I USE NEITHER SKYRE NOR VANILLA SKYRIM, AND USE PERKUS MAXIMUS FOR MY GAME.
PerMa removes the need for weapon level list patches and is all round awesome.
If someone else wants to take this up, please go ahead and do it. Creating level lists is very tedious and im not really up for updating this. Im sorry if this pisses you off. But the current one should still work, you just wont see the latest bows being dropped.
dunno if i did something wrong(did the patch) or your prices are insane! 5656 gold for a scoped hunting bow? how's my lv 2 gunna pony up that much bread?
When you go to the shop they are 5600 Gold When you find them on people the prices are OK/normal level
You think it something to do with a mod that only adds the FORMIDs to the level lists in the game, therefore distrobuting them around the world?
If you have your bashed patch etc all run properly, then it must be another mod your using...something that tweaks shops, vendors. Are you running an overhaul? Requiem maybe? Coz i know SkyRe is fine, and PerMa does not need level list patches.
Try opening your mod list in tes5edit and look at the bows in the original mod and see what's there. maybe you'll see a mod that's tweaking them. A SkyProc Patcher would be the only thing that could change the entries in mod added weapons.
I have no idea why that is.....Newer versions of tesedit auto-apply the correct count for keywords.
Try re-downloading the patch. I know there was a slight hickup with it. ( i accidentally gave Outlaw666 the wrong file, he re-uploaded soon enough)
If not, just tweak it yourself. My personal file is a bit further than that patch, i copied over a few records from WAFR/USKP (nothing major, just keywords from WAFR and, sound decriptors from USKP)
Went through the comments and saw someone asked what is a bashed patch. My question is why.
Now I realize I should, especially as some of my MO profiles are edging up on 200 esp/esms. But why do I need a bashed patch for LLs. Is it because it messes up the planned drop frequency. I have a LL addon for TERA armors that seems to work w/o a bashed, but the drop rate might be higher than what was intended, not sure.
its because the Bashed Patch....kinda Bashes together all the Leveled lists, names, scripts, refferences, and a wholoe bunch of other stuff, thats way too overhwelming and tedious to patch yourselves.
The bahsed patch does it all automatically and makes sure that your game is balanced and compatible as possible.
If not, your game will ONLY load the last version of a particular detail. (The last mod changing something will win) This is not good.
Think "Nike" when thinking Bashed patch....."Just Do It"
The cheeky bugger told me the last one was the LAST ONE!! Grrrrr....lol
Heres the update. Spent a few......long.....tedious.....boring....days going through all the level lists i could find to keep this version as lore friendly and balanced as possible.
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Updated with all the new bows.
Added ALL level lists to the mod (Sorry I missed a couple in the last update). Only exceptions are common sense ones (Some lists are created in a way to use "only these items". Some are created to use "one of the following").
Falmer are NOT given Scoped Bows in their level list. Falmer are blind and hunt by sound. I am considering it a third party alteration.
Bows added at top end of vanilla versions in the lists. Only 1 bow of each type added to the lists. Hopefully this will keep the rarity level high.
Civil war level lists have been ignored. I figure, its a war! There's a shortage of stuff and things, so its gonna be hard to get the bits you need to make this addition to your bow when your in the middle of a war. They may still show up, but not from Civil war specific lists.
In SkyRe version, Longbow is only added in Longbow version. For obvious reasons.
Thalmore are supposed to be the big bad overlords, with higher technology and information. So I have given them scoped bows in their level lists.
The new Nord Hero Bows, do not exist in any vanilla level lists. Adding them to them will be too annoying and not "Lore Friendly" so I'm not doing it
Replaced vanilla Forsworn level list with a new dynamic list of all 3 variants
WRYE shows the vanilla .esp in red and claims that 3 DLC masters are missing. And further below it says that masters needed are Skyrim, Update and Scoped Bows.
What`s going on? I`d really like to use this on my vanilla game.
The only other way is to replace the bow chosen in the original LVLI. The original calls for 1 forsworn bow, and a random selcetion from another LVLI. I decided that i want a random chance for each bow, so replaced the 1 bow, with the new list to give random chance of 1 of all 3 bows to be given to the NPC.
If i just replace the bow, then ever single forsworn archer will ALWAYS have a scoped bow. I dont want that, these bows arnt something that eveyone will have. If you wanna change it go ahead. Just delete the new LVLI and change the refference in the Forsworn Missiles LVLI to which bow you want them to have. Then it will be mergable again
I did it like this now: I copied the new LVLI as a new record into my personal override esp and the others as overrides so I can edit them without a problem. that way I can deactivate the LL esp and still have the changes.
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I USE NEITHER SKYRE NOR VANILLA SKYRIM, AND USE PERKUS MAXIMUS FOR MY GAME.
PerMa removes the need for weapon level list patches and is all round awesome.
If someone else wants to take this up, please go ahead and do it.
Creating level lists is very tedious and im not really up for updating this. Im sorry if this pisses you off. But the current one should still work, you just wont see the latest bows being dropped.
Again, im sorry
It has been merged with the Scoped Bows mod. All bows are level listed by default!
Info: The LL- Addon version 1.5 can still be used with Scoped Bows 1.6.
OutLaw666 - Author of Scoped Bows
But you can use the addon for v1.5 also with v1.6. Only the new added "noble hunting bow" will not appear in level lists.
One comment says Perkus doesnt need leveled patches, but another says thanks for the perkus patch, so kinda confused
So i guess not needed
It was originally created for myself but decided to share my patch
Thats all i can think of. Are you using the vanilla or skyre version? If skyre, then make sure you've setup and patched reproccer correctly
When you go to the shop they are 5600 Gold
When you find them on people the prices are OK/normal level
You think it something to do with a mod that only adds the FORMIDs to the level lists in the game, therefore distrobuting them around the world?
If you have your bashed patch etc all run properly, then it must be another mod your using...something that tweaks shops, vendors. Are you running an overhaul? Requiem maybe? Coz i know SkyRe is fine, and PerMa does not need level list patches.
Try opening your mod list in tes5edit and look at the bows in the original mod and see what's there. maybe you'll see a mod that's tweaking them. A SkyProc Patcher would be the only thing that could change the entries in mod added weapons.
I notice that the Nightingale Bows have a Keyword count of 5 but only 3 Keywords.
Are some keywords missing? Or should it be only 3?
Try re-downloading the patch. I know there was a slight hickup with it. ( i accidentally gave Outlaw666 the wrong file, he re-uploaded soon enough)
If not, just tweak it yourself. My personal file is a bit further than that patch, i copied over a few records from WAFR/USKP (nothing major, just keywords from WAFR and, sound decriptors from USKP)
I too use WAFR/USKP .
Now I realize I should, especially as some of my MO profiles are edging up on 200 esp/esms. But why do I need a bashed patch for LLs. Is it because it messes up the planned drop frequency. I have a LL addon for TERA armors that seems to work w/o a bashed, but the drop rate might be higher than what was intended, not sure.
Thanks
The bahsed patch does it all automatically and makes sure that your game is balanced and compatible as possible.
If not, your game will ONLY load the last version of a particular detail. (The last mod changing something will win) This is not good.
Think "Nike" when thinking Bashed patch....."Just Do It"
UPDATE
=======
The cheeky bugger told me the last one was the LAST ONE!! Grrrrr....lol
Heres the update. Spent a few......long.....tedious.....boring....days going through all the level lists i could find to keep this version as lore friendly and balanced as possible.
-----------------------------------
Updated with all the new bows.
Added ALL level lists to the mod (Sorry I missed a couple in the last update). Only exceptions are common sense ones (Some lists are created in a way to use "only these items". Some are created to use "one of the following").
Falmer are NOT given Scoped Bows in their level list. Falmer are blind and hunt by sound. I am considering it a third party alteration.
Bows added at top end of vanilla versions in the lists. Only 1 bow of each type added to the lists. Hopefully this will keep the rarity level high.
Civil war level lists have been ignored. I figure, its a war! There's a shortage of stuff and things, so its gonna be hard to get the bits you need to make this addition to your bow when your in the middle of a war. They may still show up, but not from Civil war specific lists.
In SkyRe version, Longbow is only added in Longbow version. For obvious reasons.
Thalmore are supposed to be the big bad overlords, with higher technology and information. So I have given them scoped bows in their level lists.
The new Nord Hero Bows, do not exist in any vanilla level lists. Adding them to them will be too annoying and not "Lore Friendly" so I'm not doing it
Replaced vanilla Forsworn level list with a new dynamic list of all 3 variants
WRYE shows the vanilla .esp in red and claims that 3 DLC masters are missing. And further below it says that masters needed are Skyrim, Update and Scoped Bows.
What`s going on? I`d really like to use this on my vanilla game.
Rgds, Dan Hubert
I might be making vanilla only and dlc seperate versions
THX awfully for your attn.
Rgds, Dan Hubert
If your ok with searching tes5Edit then im sure you can hit "delete" on both lists yourself
Is there any other method to make it mergeable somehow?
If i just replace the bow, then ever single forsworn archer will ALWAYS have a scoped bow. I dont want that, these bows arnt something that eveyone will have. If you wanna change it go ahead. Just delete the new LVLI and change the refference in the Forsworn Missiles LVLI to which bow you want them to have. Then it will be mergable again
I copied the new LVLI as a new record into my personal override esp and the others as overrides so I can edit them without a problem.
that way I can deactivate the LL esp and still have the changes.