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Mind that it is an experimental release, and the SPID authors will be looking for feedback - both positive and constructive. If things work better, or if you have any problems, please let them know!
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I'm not even exactly sure this is the mod that causes the issue. Sometimes, I load the game with this mod enabled and it's fine. Sometimes (but more often than not), NPCs have invisible armor.
Tried SPID 7.2.0 (instead of the older one) with RMB 6.0.1 and so far it loads fine. 6.1.0 breaks it again.
Again, not sure if this mod is the definitive culprit. It's hard to pinpoint the issue when it's random, when it doesn't affect every save, when it sometimes affects a new game and sometimes not. But 6.1.0 definitely breaks the game for me.
What's also annoying is that I did disable it before, but the bug was still triggering (maybe not on all saves). Disabled a few mods, still did. Disabled this one and it started working. Very weird.
SkyPatcher can't (and doesn't try to) do what SPID does here - it is a very different tool with a different focus. Mind, I like to use it alongside SPID because it can be used to inject data in a way that doesn't require a bunch of different manual patches, but it doesn't (and can't) replace SPID. SkyPatcher is static data changes, similar to an ESP, whilst SPID is dynamic.
To give an example that is possible with SPID, but not SkyPatcher: I'm able to distribute the Guard Armor Replacer sets to guards in rural areas - villages, border guards, patrols. I then distribute Sons of Skyrim sets to urban areas - specifically cities. It does so dynamically, and works with anything and everything.
I can get into more detail if that is what you're looking for, but hopefully that answers your question!
• Sentinel is a great all-in-one suite by Thuldor3621 using just SkyPatcher
• Alternatively, my SPID mods for Realistic Armor, Vanilla Armor Replacer, Guard Armor Replacer, and Sons of Skyrim can achieve a similar experience in modular way, with some extra stuff like regional guard outfits, and some additional diversity. However, my mods are currently lacking leveled list integration, so you won't find the items in dungeons
• Fashions of the Fourth Era SPID patch by Hishigami, which is based off Common Clothes and Armors but with additional sets - or my patch for Common Clothes and Armors, which has less diversity but is more simple in approach. Either adds clothing diversity to NPCs
• Sforzinda Imitations Stripped also adds extra clothes and armours, and works with FotFE or CCaA, adding even more clothing diversity
You can also check the "Requirements" tab on this page for a list of mods made by myself and others relying on this framework - may find various mods to your liking!
Could you help me, please? Am I installing the mod correctly, or am I doing something wrong? My last load order was:
SKYPATCHER and all its dependencies
"[RMB SPID] Core"
"RMB SPIDified - Regional Keyword Framework"
"Sons of Skyrim"
"Sons of [A site we've had to banlist because they continue to spam mod authors with advertising links]"
"Legacy of Ysgramor"
"Legacy of Ysgramor FORGE"
"[RMB SPIDified] Realistic Armor"
"Realistic Armor"
"[RMB SPIDified] Vanilla Armour Replacer"
"NordWarUA's Vanilla Armor Replacers SSE"
"[RMB SPIDified] Guard Armor Replacer"
"Guards Armor Replacer SSE"
"RMB SPIDified and Eslified Unplayable Faction Armors"
"Unplayable Faction Armors SSE"
"[RMB SPIDified] New Legion"
"New Legion"
"New Legion HD"
"[RMB SPIDified] Misc Config Patches"
So, load order shouldn't matter (the order of ESP files), but If what you've put above is the install order, then that will be the culprit - RMB SPIDified mods must be installed after their dependent mods, so that they overwrite the files provided in the original mods successfully.
- "Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes"
- "Complete Crafting Overhaul Remastered"
- "RUSTIC CLOTHING - Special Edition"
- "Armor and Clothing Extension"
- "Armor and Clothing Extension SPID"
- "Sons of Skyrim"
- "Sons of [A site we've had to banlist because they continue to spam mod authors with advertising links]"
- "Legacy of Ysgramor"
- "Legacy of Ysgramor FORGE"
- "Realistic Armor"
- "NordWarUA's Vanilla Armor Replacers SSE"
- "Guards Armor Replacer SSE"
- "Unplayable Faction Armors SSE"
- "New Legion"
- "New Legion HD"
- "[RMB SPID] Core"
- "RMB SPIDified - Regional Keyword Framework"
- "[RMB SPIDified] Realistic Armor"
- "[RMB SPIDified] Vanilla Armour Replacer"
- "[RMB SPIDified] Guard Armor Replacer"
- "RMB SPIDified and Eslified Unplayable Faction Armors"
- "[RMB SPIDified] New Legion"
- "[RMB SPIDified] Misc Config Patches"
But I’m still seeing bandits and NPCs with vanilla armor, so I don’t know if the mod is installed correctly.
Are you seeing any distribution at all?
Regarding outfits, I can see the distribution working for guards, Imperials, and other factions like Stendarr, but many bandits are still using vanilla armor, especially Orcs and some others. I’ve also noticed a few NPCs still wearing vanilla armor.
However, as I mentioned before, I’m not sure if this is due to NordwarUA’s mod itself. When I disable all RMB mods, NordwarUA’s main file works fine, replacing all vanilla items, but without any logical distribution for their outfits.
Edit: Actually, this might be intentional on your part - so disregard.
As for Bandits, depending on which option you picked the distribution chances might be low - which option did you select?
As for RA, are you using any mods that modify or overhaul bandits, such as OBIS?
Would you be up for following the Keywords section of this article? This bandits are having issues, would like to see what keywords they are (or aren't) getting.
OBIS wise, I see the OBIS bandit is missing an outfit keyword - digging into that mod in particular, it looks like they use a lot of custom outfits, which do consist of vanilla items. I could replace those outfits outright, but it would result in a loss of uniqueness brought upon by OBIS - for example, some of them have "BanditArmorCloakOutfit" which is basically a standard bandit outfit, but with a Fire/Frost/Shock ring.
I have been trying to get VAR and RA to distribute to Rogues and Raiders, with very slow success, is there any chance to get more official support for it?
I managed to get it mostly working after many tries by following existing examples, but somehow some npcs despite having the keywords just don't get the outfits given to them, but at a 1 in 10 ratio I took my partial W and happily went to sleep because I learned something new.
I am running into an issue where Reanimation spells causes the zombie to unequip all their SPID-added armor. Not sure if this happens in vanilla too but I am using Mysticism magic mod which makes all Reanimate spells act like Dead Thrall (can trade gear with zombies).
This appears to be happening to all SPID-added armors except capes which still get equipped. So far, I have tested on Fashions of the Banditry/Huntsmen/Fourth Era/the Legion mods. This is on the latest SPID 7.20RC.
Screenshot of inventory and zombie
SkyPatcher-added equipment are unaffected.
Keyword screenshots for reference:
https://i.imgur.com/i0Zq7K8.png
https://i.imgur.com/fbMKC5L.png
This is happening because 0x81F is inheriting from DA02Champion "Champion of Boethiah" [NPC_:000834FE], which inherits from LvlForswornBoss [NPC_:000442D2], which inherits from...
Basically, the keyword is being passed down the tree. If it still occurs with SPID 7.2.0RC11, I will likely have to adjust how those keywords are distributed to avoid cases like this.
I'm using several of your armor SPID mods (Fashions of the Banditry, Steels Fashions, Forsworn Fasions, Hinterland Ranger, Practical Pirate, Toughened Traveler, and Rugged Rogue). All of these (except Forsworn) have outfits applied to isBanditClass. Marksman-style bandits are successfully getting ActorClassSubTypeMarksman keyword in game, and ActorWeaponTypeBow. For whatever reason, melee bandits are not getting the ActorClassMelee keyword, thus they are not getting ActorWeaponTypeOneHanded or ActorWeaponTypeTwoHanded, and thus the armor SPID mods are not applying to them because those weapon keywords are missing. As far as I can tell, the formID for melee bandit class hasnt changed, etc. Kinda stumped on what is happening here, since some class and weapon keywords ARE working. The Forsworn Fashions SPIDs are also working.
Wider support is added natively to some mods (Lawless, Requiem, Madmen), but it does sound like I need to adjust how this is handled.
What's weird is I had everything working before several weeks in my modlist before I made some changes. The only thing touching 0x1CE17 (and 0x15BE7, the ranged version) besides skyrim.esm is my releveler.esp, and that's simply changing the attribute weights (I believe this is from NPC Stat Rescaler). The records otherwise are not changed.
Some mods also introduce custom classes, and re-assign NPCs to those new classes.
If you load up your entire load order in xEdit, a couple of things to check:
- Search for: 0001CE17
How many references does it have? In vanilla, it should be 390.
- Search for: 0001BCD8
This is an example bandit NPC. Are any mods editing it? What records are they changing?
Beyond that, if you temporarily roll back to SPID 6.8.2, do you see the keyword distribution? I'll have to do some checking myself, but maybe something isn't right with 7.2.0RC11 with keyword distribution based on classes, in which case that would be a bug that needs to be reported.
For the 0001BCD8 nord melee bandit, I just have a merged NPC appearances esp and the releveler esp. The first is just tweaking head parts and stuff. The second one does notably change the default outfit from 000C0197 to a new one that I believe is provided by Sentinel through Skypatcher.
I checked 6.8.2. Keywords still showing up on bandits like they were in 7.2.0. So no difference in behavior for me.
Here's the line that generates the new TUS classes, for your reference https://github.com/ReaperAnon/True-Unleveled-Skyrim/blob/84983d7dc57e7bc3685dba358d0ed680f17c7e0d/TrueUnleveledSkyrim/Patch/NPCs.cs#L881
Look forward to seeing what solution you come up with.