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There's posts about other people trying to describe this issue and they get a lot of really confusing and vague answers that seem to imply this behavior is intended and there's some kind of 'slow level gain' going on for more than just skill/attribute exp. This doesn't seem right to me since none of the mod documentation references this as a feature and there's no settings to configure the speed of player levelup. I've seen the skill percentage tick over from 90% to 0% with the player level remaining at 1.
Is it the intended behavior for the player level to increase with every 10 class skills no matter what? If not, what are the criteria for the actual level calculation? Is it something to do with the difficulty slider? That's the only thing I can think of having changed along with this change in behavior from the mod. I had the slider at an easier setting for the character that was leveling correctly.
I've checked my openmw logs and configs, and the scripts seem to be loading and running correctly without errors. Everything was installed and configured with the Expanded Vanilla modlist from modding-openmw.
The slow growth options are either for slower skill or attribute increases, but the player level calculation is not impacted.
How is your player level progress percent in the stats menu?
Did you install mods that are not in the MOMW list?
You could try the reset procedure described in the doc.
Otherwise, please open a bug here and attach a game save.
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Bribing doesn't even give me any progress in this attribute.
Thanks for your answer :)
Also, while I am leveling up the tracker that shows how many points I need to get to level up seems to be stuck at 0.
The vanilla 0/10 counter will always stay at 0, NCGDMW does a hack to handle itself the levels up. Use NCGDMW's stats menu to see your progression.
What's wrong with the new approach?
If your issue is not enough XP for spell casting in general, then you can increase the base gain for spell casting in the settings, section "SKILL USES GAINS SETTINGS".
The new approach consider a spell as good if it's not too easy to cast for you, at the current time.
Casting good spells will make you progress faster, until they are not good enough (too easy to cast), and you'll have to try more powerful spells, if you want to keep your evolving pace.
The old approach is similar but static: Only spells above a specific cost are considered as good.
While the new approach will consider a 20 magicka cost spell as good if your skill is low.
The idea of the new approach is not to force you to use low cast chance spells.
It's rather about using spells that match you current skills.
>The idea of the new approach is not to force you to use low cast chance spells.
>It's rather about using spells that match you current skills.
Adding MBSP back in would be amazing. I feel like a major downside to the new approach is that it feels as though players are being shafted for using stuff like Recall/Divine/Almsivi chains, which can easily be relevant and immersive at all stages of the game, and as you get into the later game, having the skill xp for these skills reduced to 0% just feels...shitty.
Do you have any error in the log viewer? (F10)
Can you see NCGDMW's setting page?
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The 0/10 progress is normal with NCGDMW as the mod handles the progress itself.
If you show the stats menu, is there any progress in the player level?
OpenWM 0.49 and NGCDMW v4.3.1
Not sure what's going on here, but when entering training in which a Minor skill should be limited by a Major Skill, upon exiting the training window after the "skill limited" dialogue appears the skill is boosted to the level of the greatest Major Skill.
Ex.
Athletics -- Major Skill -- 55
Short Blade -- Major Skill -- 36
Speechcraft -- Minor Skill -- 36
Upon entering training window with a Speechcraft trainer I see the "Speechcraft training limited by major skills" dialogue. Makes sense.
Upon leaving training window, Speechcraft is now 55. No indications that the skill has been raised in dialogue.
Disabling the secondary training cap gets rid of the issue.
It's a recent compatibility issue with Better Merchants Skills 2.0.
It should be fixed in 4.3.2
The amount of configuration is commendable. Would recommend, I feel anyone can get this mod setup how they want it.