Long time ago, when i was a mod user i've always thought "Look at those arrogant mod authors, always answering in that haughty way".Anyway, now i know that they where right and i was wrong sooooooo: While i will gladly encourage user to give feedback on the mod, i must ask to all of you to PRECISE YOUR ISSUES. If you feel you have a compatibility issue, please post your load order. Translating issue will be fixed almost always in the next version or right away. In other words: "Doesn't work for me" = Ignored. And so on. Mod was just installed? Mod was updated? Did you read the main page? Thank you for your time.
A suggestion/request: It would be fantastic if you could have your mod detect Teach Followers Spells Through Spell Tomes SE and disable the automatic learning/access to the support spells if that mod is present. :)
I am sorry if I aggravate your tolerance but due to my inabilities I need to ask. This mod won't Destroy M'rissi's Tails of Troubles SEcustom and separate AI follower framework? She has no magic abilities but I am using other magic base followers and would love if they have the ability to heal.
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These behaviors will work with every possible follower which is commanded under these conditions:
INIGO or Serana are supported (Npc putted in the WIfollowercommentfaction)
Is considered in "Faction Relations" as an "Ally" (Like Sofia and probably a lot of others, custom Follower)
FAQ Is compatible with (Insert Follower mod here)? Yes should be. Does it screw my npc packages? No actor or vanilla packages have being edited.
Context clue state that it shouldn't but my pass experience of not noticing to not use My Home is Your Home on custom Followers and don't know if I truly read your description correctly. I am hoping to get a correct answer especially form the mod author.
It's very simple, if the mod Author that made the mod you mentioned, didn't use the factions or the state that i mentioned in the description this mod won't work. This means that he/she probably used a complete custom follower framework. Good news is that you can simply save the game, keep that save separated, install msff, check if it works and if it doesn't just reverse to your old save.
Please share if it is compatible, i suppose a lot of user like you of your favorite mod would like to know is compatible.
Thank you for the response and time Alaebasta, My goal for MSFF and M'rissi, is to deactivate her usage of your mod in the MSFF Lesser Power Menu and allow the other followers to use MSFF magic features and Direct commands. How do I check for Faction? In Xedit under her Faction tab; if I read it correctly I couldn't find any label Generic Follower handling, WIfollowercommentfaction or Faction Relations set as "Ally" just "MRTMrissiSelfFaction" In Console Command I found
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This qualified for the Npc putted in the WIfollowercommentfaction? The spaces are throwing me off and I am not that educated on computer scripts. One reason why I am hesitance on installing and testing MSFF is that if I use MSFF Direct commands and Lesser power menu, will that break her AI BRAIN? Like how Nether's Follower Framework IMPORT function will break her AI and also My Home is Your Home is another mod that can break her AI even registering her under My Home is Your Home is dangerous. Not Even a "rollback" may not help (this mean going back on a previous save,no?). So I'm scared that I install MSFF use it, break her AI then I can't restore it even when going back on a back up save. Again I am hoping to get educated on the subject from a person with experience before I test MSFF and I am hoping to have a little bit more of your patience and time Alaebasta. Thank you again and safe day. Where I got the "it is baked in to your game so even a rollback may not help "Though I think the user is misinform and you can go back form a previous save I just posted to identify my source. https://pastebin.com/aYTB9fpB Cant get the spoiler function to work My apologies for a long post
Nah, don't worry, you won't break anything. They have not "that" smart brain... Yes, if you install any type of mods, their properties will imprint in your save, but as long as you test on a separate save without the mod to test is ok.
Use this console command on the follower factions i indicated. "GetInFaction" Or check if the follower is "Ally" of the player faction.
But to check compatibility if you don't want to get technical, it is faster to just jump to test on a separate save.
Thank you again for your time and patience. With your info I will able to commence testing. When I'm able to play, test and report MSFF compatible with my choice followers.
Umm... I think something went wrong with the new version (both ESL-flagged and not).
Many of the mod records are associated to Skyrim.esm instead of MagicSupportFollowerFramework.esp, and not in an intentional way (changed form types for the same form ID).
This looks like such a great mod. I read the description and I didn't anything about installing this mid playthrough... Is possible to put this in mid game?
while this mod is working great and play along NFF pretty well, I found that my Sofia follower started to dual casting her fireball at the enemy and burning anything in her path to crisp(rip them lmao) however I set her class to be light one-handed dual-wielder and not a destruction mage!
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Long time ago, when i was a mod user i've always thought "Look at those arrogant mod authors, always answering in that haughty way". Anyway, now i know that they where right and i was wrong sooooooo: While i will gladly encourage user to give feedback on the mod, i must ask to all of you to PRECISE YOUR ISSUES. If you feel you have a compatibility issue, please post your load order. Translating issue will be fixed almost always in the next version or right away. In other words: "Doesn't work for me" = Ignored. And so on. Mod was just installed? Mod was updated? Did you read the main page? Thank you for your time.
I'm sure his mod will be an invaluable tool, and i'm glad he shared his work with the community.
Check it out here: Magic Support Follower Framework Easy Wheel Menu
Magic Support Follower Framework + La Bella Magia addendum - Summons and Undead Minions Synergy
These behaviors will work with every possible follower which is commanded under these conditions:
- INIGO or Serana are supported (Npc putted in the WIfollowercommentfaction)
- Is considered in "Faction Relations" as an "Ally" (Like Sofia and probably a lot of others, custom Follower)
FAQIs compatible with (Insert Follower mod here)? Yes should be.
Does it screw my npc packages? No actor or vanilla packages have being edited.
Context clue state that it shouldn't but my pass experience of not noticing to not use My Home is Your Home on custom Followers and don't know if I truly read your description correctly. I am hoping to get a correct answer especially form the mod author.
This means that he/she probably used a complete custom follower framework.
Good news is that you can simply save the game, keep that save separated, install msff, check if it works and if it doesn't just reverse to your old save.
Please share if it is compatible, i suppose a lot of user like you of your favorite mod would like to know is compatible.
Thank you for the feedback
How do I check for Faction? In Xedit under her Faction tab; if I read it correctly I couldn't find any label Generic Follower handling, WIfollowercommentfaction or Faction Relations set as "Ally" just "MRTMrissiSelfFaction"
In Console Command I found
One reason why I am hesitance on installing and testing MSFF is that if I use MSFF Direct commands and Lesser power menu, will that break her AI BRAIN? Like how Nether's Follower Framework IMPORT function will break her AI and also My Home is Your Home is another mod that can break her AI even registering her under My Home is Your Home is dangerous. Not Even a "rollback" may not help (this mean going back on a previous save,no?). So I'm scared that I install MSFF use it, break her AI then I can't restore it even when going back on a back up save.
Again I am hoping to get educated on the subject from a person with experience before I test MSFF and I am hoping to have a little bit more of your patience and time Alaebasta. Thank you again and safe day.
Where I got the "it is baked in to your game so even a rollback may not help "Though I think the user is misinform and you can go back form a previous save I just posted to identify my source. https://pastebin.com/aYTB9fpB Cant get the spoiler function to work
My apologies for a long post
Yes, if you install any type of mods, their properties will imprint in your save, but as long as you test on a separate save without the mod to test is ok.
Use this console command on the follower factions i indicated.
"GetInFaction"
Or check if the follower is "Ally" of the player faction.
But to check compatibility if you don't want to get technical, it is faster to just jump to test on a separate save.
Umm... I think something went wrong with the new version (both ESL-flagged and not).
Many of the mod records are associated to Skyrim.esm instead of MagicSupportFollowerFramework.esp, and not in an intentional way (changed form types for the same form ID).
Only had a couple 1.71 plugins so far and they hadn't taken advantage of the new address space apparently.
Looking at it now with the latest xEdit, it appears indeed, everything is fine.
So thanks for the update, and for showing me something new!
EDIT: Just need to wait a couple of minutes and wander around then "MSFF AI command added" will notifies and bam! works like a charm
anyone know what did I missed here?
I also have some feedback and a tip if anyone runs into the same problem.
So MSFF menu didn't appear in my powers list,
The list of potentially relevant mods I'm using are:
I played with load order of esps and still couldn't get it to turn up.
I settled with adding it after NFF and it's tweak esp's,
then in console I typed :
help msffLooked for the 'MSFF Menu' spell in the list...
Then I added said spell via:
player.addspell #SpellCodeNow it works!
I'm not sure which of my mods is halting the spell from appearing in-game but hopefully this information helps someone.