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could please run me by how to activate the quests that add the ammo types to it(I know how to rechamber them in fnvedit so thats fine)
Ive never used GECK so sorry in advance.
#1: Add Caliber.esm as a master to your mod. This is done by checking off -only- Caliber.esm and whatever the mod you're tweaking is called, and setting the mod file as the "Active" file.
#2: Add a quest named CaliberStartup{YourModName}Quest. Be sure to give your quest a unique EditorID as well - you'll need that for the scripting to come. Personally, I just make the quest name and EditorID the same.
So if your mod is called BigGameRifles, name your quest: "CaliberStartupBigGameRiflesQuest".
#3: Set this quest to start when the game starts, check to use the default script processing delay, and set a priority of 60 (or higher). When done, "OK" out of the quest - leave the script blank for now..
#4: Create a new script. Here is a sample template script you could use to activate 6.5 Grendel and 7.62x39 (be wary of spelling errors/typos. I know in reality the ammo name is "Grendel", but I think in the game assets it's referred to as "grendal", so go with whatever it is in the game files)
scn AmmoActivateQuestScript ;The name of your script, it can be anything really but I'd go with that.
begin gamemode
;this is the ammo you are activating, every ammo in Caliber has a quest that controls its distribution, by starting that quest you ;are adding the ammo to the wasteland, 6.5 Grendal and 7.62x39mm has ;been used here as an example, you can find the names ;of the Caliber quests by looking in the GECK
startquest CaliberActivateQuest65Grendal
startquest CaliberActivateQuest762x39
stopquest AmmoActivateQuest ;Stops the quest that's running this scripts as its not needed now
end ;The end
#5: Change the drop down at the top of the script editor to "Quest", and save the script.
#6: Reopen the quest you created earlier . Select your script from the script dropdown. Make sure "Start game Enabled" is still checked, along with the box for "default script processing delay", then "OK" out of the quest window.
#7: Hit save.
#8: Set your weapon(s) to use the appropriate ammo list(s), shell casings, and projectile resources. (you said you already know how to do that in FNVEdit)
You can run CaliberX without TTW if you use version 4.017 or earlier. First you'd want to download the 3.18 fomod and install it, making sure to disable or delete the plugins CalXgunrunners.esm and CalXhonesthearts.esm. Then download and install the 4.017 update, allowing it to overwrite caliber.esm that was installed by the version 3.18 fomod.
You know, that's more complicated than it needs to be. Just download and install the current version, then downgrade by installing the 4.017 update and allowing it to overwrite.
Edit: Your download history says you've already got 4.017. You don't have to do anything if that's what you have isntalled.
As for disabling the two plugin you mention, I have the Ultimate Edition so I have all the DLC which is the GRA and HH.
The backstory is that CaliberX was released before the DLCs were a thing and introduced its own version of .45 ACP (Honest Hearts later introduced "vanilla" versions of similar ammo) and alternate ammo types that were duplicated by Gunrunners Arsenal. The mentioned plugins were made mostly for folks were already using the items introduced by CaliberX, but as more DLC eventually released and most people using CaliberX weren't already using those older versions of things it made more sense to make CaliberX compatible with the vanilla DLC rather than overwrite or circumvent them.
tl;dr if you use those legacy plugins you're introducing inconsistencies and bugs into your game.
Its a great mod before any other ammo mod I see.
Cheers mate.
Apparently in the TV show, there is a reference to 7.62mm NATO rounds, but I don't know if that is canon or props department mix up. The terminology doesn't feature in anything before the show, as far as I can tell, and never shows up for 5.56mm.
The only other comment I have, is that the "Stranger44MagnumBulletProjectile" (000651D0) references a missing "projectiles\44magnumRprojectile.NIF" asset.
Fallout 3 introduced 5.56 to Fallout canon, primarily for use in weapons that wouldn't even use it in our real world (the R91 assault rifle resembles an HK-G3, chambered in .308 and the Chinese assault rifle which appears to be a mashup of a few different Kalishnikov design variants that would be chambered in 7.62x39) so the Fallout 5.56 cartridge has obviously been internationally adopted or adopted by invaders out of convenience for resupply in the field - implying availability in the US. There's a terminal in the Citadel in Fallout 3 that offers the following "The R Series of combat assault rifles was used reliably following the discontinuation of the M series in the early 21st century...", telling us that it's possible the M16 existed in the Fallout universe until the early 2000s. The existence of the service rifle in New Vegas complicates things as it appears to be a mashup of an AR-10 and an AR-15; this could be taken to imply that the M16 didn't exist, however this can be explained away if they were manufactured by the Gun Runners from an older technical package.
In the end, outside of confirmation from one of the devs of the most recent Fallout game we're left guessing as to what's canon and what's been retconned. The lack of 5.56 in Fallout 2, in isolation, is enough for me to agree that it never existed. Bethesda added it in Fallout 3 and beyond. Additionally, they also contradict Fallout 2's origin story for Jet by placing it in a vault in Fallout 4. Being more recent, Fallout 3 and 4 set the precedent for retconning (retroactively contradicting) Fallout 2.
You're spot on about the mysterious magnum projectile not working. I must have fat-fingered that extra R in there. Corrected for 4.10.1 with credit given in the change log. Thanks for pointing it out!
Now if only OP would respond to my dm haha
something more vanilla friendly in fnvedit but the names keep reverting back to default and the little (FMJ) type suffixes won't go away when
taking them out of the ammo's name.
this is how the ammo looks in fnvedit and this is how they look in game
is there some kind of form that specifically handles ammo names in the inventory somewhere, or like a script that changes it?
i also have the renaming mods at the bottom of my load order, but it looks like only some of the ammo names that seem to revert to the original CaliberX names
i've tried running the game without CaliberX, and the whole FMJ suffix in inventory thing's still happening...
guess it must be another mod messing with it :/
is there anywhere else i can talk about this so i don't clog this place up lol
would also like to know if this mod works with WAP