HOLDS Compatibility List (Last Update: 04/04/2016)
Credit goes to all those who have posted their findings so far. Thankyou for your efforts.
Please feel free to post any other compatibility findings or questions here.
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AceeQ's Enhanced Landscapes - Semi-Compatible (Minor, cosmetic issues, trees clip through some houses in such-and-such settlement) Aemer's Refuge - Should be compatible Alternate Start Live Another Life - Compatible Requires compatibility patch Animallica - Unconfirmed
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Beyond Reach - Should be compatible Bijin Packs (All-in-one 2016, Warmaidens, Wives, NPCs) - Should be compatible Bijin All-in-one pack seems to be incompatible with Holds only if Holds and it's patches are placed on the bottom of the load order. When I use LOOT to organize my load order, they work together. Books of Skyrim - Not compatible (It will for now clip with the Chapel of Akatosh) Breezehome Fully Upgradable - Unconfirmed BreezehomeTNF - Unconfirmed BreezehomeTNF (Elianora's Flavour) - Unconfirmed
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Cannabis Skyrim - Not compatible Civil War Overhaul - Not compatible Complete Fast Travel Overhaul - Unconfirmed Civil War Repairs - Should be compatible Cutting Room Floor - Compatible Requires compatibility patch
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Dawn of Skyrim Collection - Unconfirmed
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ELE Lite - Unconfirmed Enhanced Landscapes - Unconfirmed Enhanced Lights and FX - Unconfirmed ETAC (Expanded Towns and Cities) - Unconfirmed
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Falskaar - Compatible Requires Compatibility patch Farmhouse Chimneys - Should be compatible Frostfall - Compatible with PatchPatch in File section
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Gray Cowl of Nocturnal - Should be compatible
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Hearthfire Extended - Unconfirmed Helgen Reborn - Compatible with PatchPatch in File section Hjerim TNF - Unconfirmed Holidays - Compatible with patch Honeyside TNF - Unconfirmed Horses On Patrol (Vanilla) - Unconfirmed(Might be incompatible) Horses Renewal (non HDT replacer version 2.0) - Compatible(unconfirmed about later non-replacer versions, as they add a stable near Whiterun)
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Immersive Amazing Follower Tweaks - Unconfirmed Immersive Citizens - Kind of Compatible Use the Immersive Citizens Lite version. It will work alongside Holds, though the mod author does have some concern that there may be some slight problems in area's with too many NPC's. Keep that in mind if your also using interesting NPC's, Inconsequential NPC's, etc... Immersive College of Winterhold - Should be compatible Immersive Laundry - Should be compatible Immersive Patrols - Should be compatible Immersive Wenches - Unconfirmed Inconsequential NPC's - Should be compatible iNeed - Compatible Inside Out - Compatible(Whiterun, Solitude, Windhelm, Riften - all checked) Interesting NPC's - Compatible with Patch [size=12][HIGHLY RECOMMENDED][/size] Patch in File section It Beats for Her - Unconfirmed
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JK's Skyrim - Unconfirmed(I have spoken with JK and he has given me permission to create a compatibility patch)
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Lanterns of Skyrim - Not compatible Legacy of the Dragonborn - Not compatible (Same as Books of Skyrim, also visual bugs and CTDs reported. IceCreamAssassin will create a patch some time in the future.) Legendary Cities Tes Arena Skyrim Frontier Fortress - Semi-Compatible (Some duplicates reported but otherwise fine (Black Moor and North Keep) Lively Inns and Taverns - Unconfirmed Landlord - Compatible
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More Village Animals - Unconfirmed Morskom Estate - Uncompatible, the terrain gets all messed up and the new shop clips with the Dawnstar town hall, looked into patching this but found it difficult to fix the terrain height. Will contact mod author and ask for help soon. My Own Solitude Outskirts Improvements - Should be compatible (but may have slight conflict (unconfirmed) with Khajiit Caravan)
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No NPC Greeting - Compatible [size=12][HIGHLY RECOMMENDED][/size] No Snow Under the Roof - Compatible with PatchPatch in File section Northern Cardinal - Compatible Requires Compatibility patch
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Open Cities - Not compatible
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Palaces and Castles Enhanced - The Royal Blue Palace - Incompatible(I had the pleasure of speaking with Sette concerning work on Holds and she/he has expressed an interest in helping me out) Perseids Inns and Taverns Realistic Room Rental Enhanced - Semi-Compatible (Use Basic version only. Enhanced version not compatible) Pirates of Skyrim The Northern Cardinal under the Black Flag - Compatible Requires Compatibility Patch Populated Towns and Cities - Unconfirmed Proudspire Manor TNF - Unconfirmed Provincial Courier Service - Should be compatible
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Real Roads - Should be compatible Realistic Needs and Diseases - compatible Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Compatible Relighting Skyrim - Unconfirmed Requiem - Compatible RS children - Unconfirmed
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Serenity player house ship - Unconfirmed Sewers of skyrim 4 - Not compatible Skyfalls & SkyMills - Should be compatible Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Compatible Skyrim Romance Mod - Not compatible Skyrim Flora Overhaul - Compatible Requires Compatibility patchPatch in File section Skyrim Frontier Fortress - compatible although city names are duplicated. Use modular version. Should not have any problems beyond that. Skyrim Wayshrines Immersive Fast Travel (SWIFT) - Unconfirmed SkyTest - Unconfirmed SMIM Static Mesh Improvement Mod - Should be compatible Summerset Isle - Should be compatible
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Tamriel Reloaded HD - Compatible Tamriel Reloaded Grasses Plants Shrubs - Unconfirmed Tamriel Reloaded Interiors - Compatible Tamriel Reloaded Mountains and Rocks - Unconfirmed Tamriel Reloaded Textures and Parallax - Unconfirmed Tamriel Reloaded Trees - Unconfirmed The Forgotten City - Should be compatible The Great Forest of Whiterun Hold - Unconfirmed The Notice Board - Compatible with PatchPatch in File section The Ordinary Women - Unconfirmed The People of Skyrim - Compatible(TPOS author has noted HOLDS as being compatible) The Roleplaying Overhaul - Unconfirmed The Women of Skyrim - Unconfirmed Touring Carriages - Unconfirmed Tower of the Wolf - Semi-Compatible (had missing texture for a chessboard, but it's not something critical)
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Ultimate Follower Overhaul - Compatible with PatchPatch in File section Undeath - Compatible Unofficial Patches (USKP, UDGP, UHFP, UDBP) - Not compatible (If you have a mod that still depends on one of these, I would highly recommend using the USLEEP Swap Masters Script to update them) USLEEP (Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch) - Compatible with Patch
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Vlindrel Hall TNF - Unconfirmed
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Winter is Coming - Compatible(Cloaks meshes and textures are needed for Holds to function) Wyrmstooth - Should be compatible
Overall Lighting Mods (regarding those who use mods to enhance vanilla lighting): Reported issues regarding darker interiors due to lack of candles. May affect those using darker ENBs. Vanilla users should find lighting adequate.
Armor, Clothes and Weapon Mods: I haven't altered the outfits of the guards, though I have altered Irileth's outfit, so there may be a slight incompatibility there.
Companions: Anna - Compatible with PatchPatch in File section Arissa - Compatible with PatchPatch in File section Hoth - Compatible Inigo - Compatible Rigmor of Bruma - Compatible with PatchPatch in File section Sofia - Compatible Valfar - Compatible Vilja - Should be compatible (may be issue with NPC Wilbert)
Inns and Taverns Settlement Inn's like Riverwood and Ivarstead should be compatible, but the Inn's in Dawnstar and Falkreath etc. have been changed. Will create a patch if needed.
Texture mods Compatible (Retexture mods shouldn't be incompatible.)
NOTE: All mods marked 'Should be Compatible' have not been tested or confirmed. Please let me know your findings.
Possible patches may be planned/possible for the above listed. I will look into compatibility patching once I've finished making the modular versions of Holds.
Installation/Troubleshooting:-
TurinTurabar wrote: Is this NMM compatible?
NMM usually handles large files rather poorly and can be stuck at finishing 2GB download/installing a file of that size. I'd recommend to download the main files manually, drop them into your Skyrim folder and just unpack there. And you'll need to pick and choose compatibility patches manually anyway, there is no fomod installer there. ~ almugavar
For other important notes, please read the Stickies.
Extensible Follower Framework(EFF) - Unconfirmed SkyBirds - Unconfirmed Birds of Skyrim - Unconfirmed Gildergreen Regrown - Should be compatible Moon and Star - Should be compatible
So, I'm pretty sure that it's incompatible since it almost changes the whole city, but what about "Solitude Reborn" (or "TRUE City", though that one's just an older version of the first as it seems...)? Also on that matter, what about "SNOW City" and "SKY City". Though they both are pretty bugged and/or feel incomplete, some may still use them (I've still got Sky City since I don't want to start a new save... again). Also, what about mods that add more trees to cities to make them look friendlier (in my case "Beautiful Whiterun" and "Towns and Villages Enhanced - Riften" )? If there needs to be a Patch for JK's mods, these will probably be incompatible too, right? Last, what about "Real Estate"? It adds tons of signs to the cities (in front of the houses), and I dont know how much your mod alters those areas... Thanks for your answer! If I ever find myself with enough time to check some of these out myself, I will!
Edit: Colored the mod names yellow (unconfirmed) and inserted links to their respective nexus sites.
Out of Solitude Reborn, True City, and Complete Solitude - Solitude Reborn is the most complete and recently updated. It adds it's own Massive Sewer System including a Thieves guild section, A Treasury Vault, a College of Whispers, and Special patches for JK's and the Dawn of series along with a replacer patch of it's own for the Solitude Bathhouse. However, since it is technically abandoned at this point the only thing to keep would be those main features.
Most of the architectural changes should go in favor of Holds, but I think it could definitely be done as most of the new NPC's live in the new section it adds. All of the other stuff could be stripped out if needed.
Bijin All-in-one pack seems to be incompatible with Holds only if Holds and it's patches are placed on the bottom of the load order. When I use LOOT to organize my load order, they work together.
is intersting npc mod compatible with yours?? because he says :mods that make very extensive edits to vanilla interiors and exteriors in the towns and cities ( as in, rearranges them a lot) are bound to be at severe odds with INPC. This includes most town and city overhauls especially if they also edit the vanilla inns. Exterior edits to these same locations will play along to a certain degree. INPC uses some vanilla objects such as furniture and if these are disabled or moved by the other mod, you can expect some minor or not so minor issues.
fadz123 is intersting npc mod compatible with yours?? because he says :mods that make very extensive edits to vanilla interiors and exteriors in the towns and cities ( as in, rearranges them a lot) are bound to be at severe odds with INPC. This includes most town and city overhauls especially if they also edit the vanilla inns. Exterior edits to these same locations will play along to a certain degree. INPC uses some vanilla objects such as furniture and if these are disabled or moved by the other mod, you can expect some minor or not so minor issues.
There has already been quite a lot of debate over that. I won't start anything here. basically the worst you will have would be NPC's walking into walls and stopping to re-adjust their ai path. Nothing game breaking. A patch may be coming from the iNPC author possibly at some point, but no ETA was given. You can always just try it and report your findings.
What about Arthmoor's village mods? For Etac and JK I suggest you talk with Stryker, the creator of the patches to make all those mods work together (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/65855/).
So, I just opened up Solitude Reborn and Holds in CK and it seems as if they are heavily incompatible... Like there are doors hovering in the air and their houses completely missing and grass/cobblestone mixing up with flickering textures. Also some wall end up in the nothing as it seems (though maybe that's normal since you might not be able to see it???). So yeah, if anyone knows how to create a patch for that, I'd be very thankful if he/she did so... I'm pretty sure I can't do that myself...
Just an FYI, DynDoLod does weird things with this. I'm sure it could be fixed within DynDoLod somehow, but I am new using that particular LOD mod. I went to Whiterun today and the pretty bridge and guard stations, walls, etc had doubles that were less impressive texture wise and a bit off spatially from the original. I simply disabled and marked for delete. Tedious but the least I could do since I cannot follow directions. I loaded my saved game after installing. I had JUST gotten to Iverstead for the bajillionth time. I just could not choose between Hadvar and Ralof any more! Too sad. Anyways! Like I said, just an FYI, and if anyone has DynDoLod as well as this and started a new game can likely either confirm that it's because of the loaded save or not.
Ok, new information: it seems CK messees up the loadorder, so I just booted up my save with holds loaded before solitude reborn and here we go: the full city extension seems to be available. Also, college of whispers and sewers seem to work fine - mostly, though the issues with a sewer entrance don't seem to be Holds' fault. Biggest issue yet: That bakery at the marketplace seems to block 2 entrances to SR buildings. The Ghost Sea Arcaneum (a book store?) is fully blocked (wall in front of door), another building is still accessible with a pillar in front of the door (can still activate door around pillar, or just disable pillar, which seems fine to me (no walls seem to go missing and buildings don't look weird). Note: I did not yet check the city outsides (meaning the buildings in front of the entrance! (//TODO )
Also, I checked with Beautiful Whiterun and at first glance, all is fine. Well at least if you don't care if trees sprout from your bank's roof. But that was about everything I could see just like that. Which is less conflict than Breezehome fully upgradeable alone where more trees were in bad locations, but all could be disabled. Also this basically means that BFU is pretty much confirmed working for me (only major exterior changes are the garden and the balcony which seem to be fine). Note here too: Did not check outsides either, but Beautiful Whiterun should stay inside the city I think.
Hope I could help the list.
Also going to check with my changes in Riften soon, if I manage to find some spare time.
€dit: Riften is working fine on first glance. Walked around town, but as it seems, most of your changes are in the docks area and not inside the city itself.
But then I checked Solitude entry area and its a total mess. 2 stairs inside each other leading to the city gate and the buildings all inside each other (until the tunnel entrance, about there downwards, only your buildings are there, Solitude Reborn doesn't go that far down the hill). Plus, there is dirt clipping through the stairs and floor in some places. But I'm not sure whether this is because of SR or something else.
I'll probably go and have another look at the ck if I manage to get the load order right (LOOT seems to have a feature for that). Maybe I can fix some smaller stuff like the market area, and then I'll try to do the entrance somehow...
Another edit: ok, ck is pretty hard to navigate and also all the triggers are kind of irritating. I guess there is a way to hide them, but I really don't know that much about CK. Also, in front of the city, the area looks way different from ingame. I probably loaded the wrong cell/location and only see the lods...
You say that CRF needs a patch, but I don't see one in the file you have.
Also I think Requiem should be changed to "Semi-Compatible, possibly unbalancing." I don't foresee any huge conflicts, just differences in intentions. The main thing that a Requiem patch will need to do is add the relevant perks to NPCs and move merchant chests into their respective buildings and give those chests master locks. Also it would need to make sure that the new merchants and Guards are using the correct "Unleveled Lists" that Requiem creates, though I'm pretty sure that if you just pointed to a vanilla leveled list Requiem's SkyProc can point it to the correct "unleveled list"
Hidden hideouts of Skyrim should be added. Especially the city edition. I use it in all my playthroughs, so I'll report back once I've had some time to test it out.
Im looking to build a Dark Fantasy type skyrim and very eager to add this to my mod list. will someone help me make The Honered Dead compatible with this mod. Please
I have tested this with the Dawn of Windhelm and I can say that they are pretty compatible, the only things that stood out for me were some barrels where you enter the docks is clipping with a merchant stall and a bit of building that hangs out by the entrance to the area added by this mod, the latter I just roleplayed as it's an old city, some stuff is out of whack, and the former I just used the console to disable some barrels.. But no ctds or anything like that. Also I'd like to add that this mod doesn't really touch Markarth so most Markarth mods are still compatible.
I haven't noticed any issues with summerset isles mod and the skyrim immersive creatures mod and wyrmstooth, since it seems like you're not fully sure if they're compatible. Don't feel too intimidated, I'm sure you'll have maximum compatibility soon enough
Bijin All-In-One-2016 uses all VANILLA\USLEEP Packages for their routines. That is why it works if its placed above all city files. Obviously, City Overhaul overhauls ALL Npc packages, not just the ones affecting Bijin AIO. I can make versions of Bijin AIO compatible with HtCO, but since this mod is in a very early stage, and likely requires a fair bit of work still, I would like to wait before doing any compatibility files. When it gets closer(a lot) to V 1.0, I could definitely make the required files.
Just tested it and there are clipping issues and very badly miss placed trees. No CTD or ILS only seems to be aesthetic things, some people might not want trees growing out of their stone walkways.
Just tested this with ETAC and they are for the most part not compatible. If using the modular version of etac Dragon Bridge (and Dragon Bridge South), Riverwood, Kynesgrove, Darkwater Crossing, and the Solstheim towns are all safe and can be used, every other town will have major clipping and redundant buildings.
I instaled JK's Skyrim and tried using it along with this mod, there a few little issues such as buildings fusioned in a weird structure, such a tavern in Windhelm fused with some kind of garden and other things; i'll report more of these kind of issues in the future, in the meantime i'll just wait for a patch :v
I'm going to have to do more serious testing to make sure, but it seems that the Dawn of Skyrim collection meshes with Holds incredibly nicely, save for a few small clipping issues here and there, particularly in Windhelm. However, they are very minor and the fact that the Dawn of series doesn't touch Windhelm or Falkreath means that these two compliment each other spectacularly.
I can't put holds and patches on the bottom without it causing Bijin NPCs to fail. Fresh install...dealbreaker though, going to jk's till holds doesnt mess with npc's or said altering mods.
Enhanced Lighting and FX doesn't seem to be compatible with Falkreath, as the city is dark at night with many doors and guards (including the entrance to the inn) is complete completely in pitch black shadows, likely due to the tall and surrounding walls of the city. The interior of the Blood Skull inn is also too dark as the light-sources don't illuminate the entire inn, leaving majority of it in complete darkness (even in the day time, as there are no windows).
It is worth noting that I use Climates of Tameriel, and I had even reinstalled that mod with the Nexus Mod Manager, experimenting on the darkness of night and warmness/coldness of interiors settings, and with had no noticeable effect at all. I had even removed the Midgardr ENB I was using, with no change again.
However, once I've unplugged ELFX from my load order, area brightened up with the vanilla lighting. My suggestion would be to include more natural lighting for interiors and place small light-sources near each door into buildings, as well as distributing torches to all guards so they don't look like they are assassin's waiting in the shadows . (ELFX works well with Whiterun, as well as any other location in my game, where even the dungeons aren't as dark as Falkreath. As for the other places that"Holds" effect, I haven't yet got the opportunity to visit.) Perhaps this mod might benefit from a patch?
Please take this constructive criticism. I think you've done fantastic job overall with all the effort that has gone into this project.
Complete Fast Travel Overhaul it's not compatible, take carriage to Falkreath will stuck in a no man city, also Dawnstar, but go to Dawnstar would CTD after a few second.
Love this mod! So far, no ctds, but, just a couple issues noted. Windows in Falkreath (guard area? They are small and on the walls) have no texture...show up purple. One door in Dawnstar (to the left of the "royal" grounds entrance when you first enter the city) door mesh is missing, I believe...just a frame for the door showing up. Skymills and Skyfalls is not compatible...makes the huge stone arch and windmill in Solitude vanish. Hopefully a patch can be made for this. I just can't get over how much better Falkreath is with this...makes the town awesome. I love my Skymills, but I will uninstall it for this! Thank you for this mod, endorsed.
Open Civil War - Unconfirmed Point the Way - Unconfirmed Immersive road - Unconfirmed Sands of time - MAY cause CTDs Unofficial Skyrim City Patch - Cause CTDs
Is the game compatible with Open Civil War? (which allows for all other hold battles, it is similar in nature to the civil war overhall but isnt the same
Populated Towns and Cities - I know this is on the list but this is showing as "Unconfirmed". Falkreath is a great example. It's not all Towns though and to be honest so far Falkreath is the only one that doesn't seem to work properly. You get the odd person here and there but not the same population as say Whiterun.
Simply Knock (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73236) - Any buildings modified by Holds in Towns go straight to lock picking. Again, Falkreath has a couple of examples - Crispy Crumb Bakery Butchers (though I can't remember the name) Any house labelled "family home"
Nothing was possible without Sheson's Dyndolod. After three month of test with " Holds the city Overhaul " by Galandil ". This great mod , Work fine with with "Navies of Skyrim". No Problem in Solitude juste overwrite Tower of the lighthouse in front of the imperial port. Also with help of Dyndolod.
its really wonderful result.
also with Navies of Skyrim , i use this over mod in my games , The Haven From The Cold And Dark by NevahNevah, Sea spirit (Beast of Tamriel) , Northern Towns (full), Edoras, Legendary city Tes Arena( all) , Jk Dragon Bridge, Jk Morthal, Jk Markhath, Mithryn City and "Spring Forest overhaul".
ok with Drakend no conflit with boat in ice. No problem also with Gray Cowl Nocturnal. ( all in same games )
ENB Antique Dragon.
its funny solution for go to visit Navie and Dawnstar viking Port by Holds. Script free ship sailing by ElstarTomas http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/67727/?
For Spring Forest Overhaul , really Important , Holds in down after Spring , other problem with coast and tree, floating result.
Tamriel tree conflit with tree of SFO , overwrite Holds with lod and billoborad of SFO .
also i use "Wolves of Talos" with Bobs Armory Iron and Steel replacers , overhaul viking Guards , install no to mod in holds after ok. work fine. Perhaps same Helmet ? But no problem.
goods also with "the Kids are Alright "( full ), Spice of Life Orc houses, alternative start ( "Skyrim Unbound" and "PrinceShroob Main Quest Delayer" by PrinceShroob)
Nordic Carving - Great Portal of Dragonsreach by MikeyNexus +Nordic Carving - Wallbaskets by Mikey Nexus. The Ruins Legendary, Paradise City for Vanilla Skyrim - Great Trees for Cities by sa547." Immersive amazing Folllowers" +FollowerLivePackage by oldc. ( Utopium utility all) Player home Aemer's Refuge by LeanWolf and masterofshadows, Bathing Beautiful luxury suit, Mona Alta, The Retreat Northern Star - revisited, Longhouse Viking by Schwarky ,Solstice Castle by Lazz, Ayled Sanctuary, Ayled Palace, Ayled Citadel, Moonstone castle, Manor Dwemer. Rhental mods textures All. ( Fusher and And many other mods. But Mods for Solstheim its not the problem for Holds today.
I use also many other mods NPC And Followers. totals mods 1747, Problem Report. Just a problem, the patch for immersive Wench is outdated, creator has changed his masters, the patch is incompatible. Other problem nothing patch For Bijin AIO 2016_SV( with Serana and Valerica ) just for Legendary without Serana and Valerica.
good also with NOG NPC (ALL ), Females of Riverwood by Hyde606, Projet SNNR - Skyrim Personne PNJ Replacer par SRX_timocmbux But Problem in Winterhold collage with some wife NPC inside .
I believe Enhanced Landscapes is incompatible. Adds Rock formations outside Solitude Walkway and adds trees to the Tamriel Worldspace where the child worlds are and causes Lod textures to display inside the child worlds.
I was wondering something: this mod has a lot of others that can be made compatible with it via patch, Legacy of The Dragonborn included, and that mod has pretty much the same situation going for it. Does this mean that if I kept Holds-patched LoTD between Holds itself and its own patched compatible mods, I could make them second hand compatible with Holds itself?
Compatibility (104 comments)
Credit goes to all those who have posted their findings so far. Thankyou for your efforts.
Please feel free to post any other compatibility findings or questions here.
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AceeQ's Enhanced Landscapes - Semi-Compatible (Minor, cosmetic issues, trees clip through some houses in such-and-such settlement)
Aemer's Refuge - Should be compatible
Alternate Start Live Another Life - Compatible Requires compatibility patch
Animallica - Unconfirmed
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Beyond Reach - Should be compatible
Bijin Packs (All-in-one 2016, Warmaidens, Wives, NPCs) - Should be compatible Bijin All-in-one pack seems to be incompatible with Holds only if Holds and it's patches are placed on the bottom of the load order. When I use LOOT to organize my load order, they work together.
Books of Skyrim - Not compatible (It will for now clip with the Chapel of Akatosh)
Breezehome Fully Upgradable - Unconfirmed
BreezehomeTNF - Unconfirmed
BreezehomeTNF (Elianora's Flavour) - Unconfirmed
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Cannabis Skyrim - Not compatible
Civil War Overhaul - Not compatible
Complete Fast Travel Overhaul - Unconfirmed
Civil War Repairs - Should be compatible
Cutting Room Floor - Compatible Requires compatibility patch
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Dawn of Skyrim Collection - Unconfirmed
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ELE Lite - Unconfirmed
Enhanced Landscapes - Unconfirmed
Enhanced Lights and FX - Unconfirmed
ETAC (Expanded Towns and Cities) - Unconfirmed
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Falskaar - Compatible Requires Compatibility patch
Farmhouse Chimneys - Should be compatible
Frostfall - Compatible with Patch Patch in File section
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Gray Cowl of Nocturnal - Should be compatible
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Hearthfire Extended - Unconfirmed
Helgen Reborn - Compatible with Patch Patch in File section
Hjerim TNF - Unconfirmed
Holidays - Compatible with patch
Honeyside TNF - Unconfirmed
Horses On Patrol (Vanilla) - Unconfirmed (Might be incompatible)
Horses Renewal (non HDT replacer version 2.0) - Compatible (unconfirmed about later non-replacer versions, as they add a stable near Whiterun)
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Immersive Amazing Follower Tweaks - Unconfirmed
Immersive Citizens - Kind of Compatible Use the Immersive Citizens Lite version. It will work alongside Holds, though the mod author does have some concern that there may be some slight problems in area's with too many NPC's. Keep that in mind if your also using interesting NPC's, Inconsequential NPC's, etc...
Immersive College of Winterhold - Should be compatible
Immersive Laundry - Should be compatible
Immersive Patrols - Should be compatible
Immersive Wenches - Unconfirmed
Inconsequential NPC's - Should be compatible
iNeed - Compatible
Inside Out - Compatible (Whiterun, Solitude, Windhelm, Riften - all checked)
Interesting NPC's - Compatible with Patch [size=12][HIGHLY RECOMMENDED][/size] Patch in File section
It Beats for Her - Unconfirmed
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JK's Skyrim - Unconfirmed (I have spoken with JK and he has given me permission to create a compatibility patch)
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Lanterns of Skyrim - Not compatible
Legacy of the Dragonborn - Not compatible (Same as Books of Skyrim, also visual bugs and CTDs reported. IceCreamAssassin will create a patch some time in the future.)
Legendary Cities Tes Arena Skyrim Frontier Fortress - Semi-Compatible (Some duplicates reported but otherwise fine (Black Moor and North Keep)
Lively Inns and Taverns - Unconfirmed
Landlord - Compatible
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More Village Animals - Unconfirmed
Morskom Estate - Uncompatible, the terrain gets all messed up and the new shop clips with the Dawnstar town hall, looked into patching this but found it difficult to fix the terrain height. Will contact mod author and ask for help soon.
My Own Solitude Outskirts Improvements - Should be compatible (but may have slight conflict (unconfirmed) with Khajiit Caravan)
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No NPC Greeting - Compatible [size=12][HIGHLY RECOMMENDED][/size]
No Snow Under the Roof - Compatible with Patch Patch in File section
Northern Cardinal - Compatible Requires Compatibility patch
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Open Cities - Not compatible
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Palaces and Castles Enhanced - The Royal Blue Palace - Incompatible (I had the pleasure of speaking with Sette concerning work on Holds and she/he has expressed an interest in helping me out)
Perseids Inns and Taverns Realistic Room Rental Enhanced - Semi-Compatible (Use Basic version only. Enhanced version not compatible)
Pirates of Skyrim The Northern Cardinal under the Black Flag - Compatible Requires Compatibility Patch
Populated Towns and Cities - Unconfirmed
Proudspire Manor TNF - Unconfirmed
Provincial Courier Service - Should be compatible
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Real Roads - Should be compatible
Realistic Needs and Diseases - compatible
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Compatible
Relighting Skyrim - Unconfirmed
Requiem - Compatible
RS children - Unconfirmed
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Serenity player house ship - Unconfirmed
Sewers of skyrim 4 - Not compatible
Skyfalls & SkyMills - Should be compatible
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Compatible
Skyrim Romance Mod - Not compatible
Skyrim Flora Overhaul - Compatible Requires Compatibility patch Patch in File section
Skyrim Frontier Fortress - compatible although city names are duplicated. Use modular version. Should not have any problems beyond that.
Skyrim Wayshrines Immersive Fast Travel (SWIFT) - Unconfirmed
SkyTest - Unconfirmed
SMIM Static Mesh Improvement Mod - Should be compatible
Summerset Isle - Should be compatible
-T-
Tamriel Reloaded HD - Compatible
Tamriel Reloaded Grasses Plants Shrubs - Unconfirmed
Tamriel Reloaded Interiors - Compatible
Tamriel Reloaded Mountains and Rocks - Unconfirmed
Tamriel Reloaded Textures and Parallax - Unconfirmed
Tamriel Reloaded Trees - Unconfirmed
The Forgotten City - Should be compatible
The Great Forest of Whiterun Hold - Unconfirmed
The Notice Board - Compatible with Patch Patch in File section
The Ordinary Women - Unconfirmed
The People of Skyrim - Compatible (TPOS author has noted HOLDS as being compatible)
The Roleplaying Overhaul - Unconfirmed
The Women of Skyrim - Unconfirmed
Touring Carriages - Unconfirmed
Tower of the Wolf - Semi-Compatible (had missing texture for a chessboard, but it's not something critical)
-U-
Ultimate Follower Overhaul - Compatible with Patch Patch in File section
Undeath - Compatible
Unofficial Patches (USKP, UDGP, UHFP, UDBP) - Not compatible (If you have a mod that still depends on one of these, I would highly recommend using the USLEEP Swap Masters Script to update them)
USLEEP (Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch) - Compatible with Patch
-V-
Vlindrel Hall TNF - Unconfirmed
-W-
Winter is Coming - Compatible (Cloaks meshes and textures are needed for Holds to function)
Wyrmstooth - Should be compatible
Overall
Lighting Mods (regarding those who use mods to enhance vanilla lighting):
Reported issues regarding darker interiors due to lack of candles. May affect those using darker ENBs. Vanilla users should find lighting adequate.
Armor, Clothes and Weapon Mods:
I haven't altered the outfits of the guards, though I have altered Irileth's outfit, so there may be a slight incompatibility there.
Companions:
Anna - Compatible with Patch Patch in File section
Arissa - Compatible with Patch Patch in File section
Hoth - Compatible
Inigo - Compatible
Rigmor of Bruma - Compatible with Patch Patch in File section
Sofia - Compatible
Valfar - Compatible
Vilja - Should be compatible (may be issue with NPC Wilbert)
Inns and Taverns
Settlement Inn's like Riverwood and Ivarstead should be compatible, but the Inn's in Dawnstar and Falkreath etc. have been changed. Will create a patch if needed.
Texture mods Compatible (Retexture mods shouldn't be incompatible.)
NOTE:
All mods marked 'Should be Compatible' have not been tested or confirmed. Please let me know your findings.
Possible patches may be planned/possible for the above listed.
I will look into compatibility patching once I've finished making the modular versions of Holds.
Installation/Troubleshooting:-
For other important notes, please read the Stickies.
Thankyou.
Dragon Combat Overhaul - Should be compatible
Deadly Dragons - Should be compatible
Possible other mods to add to the list:
Extensible Follower Framework(EFF) - Unconfirmed
SkyBirds - Unconfirmed
Birds of Skyrim - Unconfirmed
Gildergreen Regrown - Should be compatible
Moon and Star - Should be compatible
Also on that matter, what about "SNOW City" and "SKY City". Though they both are pretty bugged and/or feel incomplete, some may still use them (I've still got Sky City since I don't want to start a new save... again).
Also, what about mods that add more trees to cities to make them look friendlier (in my case "Beautiful Whiterun" and "Towns and Villages Enhanced - Riften" )? If there needs to be a Patch for JK's mods, these will probably be incompatible too, right?
Last, what about "Real Estate"? It adds tons of signs to the cities (in front of the houses), and I dont know how much your mod alters those areas...
Thanks for your answer!
If I ever find myself with enough time to check some of these out myself, I will!
Edit: Colored the mod names yellow (unconfirmed) and inserted links to their respective nexus sites.
Most of the architectural changes should go in favor of Holds, but I think it could definitely be done as most of the new NPC's live in the new section it adds. All of the other stuff could be stripped out if needed.
Followers Goes on a Trip - Unconfirmed
This mod makes followers roam around Skyrim and visit cities, so I'm thinking it might not be compatible with the new world spaces of Falkreath etc.
Death Alternative
Guild Outposts
Landlord
Noticeboard
Sutvaka Fortified Estate
Heljarchen Farm
Holidays
Darkbrotherhood Reborn
Black Horse courier
Whistling Mine
and just with Legendary cities TES arena, do I turn off the blackmoor and North Keep?
There has already been quite a lot of debate over that. I won't start anything here. basically the worst you will have would be NPC's walking into walls and stopping to re-adjust their ai path. Nothing game breaking. A patch may be coming from the iNPC author possibly at some point, but no ETA was given. You can always just try it and report your findings.
So yeah, if anyone knows how to create a patch for that, I'd be very thankful if he/she did so... I'm pretty sure I can't do that myself...
Note: I did not yet check the city outsides (meaning the buildings in front of the entrance! (//TODO
Also, I checked with Beautiful Whiterun and at first glance, all is fine. Well at least if you don't care if trees sprout from your bank's roof. But that was about everything I could see just like that. Which is less conflict than Breezehome fully upgradeable alone where more trees were in bad locations, but all could be disabled. Also this basically means that BFU is pretty much confirmed working for me (only major exterior changes are the garden and the balcony which seem to be fine).
Note here too: Did not check outsides either, but Beautiful Whiterun should stay inside the city I think.
Hope I could help the list.
Also going to check with my changes in Riften soon, if I manage to find some spare time.€dit:
Riften is working fine on first glance. Walked around town, but as it seems, most of your changes are in the docks area and not inside the city itself.
But then I checked Solitude entry area and its a total mess.
2 stairs inside each other leading to the city gate and the buildings all inside each other (until the tunnel entrance, about there downwards, only your buildings are there, Solitude Reborn doesn't go that far down the hill). Plus, there is dirt clipping through the stairs and floor in some places. But I'm not sure whether this is because of SR or something else.
I'll probably go and have another look at the ck if I manage to get the load order right (LOOT seems to have a feature for that). Maybe I can fix some smaller stuff like the market area, and then I'll try to do the entrance somehow...
Another edit: ok, ck is pretty hard to navigate and also all the triggers are kind of irritating. I guess there is a way to hide them, but I really don't know that much about CK. Also, in front of the city, the area looks way different from ingame. I probably loaded the wrong cell/location and only see the lods...
Also I think Requiem should be changed to "Semi-Compatible, possibly unbalancing." I don't foresee any huge conflicts, just differences in intentions. The main thing that a Requiem patch will need to do is add the relevant perks to NPCs and move merchant chests into their respective buildings and give those chests master locks.
Also it would need to make sure that the new merchants and Guards are using the correct "Unleveled Lists" that Requiem creates, though I'm pretty sure that if you just pointed to a vanilla leveled list Requiem's SkyProc can point it to the correct "unleveled list"
and very eager to add this to my mod list. will someone help me
make The Honered Dead compatible with this mod. Please
Just tested it and there are clipping issues and very badly miss placed trees.
No CTD or ILS only seems to be aesthetic things, some people might not want trees growing out of their stone walkways.
As of now the worst I've seen is in Solitude.
It is worth noting that I use Climates of Tameriel, and I had even reinstalled that mod with the Nexus Mod Manager, experimenting on the darkness of night and warmness/coldness of interiors settings, and with had no noticeable effect at all. I had even removed the Midgardr ENB I was using, with no change again.
However, once I've unplugged ELFX from my load order, area brightened up with the vanilla lighting. My suggestion would be to include more natural lighting for interiors and place small light-sources near each door into buildings, as well as distributing torches to all guards so they don't look like they are assassin's waiting in the shadows
Please take this constructive criticism. I think you've done fantastic job overall with all the effort that has gone into this project.
it's not compatible, take carriage to Falkreath will stuck in a no man city, also Dawnstar, but go to Dawnstar would CTD after a few second.
The new JK's Lite Towns Beta conflicts in Winterhold.
Conflicts in Dawnstar with Imperial Mail mod and SPERG (placement of Imperial Mail signs, placement of SPERG's Inconspicuous Chest).
Point the Way - Unconfirmed
Immersive road - Unconfirmed
Sands of time - MAY cause CTDs
Unofficial Skyrim City Patch - Cause CTDs
It is not compatible: Navmeshes are broken in the main road at the village when use both mods.
Thanks in advance
It's not all Towns though and to be honest so far Falkreath is the only one that doesn't seem to work properly. You get the odd person here and there but not the same population as say Whiterun.
Simply Knock (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73236) - Any buildings modified by Holds in Towns go straight to lock picking. Again, Falkreath has a couple of examples -
Crispy Crumb Bakery
Butchers (though I can't remember the name)
Any house labelled "family home"
Whiterun - The buildings behind Breezehome
After three month of test with " Holds the city Overhaul " by Galandil ".
This great mod , Work fine with with "Navies of Skyrim". No Problem in Solitude juste overwrite
Tower of the lighthouse in front of the imperial port.
Also with help of Dyndolod.
its really wonderful result.
also with Navies of Skyrim , i use this over mod in my games , The Haven From The Cold And Dark by NevahNevah, Sea spirit (Beast of Tamriel) , Northern Towns (full), Edoras, Legendary city Tes Arena( all) , Jk Dragon Bridge, Jk Morthal, Jk Markhath, Mithryn City and "Spring Forest overhaul".
ok with Drakend no conflit with boat in ice. No problem also with Gray Cowl Nocturnal. ( all in same games )
ENB Antique Dragon.
its funny solution for go to visit Navie and Dawnstar viking Port by Holds.
Script free ship sailing by ElstarTomas
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/67727/?
For Spring Forest Overhaul , really Important , Holds in down after Spring , other problem with coast and tree, floating result.
Tamriel tree conflit with tree of SFO , overwrite Holds with lod and billoborad of SFO .
also i use "Wolves of Talos" with Bobs Armory Iron and Steel replacers , overhaul viking Guards , install no to mod in holds after ok. work fine.
Perhaps same Helmet ? But no problem.
goods also with "the Kids are Alright "( full ), Spice of Life Orc houses, alternative start ( "Skyrim Unbound" and "PrinceShroob Main Quest Delayer" by PrinceShroob)
Nordic Carving - Great Portal of Dragonsreach by MikeyNexus +Nordic Carving - Wallbaskets by Mikey Nexus. The Ruins Legendary, Paradise City for Vanilla Skyrim - Great Trees for Cities by sa547." Immersive amazing Folllowers" +FollowerLivePackage by oldc. ( Utopium utility all)
Player home
Aemer's Refuge by LeanWolf and masterofshadows, Bathing Beautiful luxury suit, Mona Alta, The Retreat Northern Star - revisited, Longhouse Viking by Schwarky ,Solstice Castle by Lazz, Ayled Sanctuary, Ayled Palace, Ayled Citadel, Moonstone castle, Manor Dwemer.
Rhental mods textures All. ( Fusher and
And many other mods. But Mods for Solstheim its not the problem for Holds today.
I use also many other mods NPC And Followers. totals mods 1747,
Problem Report.
Just a problem, the patch for immersive Wench is outdated, creator has changed his masters, the patch is incompatible.
Other problem nothing patch For Bijin AIO 2016_SV( with Serana and Valerica ) just for Legendary without Serana and Valerica.
good also with NOG NPC (ALL ), Females of Riverwood by Hyde606,
Projet SNNR - Skyrim Personne PNJ Replacer par SRX_timocmbux
But Problem in Winterhold collage with some wife NPC inside .
Best regards and Thanks for your Works, great art
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/77722/?