78 comments

  1. krrptd
    krrptd
    • premium
    • 59 kudos
    Locked
    Sticky
    Please report bugs in the Bugs section. You can also find me on the FROST discord.

    Also, if you think a patch is needed for something, let me know.

    > Please make sure this mod is loaded absolutely last!
    > FCF does the same as PRP, so don't use them together!
    > And please, don't use the old " FROST - Unofficial Boston FPS Fix" either. It does revert FROST's changes, and is superseded by FCF!
  2. krrptd
    krrptd
    • premium
    • 59 kudos
    Locked
    Sticky
    BUG REPORTS
    Before reporting a bug in the Bugs section, please do your due diligence first. Make sure your issue is not due to user error, or another mod. Bug section is for FCF bugs only. This will save us both time troubleshooting! Not sure? Post here in comments first.

    Known bugs: none.
  3. krrptd
    krrptd
    • premium
    • 59 kudos
    Locked
    Sticky
    From FROST Official Updates (Redux):
    Note about the "Next Gen" Update (Read this please!)

    FROST only works properly with the downgraded version of Fallout 4, for the following reasons:

    • Many mod authors who made F4SE mods decided to only provide support for the downgraded versions
    • The Next Gen version of Fallout 4 has severe bugs, including FPS issues if mods are used that edit many NPCs. FROST edits many NPCs.
    • The general consensus among the modding community is that the downgraded version has the best compatibility with many essential mods
    • Many mod authors can not upgrade their F4SE mods properly due to engine level changes

    This is a very simple explanation, it might lack some nuance, I don't want to post a wall of text here.
  4. DeadKingsIV
    DeadKingsIV
    • member
    • 0 kudos

    So I got to say having to download winter redone which is a 4gb mod just to use compatibility patches  for ultra int/ext lighting is kind of dumb why is that like that now?  Or am I just missing something.
    1. krrptd
      krrptd
      • premium
      • 59 kudos
      Just go through the steps of the fomod installer and read carefully. There are separate lighting patches for Winter Redone; simply don't select these.
  5. ragzor87
    ragzor87
    • member
    • 0 kudos
    hi.  Please load the following plugins at the END of your load order, and read the sorting rules from above again VERY carefully.FCF_Main.esp   from below zero. is this correct?
    *LongerStealthboys.esp*Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp*HUDFramework.esm*BusStopLighting.esl*FO76AmmoCrafting.esl*dppsychoandmedx.esl*LF-NS.esp*Q_FloraFungusExpansion.esp*SSTGlowingSeaDelit.esl*SSTClearHorizons.esl*StarlightDriveInAndDiner - ROOFTRIMSIGNONLY.esl*HCKWorkbenchWhistle.esl*PAHeavyImpact.esl*Iron Sights Aim Zoom (ESL).esl*HCKTerminalHack.esl*CWBrotherhoodOutfits.esl*rippermoredmg.esl*Wana_ScrewdriverReplacer.esl*Lootablepipboy.esl*SSTMinutemanWatchtowers.esl*EffortlessMovementControl.esl*Reptilic_DeathClaws_4K.esl*DocsoftheCW.esl*RiversideSettlement.esl*dpjetandxcell.esl*Dogs can grab player.esl*NewWalls.eslSKKPlaceableMapMarks.esl*Lucid's Texture Upgrades.esl*Retex_Skeletons.esl*Minigun Enhanced.esl*ClassicMeleePack.esl*ClassicUnarmedPack.esl*DrGoodneighbor.esl*SavrenXBetterRobotHDLibertyPrime.esp*WeaponsHD.esp*Robot_Textures_Redone.esp*ProjectDementia.esp*interiors.esp*MM Shelter.esp*FlaconOil_BA2_2K_Part1.esp*Fallout3StyleVaults.esp*ValiusHDTextures2K.esp*MM Brotherhood.esp*Authors Vehicle picks Left To Rot.esp*It has been a long 2k road.esp*FlaconOil_BA2_2K_Part2.esp*UIF Faction Mod.esp*LibertaliasReign.esp*UltraInteriorLighting.esp*RynsFallout4.esp*Vault81 Clean up Project.esp*AnimatronicApocalypse.esp*OCsSunkenGarage.esp*Cutlasspost.esp*BetterBostonAirport.esp*Diamond In The Rough11.esp*GoodneighborExpanded.esp*TrappersInCommonwealth.esp*CERA_JTF_Collection.esp*Raider Children.esp*PAC - Project Apocalyptic Commonwealth.esp*Mod01Vault201.esp*i73fi-scavengers.esp*SKKRedRocketWorkshopsFaction.esp*biggergoodneighbor.esp*PumpeSpawnPoints.esp*NA-FortAbernathy.esp*DiamondCity SchoolHouse.esp*AccessibleBridges.esp*CRP Nuclear Commision.esp*random stuff.esp*DiamondCityPlus.esp*Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp*strongerRobotsSynthsTurrets.esp*jsrs.esp*DiamondNewVendors.esp*Youth of the Commonwealth.esp*DCEnhancedSecurity.esp*RADS.esp*GhoulBlood.esp*Glowing Animals Emit Light - Ghouls Only.esp*WorthlessMod.esp*DutchOutpost.esp*V.I.L-Abomination.esp*Pulowski Shelter Save Point.esp*RedWaveReloaded.esp*Enhanced Wasteland.esp*GlowingVault.esp*Immersive Fallout (DLC).esp*FlamerOverhaul.esp*DiamondCityAmbience.esp*ProtectronPodOverhaulWithLights.esp*Ghoul_Mobs_Rule_sp0ckrates.esp*c6k-junk-scrap-qty.esp*dsos sensible barbell scrap lead.esp*FalltoxinAddonFoodBaseGame.esp*Caffeinated Sugar Bombs.esp*Falltoxin.esp*alcoholshelf.esp*viciousdogs.esp*TheDogsperience.esp*More Radstags - Triple.esp*Forced Evolution.esp*Forced Evolution - noRocket noRat Patch.esp*CutlassPRE.esp*Harbor City Commonwealth.esp*Ceft_Main.esp*OpenLexington.esp*OpenMalden.esp*OpenEastBoston.esp*Forced Evolution - noRocket Patch.esp*Q_LightFixes.esp*UniqueRaiderPatrols1.esp*CRP Ration Site.esp*CriticalFX.esp*NDLBarns.esp*SunFlare.esp*UCW - Unified Commonwealth Weather.esp4estGimp - CR-DCAmbience_DCExpansion.esp*Immersive Explosions.esp*a123 Living Coastal Cottage.esp*JSRS_Regions.esp*TheCommonwealthCamper.esp*3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp*Flashy_Infestations.esp*PACER.esp*Compact - Vault81.esp*ARTICHOKE.esp*DiamondCityMoreSecurity.esp*ChildShaunCompanion.esp*Alphacompanionpack.esp*kudemborotmantis.esp*Rsiyo'sLocationPack.esp*Dead Bodies Plus (Vanilla replacement) 2.0.esp*AkaInvisibleFurniture.esp*Nightmare_Raiders.esp*VaultTecConcord.esp*Fogcrawlersnew.esp*LimaOutpost.esp*The Metro.esp*HERA.esp*Concord Personified.espMREs.esp*yall got bones in ya s#*! then.esp*CoS.esp*BedfordDepot.esp*HerbalRebalance.esp*FOLON-StandaloneReleaser.esp*BrotherhoodEyebots.esp*BOS_overhaul.esp*lexingtonlabs.esp*Heavy BoS.esp*NeighborWatch.esp*The_Radiant_unmodded.esp*Radio_Olivia_Overnight.esp*SBP_SentryBotParts_InTheWorld.esp*RM_Mannequin_Raiders.esp*MobiusModding_LegatePA.esp*Extended Diamond City Security Dialogue.esp*BosskCompanion.esp*JoeyVendor.esp*DiamondCityRanch.esp*Complaint of the commonwealth.esp*OCsSunkenGarageCoASettlers.esp*Throwables Sounds FX.esp*GuardWall.esp*Rubble Debris.esp*NMC Bundle HIGH.esp*Not so RedRocket 2k retexture - It has been a long time.esp*GR012-UniqueScavsSherpaBackpack.esp*LC's UHD Mirelurk King.esp*DWR-DrinkableWaterRetexture.esp*Halffaces_Book_Stacks.esp*Machinery seen some shit.espBosskBountyHunter.esp*Zapgun.esp*NPCUseRailings.esp*Q_Weather_RadStormOld.esp*Foggy Radioactive Weather.esp*MiscMeleePack.esp*StrongerSentryBot.esp*MoreRobotParts.esp*Squawkbox Radio.esp*DocDrumlin.esp*SimplyLouderGuns1.5.esp*Louder player hit sounds.esp*DestructibleMiniNukes.esp*Mr. Handy Fuel to Propane - More Oil.esp*LongerRangeProjectiles.esp*JSRS_Fallout4.esp*Laser Turret RoF.esp*2k Barrier Vanilla style.esp*GhoulsCombatDogs_NoLvl.esp*Survival No Encumbrance Dmg.esp*RequestTimeRadiomasson.esp*BorderJunk.esp*Elzee_idroid.esp*dcc-cvrie.esp*Higher Voice For Curie - Type A4.esp*AttachPack.esp*Brighter Wasteland Workshop Lights.esp*TrueBlood.esp*Less_Intense_Speculars_TrueBlood.esp*moreoiladdedweight.esp*SawLauncher.esp*Automatron For All (Rare Spawn).esp*Hardcore Deadly Fog.esp*Rest In Rot Skeleton.esp*76 Diseases.esp*QuantumSoundwavesRadio.esp*No Audiofilters on the Radio 0.4.esp*pipegun_CrudeSuppressor.esp*Campsite.esp*Legion BoS PA replacer.esp*ModdableGrenades.esp*OndreaPaintings.esp*AutoMines.esp*detailedferalghouls2K.esp*Super_Blade_1.1.esp*NewHampshireLizardCreature.esp*MoreRust-RustyRocket.esp*PaStation2k.esp*2k Motorcycle Retexture.esp*Assaultron Grab Skills.esp*Elzee Recoil Shake.esp*FlaconOil_BA2_2K_Part3.esp*Missile Knockdown Damage x1.esp*ClassicRadPoison.esp*NoPARagdoll.esp*Better Rugs.esp*MeatierLimbExplosions.esp*NightTimeGodRaysAllinOne.esp*UltimateLockpick.esp*Elzee Dynamic Timescale.esp*Kids Can Die.esp*No Combat Music.esp*Fallout Suite.esp*WoodReduxHD.esp*WoodReduxHD-BFTDTC-Patch.esp*OctaviusSentibar_Labels.esp*OWCaD.esp*QuazRadioModelReplacer.esp*NaiRaeCozyScavver.esp*Grenade Timer Overhaul.esp*Bastion.esp*Frame Job.esp*WoodReduxHD-InvertedTile-OptionalPatch.esp*SP4 MOVE SPEED IN WATER 50 20.esp*RB_SynthkindRedefined.esp*Housekeeping.esp*AddictionMedicine.esp*Desolation Infection Rebalance.esp*LongerDiseaseRecovery100hours..esp*Faster Deathclaws.espLongerHeadlampLightWithShadows2x.esp*The Junkyard.esp*GrafsSecurityFencesNoMenu.esp*BlockedAttacksDealDamage.esp*shotgun ballistics.esp*Chemfluence AI Combat Dynamics.esp*SCM.esp*ClassicGhoulRace2022.esp*Oxidized alumin(i)um bird.esp*HideUI.esp*Transit Sign HD.esp*LC's UHD Radroach.esp*LC's UHD Skeleton Wardrobe.esp*LC's UHD Brahmin Skull.esp*LC's UHD Kirby Head Statue.esp*EmergencyLightImproved.esp*Weapons.esp*Seen some 2k s#*! - Pulowski Shelter.esp*Oppressor's Metal Barrel.esp*Synth Combine Voice Modulator.esp*Simple Bird Remover - AmbSounds.esp*Muzzle Flashy.esp*ghoulish01.esp*Frenzy Ghouls.esp*MoreDeadBodies.esp*RAW INPUT.esp*Lasers Have No Recoil.esp*3dscopes-replacer.esp*SimpleSlowerDeathAnimations.esp*More Active AI.esp*LC's UHD Feral Ghoul Apparel.esp*VeryZen_DarkCaves.esp*Elzee Jolly Item Sounds.esp*VariousJunk.esp*Lunchboxes - less junk, more food.esp*K9TacticalHarness.esp*CookingOilExpensive.esp*Craftable Vault 81 Cure (Earned).espSKKPlaceableMapMarks.esp*woodysWastelandStuff.esp*Crimsomrider's Unique Furniture.esp*QuickSwap.esp*ExplosiveBarrelsMedium.esp*IXC_Glowmarker.esp*LC's UHD Deathclaw.esp*TU3SD4Y'S Fallout 76 Survival Tent.esp*PulseExplosionMod.esp*ImprovedPulsesGrenadesMines.esp*AmbientTunnels.esp*flamerproject2k.esp*Pity Party.esp*Elzee Cough.esp*Disable Enemy Killmove.esp*BoneMeal.esp*HelmetToggle.esp*no crafting xp.esp*AVBHandmadeHazmat.esp*More Fortifications.esp*FullFusion.esp*AidanWatts3dAssets.esp*DeadlyHazardsTraps.esp*Gritty Subway Stations.esp*Prisoner Shackles.esp*ReadNotes.esp*ImprovedNuke.esp*Sentry and Utility Shadows.esp*VATSNowImmersive.esp*GhoulishGhouls.esp*JSRS_NukaWorld.esp*JSRS_FarHarbor.esp*LongRangeBulletHoles.esp*NightOfTheCreeps.espLongerHeadlampLight2x.espMG42.esp*CarExplosions.esp*Search and Destroy.esp*Vault 81 - Named Residents.esp*Blasted Billboards.esp*GAME.esp*No More Fake Puddles - Nuka World 1-0.esp*SpotlightFix-250.esp*FRAGGED.esp*whiskey_charisma_boost.esp*4xFusionCore.esp*Censor_Comments.esp*Stronger pulse explosions.esp*Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp*roadflare.esp*LureEnemies.esp*CK-CutAddictionsRestored.esp*Realistic melee range.esp*RadGone.esp*PerformanceImproverMolotov.esp*Vault 81 - Buy Guard Armor.esp*Vault81SunshineDinerVariety.esp*Journal.esp*ActionPack.esp*Upgradeable Vault Suit.esp*ExpiredStimpaks.esp*2k Turrets - Seen some shit.esp*Experimental Vertibirds.esp*VertibirdLaser.esp*Computer Console illuminated.esp*WoodCrate 2k - It has been a long time.esp*SimpleAttackReactions.esp*Less Hostile Raider Children.espDiamondCityfacefix.esp*WET.esp*Gas Masks of the Wasteland.esp*FROST.esp*RedsFrostFixes.esp*aFrostMod.esp*FROST - UFO4P Patch.esp*vTZv_Fungal_Workshop_Frost.esp*FROST_NoLeapingFerals.espFROST - ELO Patch.esp*FROST Downtown Workbenches.esp*shep frost downtown rooms.esp*FROST Monohome_NoRadio.esp*RedsFrostCampsitePatch.esp*Frost Zap Gun Patch.esp*FROST_MiscMeleePack.esp*Friendly Remnants.esp*FROST-nosurfacerads.esp*Frost - Vanilla trigger time for mines.esp*FROST - It Snowed.esp*RedsFrostExplosionEffects.esp*FROST - GMOW Patch.esp*FROST - JSRS Patch.esp*FROST - GMOW Patch - JSRS.esp*FO76 Ammo Crafting Frost Patch.esp*RedsFrostNukaWorldSnow.esp*FROST_NoECZNReset.esp*RedsFrostSCM.esp*RedsFrostBlurRemoval.esp*FROST - LootableCars.esp*FROST - SuperMutantLocations.esp*FROST - AccessibleArcJet.esp*MM Watchtowers FROSTified.esp*FROST - AccessibleFortHagen.esp*Patch - FROST & STS.esp*FROST_LLCars_Scarcity.esp*FROST - AccessibleMedTekResearch.esp*FROST - AccessibleFortStrong.esp*FROST - Mauser.esp*FROST - Mauser_308CAL.esp*FCF_Main.esp*FCF_Previsibines.esp*FCF_Previsibines-JSRSRegions.esp*PLI_USAF_Satellite_Station_Olivia.esp*FCF_Previsibines-MFG.esp*Wasteland Water Revival - Toxic Sludge.esp*PLI_USAF_Olivia FROSTified.esp
    1. krrptd
      krrptd
      • premium
      • 59 kudos
      Hi,

      a) Do you think anyone is able to decipher a load order from this garbled mess? Use some formatting at least, but even better: upload loadorder.txt somewhere and link to it.
      b) There's an automatic load order checker in the Below Zero guide. But that one will freak out probably, because of c)
      c) Only a brief scan of the wall of text tells enough: lots of incompatible and non-sensical mods (there's no BoS, Vault 81, Diamond City, etc in FROST). Please read the descriptions and articles on the Nexus pages of FROST and FROST Official Updates to understand the setting of FROST.

      But yes, FCF should be loaded last, at the end of the load order, with a few exceptions as mentionned in the description.
    2. ragzor87
      ragzor87
      • member
      • 0 kudos
      thx 😅
  6. AedDrust
    AedDrust
    • member
    • 0 kudos
    Hi, I've been trying to set up Frost but I'm having issues with the Frost Cell Fixes patch. It along with the UFO4 patch cause my game to ctd on startup. Everything is right in the load order and I'm downgraded. I decided to start over and us Wabbajack but Wabbajack is running into errors when downloading Frost Cell Fixes and only it. Am I using an outdated one? I tried following the guide to a T but I can't figure out what's going wrong. Any help would be appreciated.
    1. krrptd
      krrptd
      • premium
      • 59 kudos
      FCF shouldn't cause your game to crash. Unless you maybe installed the wrong version of UFO4P (you need 2.1.5).
      I can not comment of any Wabbajack lists, or their version control. You should ask the curator. The two FROST WJ I am aware of, are indeed outdated. We are not involved in any WJ or Nexus Collection, so we don't endorse them.
      Share your crash log for better understanding of your issue, and/or join the discord (see link in sticky) to open a ticket. The community there might help you faster than I can currently.
    2. AedDrust
      AedDrust
      • member
      • 0 kudos
      Thank you, so I fixed the FCF and UFO4 situation and they were not the issue as you said. However, I'm still having issues with starting up Frost. The game will not start at all when file extensions are enabled, but it will when they are off, but then I get the issue of an infinite loading screen. I realize this isn't the place for discussing that so if I need to I'll make a discord and ask the folks there about it. Either way, thanks again!

      Here is the crash log-
      [2024-09-08 00:42:17.979 I] starting Mod Organizer version 2.4.4 revision 1df1ea5e in C:/Modding/MO2, usvfs: 0.5.6.0[2024-09-08 00:42:17.979 I] data path: C:/Modding/MO2[2024-09-08 00:42:17.979 I] working directory: C:/Modding/MO2[2024-09-08 00:42:18.090 W] the game is in Program Files; this may cause issues because it's a special system folder[2024-09-08 00:42:18.090 I] using game plugin 'Fallout 4' ('Fallout4', variant (none), steam id '377160') at C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/Fallout 4[2024-09-08 00:42:18.541 I] update available: 2.4.4 -> 2.5.2[2024-09-08 00:42:28.192 E] wrong file format - expected FO4_SAVEGAME got [2024-09-08 00:42:28.199 E] wrong file format - expected FO4_SAVEGAME got 

      I see that the game is still in program files. I thought I'd moved it but apparently, I don't know how. I'll do some learning and edit this post as it works for anyone having future issues.
  7. CheekiBreekiJr
    CheekiBreekiJr
    • member
    • 2 kudos
    Hello i am new to modding,so please kindly bear with me. I don't know if this been asked before,can this mod be installed without installing frost survival? i want play vanilla game with cell fixes.
    1. krrptd
      krrptd
      • premium
      • 59 kudos
      This fixes FROST, so yeah, kind of pointless without FROST... You need PRP instead, for vanilla.
    2. CheekiBreekiJr
      CheekiBreekiJr
      • member
      • 2 kudos
      Thank you for the speedy reply. Upon thinking for a long time, i finally decided to play frost survival anyway. So problem solved :)
    3. krrptd
      krrptd
      • premium
      • 59 kudos
      Even better :)
      Hop on the FROST discord if you need any help, have questions, or want to hang out with FROST veterans to share experiences.
      For the proper FROST experience, you can use the Below Zero guide to setup your game.
  8. ericnmmac
    ericnmmac
    • premium
    • 0 kudos
    2024, are PRP and FCF still cant work together? i mean its good if FCF or PRP can help each other on some cells that maybe ignored by author during massive editing of the landscape.
    1. krrptd
      krrptd
      • premium
      • 59 kudos
      FCF does exactly the same as PRP, but with FROST in mind. See FCF as PRP + FROST specific fixes, and even more. So FCF includes PRP as well. FCF covers ALL cells, from base game, DLCs, FROST, FROST Official Updates, and FROST Plus.
    2. ericnmmac
      ericnmmac
      • premium
      • 0 kudos
      How can I miss this mod, I’m going to install this instead of PRP next time I do a clean modding. Thanks
    3. krrptd
      krrptd
      • premium
      • 59 kudos
      For a proper FROST setup, I'd advise you to follow the official guide: Below Zero - A FROST Survival Simulator Modding Guide
  9. jirka607
    jirka607
    • premium
    • 1 kudos
    Nevermind
  10. Nikolay8330
    Nikolay8330
    • member
    • 0 kudos
    Thank you so much for your work!!!!
  11. jpstreun
    jpstreun
    • member
    • 0 kudos
    One more question, will fcf + winter redone + winter commonwealth pines work OK together? Thanks for all your work.
    1. krrptd
      krrptd
      • premium
      • 59 kudos
      Yes, that works. Load CWP after Winter Redone, but before FCF.
  12. jpstreun
    jpstreun
    • member
    • 0 kudos
    When installing uil and winter redone with uil, should I use both patches in the installer or just uil with winter redone?
    1. krrptd
      krrptd
      • premium
      • 59 kudos
      Both; since Winter Redone does not modify all cells. Those are plugin replacers, so your load order won't be cluttered with a whole series of patches.
      Only exception is ELFX: that one should be skipped in favor of the Winter Redone version.
  13. fallout3123
    fallout3123
    • premium
    • 2 kudos
    is this compatible with the old version of fallout 4 still?
    1. krrptd
      krrptd
      • premium
      • 59 kudos
      I guess you didn't read the sticky right above your post?
      But yes, only compatible with v1.10.163.0.