Please do not use 1.5.x for now. Stick with 1.4.x.
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Thank you for this fine mod. I read the Description, but I still have questions...
1) Can "Worldspace" records be esl-ified, or are they the same as "Cell" records? 2) If mods with Cell records can't be compacted, is it impossible to esl-ify a follower mod that has their follower placed in a Cell record? So the only way you could esl-ify such a follower mod, and still use the follower, is to spawn the follower using console in-game?
I think you misunderstood the CELL/ESL-flag issue. There's absolutely no problem ESPFE-ifying a mod that puts a new NPC/book/chest/whatever into an existing CELL record. The vast majority of add-on-follower mods do that. Most of the others put them into an outdoor WRLD record. FE-ifying those is fine too.
The issue is FE-ifying an ESP that creates a completely new CELL record. Though it's actually not an issue with that mod; the problem is that if a subsequent mod uses the one with the new CELL as a master and modifies the new CELL, the engine will lose track of what's supposed to be in that new CELL.
SSEedit 4.0.2 and 4.0.4. Weird thing is, it worked fine testing on another machine that is 1.6.640. My mod making machine is 1.5.97, where I get the error message. Has me scratching my head. SysUtils.pas seems to be related to Delphi as near as I can tell.
Skyrim version does not matter, only SSEEdit version and this script version. Tested SSEEdit 4.0.4 with ESPFE Follower 1.4 and all works fine. Maybe reinstall SSEEdit?
Thanks for the reply but I guess let me ask in a different way, what is the difference between using the Vortex way vs your mod? as so far I have not had a problem I think when converting using the built in Vortex eslifyer (make plugin light). Sorry don't know It's maybe because the hrs I have been awake and brain not registering, and my apologies if I'm coming across as dense and making you explain it again.
To make follower espfe, you need to change not only records in plugin, but also assets like meshes, textures and audio files. Are you sure vortex plugin can, for example, edit face mesh to change paths to textures?
Thanks for the reply and I'll be honest have no clue, like I said it hasn't shown any problems that I can see ( I do convert them before a new play ) and that's honestly why I asked because I saw all the stuff you listed and I was like, hmm I wonder if it's the same thing? I guess at this point I should do a little research, sadly Vortex only has like the basic info of features they don't really tell you the works of it. Thanks for the quick replies and apologies if I made you waste time on this.
The Vortex thing basically checks if the plugin can be converted to ESL, as it is.
This mod actually converts it, as in it renames things, deletes things and more, it's far more powerful than the Vortex plugin which is useful, but only for very basic mods.
Did anyone else have an issue where a follower eslfied by this mod would have their face turned into a default vanilla face? I eslfied a bunch of "small" followers(no custom voice or cells, just a character) that I had and quite a bunch of them had their face ruined. And replacing the .esl with the original .esp fixed it. I kinda gave up on those since I would be wasting a .esp slot with small followers but now I am wondering if theres a way to eslsify them without bugging their face.
Also some other type of mods I was able to turn into .esl with this mod just didnt work right until I reinstalled the .esp as well. For example, I eslfied the mod Fossil Mining and tried to use it with the Legacy of the Dragonborn patch, and my game just refused to reach the title menu until I turned the Fossil Mining to its original .esp. I lot of other patched mods I eslsified worked fine, so I dunno whats different with that one. Also yea, I made sure to make a SEQ file of every mod I eslfied.
Thankfully I noted some of them down https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/88989 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/27202 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/54538 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/65793 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23813 All followers that got bugged face after converting to .esl
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/27202 -- works fine https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/54538 -- this is my mod, it is espfe both converted, no need to change to espfe: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/65793 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23813
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/88989 -- will test soon
sorry I keep bothering haha but I was wondering if it's ok to convert patches and follower addons like extra dialogue this way? they meet the conditions and are not used as msters so Im assuming itll be safe
Hi there, I have a few questions. What does this newest version change, and should I download it? Why is there one in optional, and in main files? This optional version is a beta? When is SSEEDIt supposed to get updated so it's safe to download this version
And say I have a follower mod with scripts and custom voiced dialogue, and apply your SSEEDIT script, would their scripts and dialogue still work/function after?
This mod works really well. I used it on 85 standalone mods (follower, armor and appearance mods - brows).
I skipped any mod that had seq or scripts because I didn't want to do extra steps.
I made sure none of the mods added a new cell or were over 2048 records in SSEEDit.
My game version is 1.5.97. My SSEEDit is up to date (4.1.5f). I chose ESPFE Follower version 1.4.0 (1.5.1 didn't work for me even with Backported Extended ESL Support installed, but this is likely my own fault - needs more testing).
from what I gathered it's ok if the mod has scripts, I just skip the ones that have a source folder(psc files), still havent used it on any of my spell pack mods tho
also, may I ask which followers you used the script on? I use the famous ones(lucien inigo etc) and they have a lot of patches and stuff and im afraid ill break my modlist lol
My SSEEDit version is 4.1.5f, so your 1.4.1 version of ESPFE Follower probably works with it. I don't have anymore mods that need to be ESL though.
Now that I'm thinking about it more, I forgot that I had to use SSEEdit64 and install version 4.1.5f to make your ESPFE Follower version 1.4.0 work (I was using 4.0.4 and SSEEdit32 at first). I was also past the 255 plugin limit. It's very likely that your ESPFE Follower version 1.5.1 will work for me now, but I would have to test it more.
According to, https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/21618 , scripts are okay if they don't useGetFormFromFile. I just didn't want to spend time on extra steps with scripts and seq mods. I updated my original comment to make this more clear.
I only used the ESPFE Follower tool on standalone mods like Sylvanas, https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/5001 .
sorry if I sound stupid, Im just using this for converting my armor, weapons tools etc mods, I load sseedit, select my vortex plugins and just run the script and if it converts I save the plugin, what is create SEQ file used for? Vortex recognizes my new plugin as esl flagged, what am I missing here
You only need an SEQ for mods that have a Start Enabled Quest, often used for followers with dialogue. If the original mod didn't have one, you don't need to create one.
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1) Can "Worldspace" records be esl-ified, or are they the same as "Cell" records?
2) If mods with Cell records can't be compacted, is it impossible to esl-ify a follower mod that has their follower placed in a Cell record? So the only way you could esl-ify such a follower mod, and still use the follower, is to spawn the follower using console in-game?
The issue is FE-ifying an ESP that creates a completely new CELL record. Though it's actually not an issue with that mod; the problem is that if a subsequent mod uses the one with the new CELL as a master and modifies the new CELL, the engine will lose track of what's supposed to be in that new CELL.
Tested SSEEdit 4.0.4 with ESPFE Follower 1.4 and all works fine. Maybe reinstall SSEEdit?
Sorry don't know It's maybe because the hrs I have been awake and brain not registering, and my apologies if I'm coming across as dense and making you explain it again.
Are you sure vortex plugin can, for example, edit face mesh to change paths to textures?
I guess at this point I should do a little research, sadly Vortex only has like the basic info of features they don't really tell you the works of it.
Thanks for the quick replies and apologies if I made you waste time on this.
This mod actually converts it, as in it renames things, deletes things and more, it's far more powerful than the Vortex plugin which is useful, but only for very basic mods.
Also some other type of mods I was able to turn into .esl with this mod just didnt work right until I reinstalled the .esp as well. For example, I eslfied the mod Fossil Mining and tried to use it with the Legacy of the Dragonborn patch, and my game just refused to reach the title menu until I turned the Fossil Mining to its original .esp. I lot of other patched mods I eslsified worked fine, so I dunno whats different with that one. Also yea, I made sure to make a SEQ file of every mod I eslfied.
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/88989
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/27202
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/54538
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/65793
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23813
All followers that got bugged face after converting to .esl
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/54538 -- this is my mod, it is espfe
both converted, no need to change to espfe:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/65793
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23813
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/88989 -- will test soon
This optional version is a beta? When is SSEEDIt supposed to get updated so it's safe to download this version
And say I have a follower mod with scripts and custom voiced dialogue, and apply your SSEEDIT script, would their scripts and dialogue still work/function after?
Optional version is for ESPFE with records starting from 0 (new espfe format 1.71), for now SSEEdit is not supporting it, so do not use this file.
TBH? IDK. This is why I provided scripts for both cases.
Dialogue yes, scripts yes if there is no raw form id used in them.
I skipped any mod that had seq or scripts because I didn't want to do extra steps.
I made sure none of the mods added a new cell or were over 2048 records in SSEEDit.
My game version is 1.5.97. My SSEEDit is up to date (4.1.5f). I chose ESPFE Follower version 1.4.0 (1.5.1 didn't work for me even with Backported Extended ESL Support installed, but this is likely my own fault - needs more testing).
Please check 1.4.1 with new SSEEdit :)
also, may I ask which followers you used the script on? I use the famous ones(lucien inigo etc) and they have a lot of patches and stuff and im afraid ill break my modlist lol
Now that I'm thinking about it more, I forgot that I had to use SSEEdit64 and install version 4.1.5f to make your ESPFE Follower version 1.4.0 work (I was using 4.0.4 and SSEEdit32 at first). I was also past the 255 plugin limit. It's very likely that your ESPFE Follower version 1.5.1 will work for me now, but I would have to test it more.
I only used the ESPFE Follower tool on standalone mods like Sylvanas, https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/5001 .