SE, InsanitySorrow Weapons Pack, Lore Weapon Expansion SE, Helgen Reborn, Bruma, Unique Uniques, Immersive Weapons, Falskaar, AmidianBorn Book of Silence (Content Addon), Summermyst, Zim's Immersive Artifacts, Daedric Armor and Weapon Improvement, The Second Great War, Legendary Skyrim Crossbows and Bows SSE, and Armoury of Tamriel v2.0. A patch for the Anniversary Upgrade is also available.
Please Note: Patches for the weapons mods are required only if you want the new bows added by the mods changed into long/short bows. Unique Uniques is required if you use it to have Angi's Bow have the new texture and be changed into a short bow. Falskaar only adds one new bow, so the patch is optional unless you want it changed into a long bow. The Content Addon from AmidianBorn Book of Silence adds a Skyforge Steel Bow. There are two patches, whether you want the bow as a long or short bow
What this mod changes:
Long Bows:
Adds 4 base damage, 6 added to weight, cuts critical damage in half.
Speed: 0.6 on all long bows, 0.8 on the Zephyr
All long bows are Very Loud, enemies will detect when shooting bows close to them
Imperial, Orcish, Dwarven, Ebony, Daedric, Ancient Nord, Iron, Ancient Nord Supple, Nord Hero, Gauldur Blackbow, Froki's Bow, Drainspell Bow, Zephyr, Nordic, and Dwarven Black Bow of Fate
Short Bows:
Cuts base damage and weight in half, greatly increases critical damage (3->16, 4->18, 5->21, 6->24,7->26,8->28,9->30,10->32)
Speed: 1.2 on all short bows
All short bows are silent
Hunting Bow, Elven, Glass, Falmer, Dravin's Bow, Nightingale Bow, Bow of the Hunt, Angi's Bow, Forsworn, Karliah's Bow, Auriel's Bow, Dragonbone, Glass Bow of the Stag Prince, and Stalhrim
All arrows have been modified with reduced gravity and increased speed. Crossbows have been left untouched for now.
(I've uploaded a version that removes the edits to arrows, leaving them the same as vanilla)
Can be safely installed/uninstalled on current playthroughs. Your currently owned bows will change once installed, and will revert back when uninstalled.
ACE, SkyRE and Perkus Maximus are perk overhauls which also separated bows into two categories: long and short. However, they also changed much more than that, making compatibility between other mods a hassle.
Long N' Short Bows is basically a stripped down version of the Archery module of ACE, ending up with two distinctly different categories of bows, while being compatible with nearly every other mod. No scripts, just a plugin which changes the names and stats of bows to make for a greater variety of playstyles.
Long Bows: Heavy and powerful, but also slow and loud. They have increased base damage but reduced critical damage. Perfect for that long range shot, and powerful enough to take out enemies once spotted. Great for the strong armored warriors.
Short Bows: Lighter, faster and silent, but with reduced base damage. Critical damage greatly increased for quick stealthy takedowns. Perfect for agile thieves/assassins.
There are two main versions: one requiring nothing else, and one for those who use Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes. Both main versions have Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch changes to bows merged in, though USSEP is not required to have.
There are also several patches available for custom weapons and quests mods. Though patches are not necessary, any mod which adds new bows would need to be patched to separate their new bows into the categories.
This mod should be compatible with nearly everything. Any mod that either adds new bows, or changes the stats of bows, needs to be patched.
Some of the popular weapon mods (Weapons of the Third Era SSE, Heavy Armory - New Weapons, and Skyrim SE Expanded Skyrim Weaponry) are compatible with this mod, as they do not add any new bows.
Patches available on the files page for: More Weapons Please SE, InsanitySorrow Weapons Pack, Lore Weapon Expansion SE, Helgen Reborn, Bruma, Unique Uniques, Immersive Weapons, Falskaar, AmidianBorn Book of Silence (Content Addon), Summermyst, Zim's Immersive Artifacts, Daedric Armor and Weapon Improvement, The Second Great War, Legendary Skyrim Crossbows and Bows SSE, and Armoury of Tamriel v2.0. A patch for the Anniversary Upgrade is also available.
Please Note: Patches for the weapons mods are required only if you want the new bows added by the mods changed into long/short bows. Unique Uniques is required if you use it to have Angi's Bow have the new texture and be changed into a short bow. Falskaar only adds one new bow, so the patch is optional unless you want it changed into a long bow. The Content Addon from AmidianBorn Book of Silence adds a Skyforge Steel Bow. There are two patches, whether you want the bow as a long or short bow
What this mod changes:
Long Bows:
Adds 4 base damage, 6 added to weight, cuts critical damage in half.
Speed: 0.6 on all long bows, 0.8 on the Zephyr
All long bows are Very Loud, enemies will detect when shooting bows close to them
Imperial, Orcish, Dwarven, Ebony, Daedric, Ancient Nord, Iron, Ancient Nord Supple, Nord Hero, Gauldur Blackbow, Froki's Bow, Drainspell Bow, Zephyr, Nordic, and Dwarven Black Bow of Fate
Short Bows:
Cuts base damage and weight in half, greatly increases critical damage (3->16, 4->18, 5->21, 6->24,7->26,8->28,9->30,10->32)
Speed: 1.2 on all short bows
All short bows are silent
Hunting Bow, Elven, Glass, Falmer, Dravin's Bow, Nightingale Bow, Bow of the Hunt, Angi's Bow, Forsworn, Karliah's Bow, Auriel's Bow, Dragonbone, Glass Bow of the Stag Prince, and Stalhrim
All arrows have been modified with reduced gravity and increased speed. Crossbows have been left untouched for now.
(I've uploaded a version that removes the edits to arrows, leaving them the same as vanilla)
Can be safely installed/uninstalled on current playthroughs. Your currently owned bows will change once installed, and will revert back when uninstalled.