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As pointed out on r/skyrimmods, alchemical formula/recipe notes are not patched and will just be wrong after using the randomizer. There are also unintended side effects if you are using mods that lets you learn from these notes.
The Compatibility section has been updated to reflect this, and the FAQ section has more details about this issue.
First of all: finding the offending mod. When the error occurs, the dialogue box will pop up with a link to some ESP and reference that it crashed on.
ERROR: Cannot resolve NULL reference.
This is NOT the mod that is causing issues. To find the mod that is causing issues, close the textbox and then click "Show Log". Scroll up to the last entry in the log before the error and look for the ID, the first two numbers of the ID is the mod in your load order causing issues. Example:
Error
[ERROR] Error: Failed to set element (...)
This is the offending mod. In my case, it is dse-soulgem-oven.esp. There are two things you can do at this point:
- Add that esp to the Ignore Plugins list by copy and pasting the plugin name exactly as shown in the load order. The mod effects won't get scrambled (which is preferable in the case of this mod), but they also won't make your patch fail.
- The more advance method: Open up the alchemy ingredient referenced in the patch log (22003DE1). You'll notice that the ingredient does not have 4 alchemy effects. To fix this, you'll need to open the mod in SSEEdit or CreationKit and add in valid magic effects (easiest way is to copy valid magic effects from other ingredients) until the ingredient is at 4 magic effects. Save the plugin, attempt to patch, and then repeat for each ingredient that causes an error.
Hope this helps any other modder stuck with errors.Requiem effects: https://old.reddit.com/r/skyrimrequiem/comments/2ta31h/requiem_182_alchemy_ingredients/
Just a pity that it doesn't seem to work with some of my other mods eg Technicolor Alchemy, SAFO. Getting the same error as referred to by a poster below for the CACO mod (NULL reference)
Hoping for an update soon that fixes these problems.
Latest update: I got CACO and Technicolor Alchemy to work with this mod after several edits. Please let us know when you update again, I love this mod a lot, it's just that the inability to set magnitude of the enchantment can sometimes lead to overpowered ingredients.
I do understand the annoyance you're talking about, though. However, while I added the Paralysis option due to an engine bug, the concept of a "fatal effect" is subjective, especially considering that one of the core goals of all of my randomizers is mod compatibility. Jarrin Root's Damage Health does 200 damage, so is this the threshold I should look for? Or should it be lower, say 150 damage? How about Lingering Damage Health, or Ravage Health, or any other mod-added effect that has the potential to be a "fatal effect"? I would need to hardcode all these values, or at least have them in a JSON file, for me to implement this as an option.
Regardless, I'm interested in hearing more opinions about this matter. I'm not completely opposed to implementing this feature, but there are quite a few things to consider before I can do so.
Anyway, anybody using this patch is already using zEdit, so when they find the special ingredient they can choose what to do with it. I just delete it from my patch. It's not a big deal, it would just save me 15 minutes of random playtime.
Would it be possible to implement either of these:
Prevent Paralysis from being the first effect?
Take special ingredients like the Jarin Root out of the rotation?
As for your recommendations:
like the Dark Brotherhood quest requires you to make a poison out of its specific effects to continue. Yes, the extremely high magnitude/gold value on Damage Health randomized on a common ingredient, for example Lavender, would make it quite unbalanced, but that's part of why you're using a randomizer, no? The disclaimer I had about game balance is there for a reason. If I excluded Jarrin Root from the randomizer because of balance, I might as well prevent the patcher from running if CACO is loaded.
Fair enough about the Jarin Root. I did run into the case where it was on my game on Tundra Cotton, and I just didn't want access to such a powerful poison (after I reloaded from the self-inflicted death). I should be able to modify the Jarin Root to a lower amount in my bashed patch, and then the randomizer should take that potency in later games.
I'll open an ticket to add an option to the patcher settings that prevents Paralysis from being the first effect. However, I'm currently working on my next randomizer idea, so it'll probably take a bit before I get to this.