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11/02/2022
I took a quick look through the original mod from Ichibu and most of his custom pets use templates and the base dog race which I've edited in attack dogs, so they should work together. The main downside is that there are several pets which use custom races and wouldn't benefit from certain features such as scaling when they level up or custom abilities, which would leave them comparatively underpowered in combat if they ever ended up having to fight another dog.
As far as a patch goes, I'm not sure if I can make one or not. The version of dogs of skyrim that Ichibu created for pc stopped at version 2.0, the one on Xbox is 2.0.1. If there's any major differences between the two mods then there's likely some things that can't be patched because I don't have access to the pc version that Vexona used when they ported the mod to Xbox.
Glad to hear that you're enjoying the mod. Once I start feeling better and my schedule clears up, I don't think it will take too much longer for the final 1.0 update. It's mostly just some bug fixes and a graphics update.
For 2.0 I'm planning on starting over again from scratch. There's a lot of improvements that could be made for this mod and it's much easier to just work from the bottom up, rather than search through stuff and try to remember how I set it up several years ago. Got any suggestions for the future?
The new 2.0 stuff will be probably be released sometime in the latter half of 2024, you'll likely need to start a new game or use a save cleaner for 2.0 since I'll be replacing large chunks of the mod. I'm even planning on creating new custom models for various animals, which is something that I haven't bothered doing in years. Usually I just borrow models from other modders and retexture them, this time I'm going to be able make things look exactly the way that I want them to look. Before I start work on 2.0 though, I'm going to create a general creature overhaul and use it as a sort of testing ground for feedback on the new features that I plan on putting in the overhauled version of attack dogs.
The remaining plans that I have for 2024 are to update my aetherial staff mod, I kind of forgot about it and moved on to other projects. There will also be a perk overhaul and a magic overhaul to go with it, I've been writing down ideas for them on and off for the past couple of years. It's sort of like adamant and mysticism, only these mods will make a lot of changes and add new mechanics. 2024 is the year that I channel my zodiac sign and become the metal workhorse!
If you have any suggestions or gripes, now would be the best time to speak up about them.
As for suggestions... Generally, I rarely make suggestions and mostly satisfied with the mods being the way their authors envisioned them, but since you asked, I'll think something up now. First what comes to my mind - I love big sprawling perk trees, that's why I still use Ordinator, though the mod is old. I was going to try some new perk overhaul, but their "vanilla+" perk trees look tiny compared to Ordinator's, so I never bothered to even install them. I know that "more" is not necessarily mean "better", but it's just how I like my perk trees, so if your perk overhaul would have big perk trees, it would definitely make me more interested in it. And for race overhaul - right now I'm using Aetherius, but your Paladium seems very interesting. I haven't even noticed it earlier... There are cool stuff there. But I think the mod page lacks more screenshots and the description lacks decorative stuff - you know, like more popular mods have. Make the page more flashy, add color, hide less stuff under the spoiler tags... And most importantly - more screenshots. It would appeal to our stupid monkey brain and make people notice your mods more. Also... Next thing is just for me. It would be nice if Palladium had a patch for "Charmers of the Reach" - it adds beautified versions of the vanilla races, so race overhauls don't work on them without a patch. I plan to play as a dunmer from that mod, so there's no sense for me in installing Palladium if it has no effect on the race I play.
I think it's all I have in mind. I'm still in the process of assembling my perfect load order, so starting a new game is not a problem - I heven't really started playing for about two years now
The old 1.0 version of palladium used to have a patch for charmers of the reach. I guess I forgot to update it to 2.0, thanks for mentioning that. I'm a pretty scatter brained person so I tend to forget a lot of stuff unless I'm reminded.
Compared to most other race mods, it's one of the more unique ones out there IMO. One of the main differences is that your race isn't the only deciding factor for your racials. After character creation you can choose a sort of sub-race which will give you one of several sets of abilities, for example most of the dark elf houses and tribes can be selected and they're all different. I think there was around 25 options across all races in the current version. Initially, I just created the mod as a way to learn to script better. The mod has grown far more than what was originally intended though, I ended up having a lot of fun with it, so I kept adding stuff.
I definitely dropped the ball in regards to the media side of things. In the video section there's a showcase of the mod that some youtuber made and a video of one of the flashier abilities that the indoril dark elf option gets but that's about it at the moment, it's pretty barren. The screenshots in there are mostly just to show proof that I'm actually developing the mod and not just getting people's hopes up about requested features without delivering on them. I'm planning on adding a few more screenshots with some actual substance once I've released the next update.
Thank you, I'll be waiting for the patch and for the update. Yes, I've seen the sub-races thing, I like the idea very much, it's good fore roleplay. Like, I will not only be able to think about my dunmer as of house Redoran descendant, but also see it in effects menu and see it affect my gameplay. It's brilliant! And I just thought about it - maybe add different icons to effects? Different icons for different dunmer houses and tribes, for example. Or just compatibility with I4 racial abilities icons. I just love interface stuff
There's several abilities that have custom art for the part that hovers over descriptions, no custom icons though. I wasn't even aware of that mod before you brought it up. I'll have to look into it at some point, it seems like a cool idea.
For example, the dunmer have these floating over their house descriptions. I also made it into a resource mod, but I don't think anyone has taken advantage of it yet, so I'm probably the only one using these at the moment.
You didn't know about I4? It was on the top of the main page at some point, it's a very useful framework for icons. Definitely look into it, maybe you could add custom icons not only for racial abilities, but also for spells end effects from your upcoming pers and magic overhauls. Maybe custom icons for dog summons too? And for items, if some of your mods have unique items. As I've said - I personally love interface stuff and I just install every new icons mod I see. I even almost installed some magic pack mod only because someone did a mod with new icons for it, but I had to stop myself and remind me that I already have more than enough magic mods.
And I've seen your banner resource pack, they're beautiful! I was wondering if some quest or location mod uses it, but I haven't noticed your resource mentioned anywhere in credits section. Though I can't say that I usually read credit sections very carefully...
I resurrected it using vampire lord form, clicked on it with more informative console here's the details:
base form id = 02008d79
ref form id = fe055e3f
I'm saying this might be a bug caused because more informative console says ref defined in hand placed enemies. Not sure to write this comment here or over there since your mod does change and overhaul the dogs otherwise though 10/10 mod.
Is it also normal for that dog in the cave when you first go see Serana to be fighting the vampires? Sometimes I'd already see the dog dead or afk in some corner or helping me fight them ahha
I assume you mean Freesia, the wolf at the entrance to Dimhollow Crypt? She was meant to be Vigilant Tolan's pet, she's guarding his corpse from the vampires. I did a poor job of showing it back then and dropped her into the the cave next to him without providing too many clues due to a lack of skill.
I came up with small backgrounds for most of the custom pets that can follow you around but wasn't able to implement them at the time, I didn't know much about creating quests or custom behavior. Some pets even have a couple of leftover hidden requirements that you need to meet before they'll pal around with you. The requirements were supposed to be revealed with clues around the area or through quests but I never finished them, you can see the requirements in the manual or in the Custom Pet Locations article.
Immersion was one of the things I was planning on improving once I started work on version 2.0 of the mod. I've gotten about 5 years of experience since then, so I'm pretty sure I can manage to get the original intent across this time. The current update that I'm working on will address a lot of the longstanding bugs and upgrade the graphics for a lot of animals, if everything goes well it should be ready around the first quarter of next year. Once that's done I'll start work on version 2.0 at a later date.
Thanks for bringing this stuff up.
Yeah Freesia, sometimes she's already dead :( when I come in. All the best for your future update though
If the friendly fire perk was working properly they wouldn't have died at all, that's one of the things that's getting addressed in the coming update.
Later on down the line, once I start adding new features, I don't mind creating an option to toggle their status to essential from protected, that way it wouldn't be an issue anymore. I think Nether's Follower Framework may have had that feature, it's been a while since I last used it though so I'm not really sure. You may also be able to use the console to do it.
and Yes NFF does have that feature. The problem is I think it is set to were If your followers are low health you can kill them but enemies can't. or that might be a setting in the mod.
But I'm running into an issue where my canine companion freezes when fighting an enemy or taking damage in any way, I know this was addressed before in the FAQ so I tried using the RESET spell and it just doesn't do much outside of letting my pup move again until they get hit. It becomes even more of a problem sort of because this mod effects another one of my magic spells mod where it adds a special conjure familiar wolf too.
The only mods that I have that effect dog's AI are NFF and A dog's life but I made sure this mod was overwriting them both. Would there be another way I could prevent this from happening on my part?
I have some ideas that I'm planning on trying out when I start fixing bugs for the final 1.0 update before I start working on the 2.0 version, but I'm not sure if any of them will actually fix this problem or not. One of the ideas was to see if I could periodically refresh their AI with a script. Before I get around to fixing this mod, I'll have to finish the update for my race mod first. I should be done with my race mod around November or December if everything goes as planned.
Take your time! I hope your race mod is going well :)
Also I noticed that further down you mentioned there was issues with NFF and Attack Dogs so I probably will reorder their plugins and see if that does anything. I thought I should reply back since the mod I mentioned wasn't due to yours. ^^; (Also I realized the Summoning spell I was talking about was actually the Spectral Wolf from Attack Dogs and not from a different one, lol)
The best advice I can offer is to throw the coin on the ground and then have the dog pick it up using the follower commands, not through dialogue. By doing it this way, the coin will go into the dog's true inventory, rather than cloud storage. When I originally created this mod, I was having issues with dogs equipping random items. This would sometimes cause them to not attack during combat, so I gave them cloud storage inventories instead of letting the player have access to their actual inventory. I have no idea if this will actually solve your problem or not.
I usually just have to kill them off myself since with the allied npc's in my case when attacking the vampire castle followers and such wouldn't fully kill the dogs so I'd have to do it or else the dogs would recover and go after me haha. Vick and dogs added in to vampire faction had to be put down :(
If you don't feel like killing the dogs yourself, it's possible to set up the dogs to lose their protected status if you happen to be a member of the opposing faction, which would allow other npcs to kill them, it would take some scripting though. Protected status doesn't always seem to protect the dog in every situation, back when I had NFF installed, Lydia and a couple other followers managed to kill a few of my dogs at different times.
The last idea would be some kind of redemption quest to tame and remove dogs from opposing factions and then bring them over to your side. That would require a fair amount of work though if I wanted to make it immersive.
I'm always up for suggestions for future updates, if you've got ideas feel free to bring them up. It's not guaranteed to make it into an update, but I'm always willing to listen and talk about it when I have the time.