The changes are summarized in the newest file description, but for a full list of changes (contains minor spoilers):
Fixed the bug with Tenpenny Tower and its quest error, as well as changes to Sharlene Dogwood's optional objective and spawn-in (see below).
Edited the section of the quest with Disori's terminal to provide more clarity on where to go and what to do in the Capitol Building; also made it possible to hack via a Very Hard lock instead of searching for the password.
Fixed more floor/wall seams in interiors and made other minor adjustments for immersion.
Added a new path for dealing with Initiate Rahab. Knight Malachi was previously intended to be found dead, but this opened up a potential sequence break if one searched his body before talking to Rahab. Malachi is now alive and has brief dialogue options to get the key from him.
New rewards have been added for leaving the mercenaries and not taking the gold, including a weapon and perk.
Added lights near several important items (Disori's paper note, the password reset holotape, and the FBI keycard) to help guide the player.
A new dialogue option is available for dealing with Horatio, with the Robotics Expert perk.
Provided new voiceover for several characters.
Other minor changes to text in the mod.
What's up with Tenpenny Tower?
This mod previously contained a pretty severe bug that could break the Tenpenny Tower sidequest if other mods that affected its script (such as the Unofficial Patch) were used. It should be fixed with the newest version, and has been playtested as working again, but let me know if you encounter any issues. Essentially, there used to be a bad edit to the Tenpenny Tower quest script, in order to accomplish an effect that has since been resolved using other changes. Sharlene Dogwood now only spawns after the No Such quest is started, and is disabled after "part one." She does not spawn at all if the ghouls have already moved in, and her optional objective is automatically failed. This means that it is highly recommended to do her optional objective while "part one" is active (before going into the FBI building) and to do this quest separate from Tenpenny Tower, not concurrently; however, this is just for immersion's sake and there should be no softlocking issues with the Tenpenny Tower quest from this mod anymore.
Is a TTW version coming?
Yes (actually this time). I've chosen to release this update for the F3 version first to ensure it is in a good state to be ported over to TTW, including confirmation that the Tenpenny Tower bug is fixed. I have been in contact with another NexusMods user to make this port happen. Still TBA on a release timeframe, however.
Is the (Cleaned) version of this mod necessary?
User vegasstephen released a cleaned version of the mod's esp, which I was very thankful for at a time I was pretty busy and couldn't tend to maintaining the mod. I believe the necessary changes to clean the mod have been implemented with 2.0, and thus it should no longer be necessary to use that version. However, if there are any issues still present, please let me know.
For those interested, I am currently in the process of updating and revamping this mod to fix bugs (including the Tenpenny Tower issue) and improving some areas of the quest. This will be released as version 2.0 in the near future.
I had a hard time completing this quest - I could not locate the password to the terminal in the capitol building, and had to use youtube (if there was a hint anywhere for its location, please tell me).
When navigating through the FBI building, I had to cheat my way through multiple doors, as the keys collected from the dead BOS member did not work. The building was searched multiple times for alternatives, before I just gave up. (I used youtube again, and went back to where the sub-level key card were supposed to be - it was not there.)
Literally failing the quest as part of the quest is just not my cup of tea, but that's my personal opinion being mixed in here.
When completing the 2nd part, it surprised me that there is no way to end the quest peacefully, even with 100k caps in my inventory. Every possible ending was hostile, even after completing the extremely difficult speech check when speaking with the mercenary with nice hair.
I also have my suspicions that this mod broke the quest "Tenpenny Towers" as I could not advance the quest after assassinating the ghoul and his crew. Setting the mod to load before and after had no effect.
Early 2023, very decent quest which only proves - quality over quantity in this regard. Nice twist, sometimes very good voice acting (my favourite is female brotherhood of steel initiate, she really did a good job of providing this BoS vibe of speech and, of course, "ghoul character"), sometimes very nice audiologs that I can only describe as a work of fan passion. I should also mention that author tried to implement variable dialog choices to solve some problems and it was good every time. As for the quick overview, if Bethesda going to made something like Skyrim but Fallout 3 Anniversary Edition, I would be glad to see this mod included in pack because for rather simple story, mod author achieved what many modders couldn't do in the long run. He provided "natural" addition to Capital Wasteland, but didn't try to "shoot for the stars", that's why you can relate and immerse yourself in this story. Only minor dissatisfaction with model of gold bullion which you find at the end of the mod. I thought it would be texture of gold bars from Fallout NV Dead Money DLC, but it is just a model of standard pre-war money which is kinda sad but not a big deal. Should you try this mod in 2023? Yes, as a returning old Fallout 3 mods fan, I recommend to play it for every new playthrough if you want decent little story without over the top "oh boy, save the world again!". Completed in 2 hours in Fallout 3 Rebirth+ MC by VegasStephen. EDIT 20.04.23: This quest mod definitely has conflict with "The apartment on New York Avenue" by JW1 which I started to play today. I suggest to use them separately, complete one quest, then deactivate and activate another because I encountered CtD right before even loading the save file. I'm pretty sure from their conflict, because new locations is very close to each other on Pen. Avenue.
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The changes are summarized in the newest file description, but for a full list of changes (contains minor spoilers):
This mod previously contained a pretty severe bug that could break the Tenpenny Tower sidequest if other mods that affected its script (such as the Unofficial Patch) were used. It should be fixed with the newest version, and has been playtested as working again, but let me know if you encounter any issues. Essentially, there used to be a bad edit to the Tenpenny Tower quest script, in order to accomplish an effect that has since been resolved using other changes. Sharlene Dogwood now only spawns after the No Such quest is started, and is disabled after "part one." She does not spawn at all if the ghouls have already moved in, and her optional objective is automatically failed. This means that it is highly recommended to do her optional objective while "part one" is active (before going into the FBI building) and to do this quest separate from Tenpenny Tower, not concurrently; however, this is just for immersion's sake and there should be no softlocking issues with the Tenpenny Tower quest from this mod anymore.
Yes (actually this time). I've chosen to release this update for the F3 version first to ensure it is in a good state to be ported over to TTW, including confirmation that the Tenpenny Tower bug is fixed. I have been in contact with another NexusMods user to make this port happen. Still TBA on a release timeframe, however.
User vegasstephen released a cleaned version of the mod's esp, which I was very thankful for at a time I was pretty busy and couldn't tend to maintaining the mod. I believe the necessary changes to clean the mod have been implemented with 2.0, and thus it should no longer be necessary to use that version. However, if there are any issues still present, please let me know.
I like it. No problems. intersting story!
Thank you very much!
I had a hard time completing this quest - I could not locate the password to the terminal in the capitol building, and had to use youtube (if there was a hint anywhere for its location, please tell me).
When navigating through the FBI building, I had to cheat my way through multiple doors, as the keys collected from the dead BOS member did not work. The building was searched multiple times for alternatives, before I just gave up. (I used youtube again, and went back to where the sub-level key card were supposed to be - it was not there.)
Literally failing the quest as part of the quest is just not my cup of tea, but that's my personal opinion being mixed in here.
When completing the 2nd part, it surprised me that there is no way to end the quest peacefully, even with 100k caps in my inventory. Every possible ending was hostile, even after completing the extremely difficult speech check when speaking with the mercenary with nice hair.
I also have my suspicions that this mod broke the quest "Tenpenny Towers" as I could not advance the quest after assassinating the ghoul and his crew.
Setting the mod to load before and after had no effect.
This quest mod breaks the quest ''Tempenny Tower'' for some odd reason. If you kill Roy Philips, the quest wont proceed to the next stage.
Could be a conflict with the Unnoficial Patch, i don't know. Complete Tempenny Tower first, then install this mod.
Loading this mod BEFORE the unofficial patch solves the killing roy philips bug, but i don't know what it breaks on this mod's side.
I should also mention that author tried to implement variable dialog choices to solve some problems and it was good every time.
As for the quick overview, if Bethesda going to made something like Skyrim but Fallout 3 Anniversary Edition, I would be glad to see this mod included in pack because for rather simple story, mod author achieved what many modders couldn't do in the long run. He provided "natural" addition to Capital Wasteland, but didn't try to "shoot for the stars", that's why you can relate and immerse yourself in this story.
Only minor dissatisfaction with model of gold bullion which you find at the end of the mod. I thought it would be texture of gold bars from Fallout NV Dead Money DLC, but it is just a model of standard pre-war money which is kinda sad but not a big deal.
Should you try this mod in 2023? Yes, as a returning old Fallout 3 mods fan, I recommend to play it for every new playthrough if you want decent little story without over the top "oh boy, save the world again!".
Completed in 2 hours in Fallout 3 Rebirth+ MC by VegasStephen.
EDIT 20.04.23: This quest mod definitely has conflict with "The apartment on New York Avenue" by JW1 which I started to play today. I suggest to use them separately, complete one quest, then deactivate and activate another because I encountered CtD right before even loading the save file. I'm pretty sure from their conflict, because new locations is very close to each other on Pen. Avenue.
Thanks again for the review.
it's not the last time, I think :)
great review
Not a big deal, really.