Jedi from the Start

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Revises the opening of the game, so that the player may begin as a Jedi Apprentice, in a seamless, lore-friendly manner. Removes all fourth wall breaking tutorial messages from the game.

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Jedi from the Start by darthbdaman is licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0
This license applies only to changes and new materials, introduced in this mod. Different conditions may apply to the base content and used assets (see credits and game EULA).

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DarthParametric - Scripts from KOTOR 1 Community Patch
JCarter426 - JC's Robe Adjustment

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Version 4.0.0
- Merged Jedi from the Start and Tutorial Remover. You may now choose not to start as a Jedi. The game will now properly conform to Jedi or Non-Jedi characters on Taris and Dantooine. Characters in save games made without the mod will no longer be prevented from becoming Jedi on Dantooine.
- Jedi can now choose to create a Double-bladed or Short Lightsaber. If you do not start as a Jedi, then you will be able to make a Double-bladed or Short Lightsaber on Dantooine. The Sabers and Crystal dropped by the Dark Jedi will now depend on what type of Lightsaber you create
- Overhauled starting equipment.
  Starting items will now be calculated after leveling up as a Jedi for the first time (or choosing not to become a Jedi), so that skill points and feats from your Jedi level are taken into account.
  Expanded the range of starting items to account for Jedi Classes, and for more feat and skill combinations. Changed distribution of items to be less class based. For instance any class will now receive an implant in the starting footlocker, if they have taken the appropriate feat, instead of just Scouts.
  Starting equipment will be split between the footlocker in the players room, and the footlocker that contains the Combat Suit after the second encounter.
- Added ability to Persuade or Force Persuade Janice to sell T3-M4 early. Most of this functionality is already in the game, and minor fixes have been made to fully accommodate it.
- Restored Bastila's Unique Lightsaber. It will drop from Brejik
- All colors of Apprentice robes will now be gained by the player on the Endar Spire
- Reworked majority of the mod for better compatibility. All relevant community patch fixes have been made compatible or forwarded, and all files have been reviewed manually.
- Renamed all added files to standardize naming and clean up override
- Converted installer from TSLPatcher to HoloPatcher
Version 3.1.3
- Applied Darth Bandon dialogue tweak to all possible versions of his dialogue
Version 3.1.2
- Lightsaber Crystal selector will no longer produce any item added/removed feedback messages, nor will it generate any log entries
- Recompiled Dantooine Training scripts to fix Extra Saber Colors Compatiblity
- Improved cameras for new Force Persuade checks, so animation can now be better seen
- Added better Camera transition to new dialogue options during opening cutscene
- Added Compatbility Patch for Taris Dueling Arena Adjustment by DarthParametric
- Adjusted dialogue files for Janice Nall and the Sith Base Receptionist to match Unofficial K1CP Tweak Pack, allowing certain persuade checks to be failed
- Altered initial Bastila Vision conversation text slightly
- Removed Tutorial Message from Vulkar Base Workbench
- Improved healing script transition into Endar Spire Starboard section
- Removed blank Trask lines from feedback log after opening cutscene
Version 3.1.1
- Fixed Force Persuade animations not playing
- Updated installer to fix module corruption in Taris Cantina
Version 3.1.0
- Added system for choosing lightsaber color from a workbench at start of game. If using JC's Extra Saber Colors for K1 those new options will also be available
- The Dantooine training sequence lightsabers can now be any saber color, including those from JC's Extra Saber Colors for K1, if you are using that mod
- Added Force Persuade animation to all the new Force Persuade checks
- The Sith Apprentice on the Endar Spire now drops Dark Jedi Apprentice robes
- Sith Receptionist Force Persuade check now appears in all appropriate dialogue branches
- Holdan's Force Persuade check now appears in all approriate dialogue branches
- Janice's Force Persuade checks now appear in all approriate dialogue branches
- Janice can now be Force Persuaded after failing the initial persuade check
- Force Persuading Janice for a refund results in minor Dark Side Points
- Bastila's dialogue in which she suggests you are Force Sensitive is now properly disabled
- Carth will no longer refer to you as a non-jedi when arriving on Dantooine
- The second door on the Endar Spire is now bashable with all weapons in all circumstances
- Replaced duplicated Zhar line with a more appropriate alternative
- Changed implementation of Carth dialogue adjustments, to prevent his dialogue from aborting if installed on top of an incompatible mod
Version 3.0.0
- Edits to Bastila, Carth, Juhani, and Bandon's dialogue have been redone. They are now fully scripted through the patcher and should be compatible with everything. The edits have been reduced to only the bare minimum needed to make the story make sense
- Added Force Persuade options for Janice, Ajuur, Holdan, and the Sith receptionist
- Added Apprentice robes from JC's Robe Adjustment mod. You get these instead of the Jedi robes from the old version. They are given instead of clothing in the starting locker. They have no defense bonus like clothing, but look like Jedi robes. They work with JC's Jedi Tailor mod. Zhar once again gives you a regular Jedi robe (now of a different color) once you finish the final trial
- The level up menu is immediately brought up after choosing a Jedi class. This is similar to the behavior of the vanilla game, and hides a game crashing bug when accessing the powers list before leveling up in your Jedi class
- Trask's Remains now disappear when fully looted. Improved positioning of Trask's corpse to prevent clipping
- Cleaned up some cutscene scripts on the Endar Spire
- The Sith Apprentice on the Endar Spire now wins the fight against the Jedi. You have to fight him with the Sith Troopers
- Player is fully healed when they enter the second section of the Endar Spire, as they are no longer invulnerable, and will likely be at 1 health. The forced level up in the vanilla game normally prevents this, but because you won't level up until after the second section, this fix prevents you from dying immediately
Version 2.2.0
- Trask's Corpse once again uses his unique appearance, but is still lootable this time
- Dantooine Training Sabers are installed into the module file instead of the override
Version 2.1.0
- Fixed compatibility with Android version
  Fixed some potential problems with NPC overhaul
  Workbench tutorials now removed for all workbenches
  Removed Ebon Hawk Nav Computer Tutorial
  Crattis Yurkal's dialogue is now edited to better conform to the story
  Kotor 1 Restoration patch now includes K1R compatible version of Crattis Yurkal's edited dialogue
Version 2.0.0
- Core Features:
  
  Rewrote entirely from scratch. All files have been re-extracted and had their edits reapplied in order to remove any unintended edits from earlier versions
  A seperate mod called "Tutorial Remover" was created from these edits, and formed the base for this new version. It can be found on Nexusmods or Deadlystream. It is almost identical to "Jedi from the Start", but does not include any of the Jedi related functionality
  The core feature set was re-evaluated, and all of the options related to clothing and appearance have been removed
  All scripts have been recompiled to ensure they are working correctly. This sorted out many bugs, including issues with training on Dantooine, and with Trasks body
  Files are now installed into Modules when possible, greatly improving compatibility
  
  Feature List:
  - Belaya, Deesra, and Zhar's dialogues have been tweaked slightly, to make them a bit more extensive and to remove unnatural transitions
  - Zhar no longer gives the player a Jedi Robe after finishing the 3rd Trial. A Jedi robe (color depends on class) can be found in the footlocker in the players room on the Endar Spire
  - Carth's dialogue on the Endar Spire no longer requires any responses, as they had become unnecessary
  - The dialogue when exiting the Taris Appartment for this first time has been trimmed slightly to remove the tutorial message
  - Rewrote Bastila's rescue dialogue to be more neutral in tone, and have a few responses to choose from
  - Security door reduced to 1 hit point for the purposes of bashing. You shouldn't have to swing at the door more than a couple times now
  - Bridge doors are now properly unlocked. You don't have to be holding a melee weapon to enter the bridge, and you don't have to be level 2 to leave.
  - Trask's corpse converted into placeable. It doesn't look exactly like Trask anymore, but it actually works, and allowed all of his item to be transferred to his body. The Advanced Medpac he gives you can be found in the room with the footlocker, the container, and the remains now.
  - The Workbench on Taris no longer has any dialogue pop-up, and immediately lets you access the upgrade screen
  - The Lightsaber Training on Dantooine has had the weapon sounds removed, so that Zhar isn't overtaking by the humming of the Lightsabers
Version 1.1.1
- Removed Workbench Tutorial Dialogue
Version 1.1
- The door to test the Security Skill is once again locked, but can now be bashed as well, if that character lacks the Security Skill
- Prepackaged Mobile version for easy installation on android devices
- Carth correctly faces the player when entering the escape pod room
- Trask's body is now above the floor
- Compatible Juhani Dialogue for Kotor 1 Restoration
- Starting Clothing is now optional, to help people having invisible player problems
Version 1.0
- Fixed cutscene height issues
- Made starting room instructions more clear.
- Fixed bugs with Trask's Corpse
- Added commoner clothing as alternate clothing option, similar to KotOR 2
- Added ceremonial robes from the endgame scenes as alternate clothing option
- You can now be a Jedi at level 2 instead of 3
- Default clothing will now be scout clothing for all classes, and council clothing is an optional file
- You no longer need to talk to the door, and it is much easier to figure out what you are supposed to do
- Fixed Carth, Bastila, and Juhani's dialogue regarding the player's base class
Version 0.9.8
- Fine tuned some changes
- Made progression more balanced
- Made process more obvious
- All Class Combinations possible
Version 0.9.7
- Added starting clothes
- Fixed outstanding issues on the Endar Spire
Version 0.9.6
- Completely removed Trask. The experience is now self directed and not bogged down by pointless dialogue.
- Integrated Optional files into new installer.
Version 0.9.5
- Separated unique clothing for each class into an optional file
- Changed Trask into a human to prep for next version
Version 0.9.4
- Cleaned up Zhar's training dialogue to remove inconsistencies and streamline the process, quickly getting you to the Juhani fight.
- Fixed some inconsistencies in Carth and Bastila's Taris dialogue
Version 0.9.3
- Definitely quashed all remaining problems. Also added cool class clothing
Version 0.9.2
- Possibly fixed problems
Version 0.9.1
- Removed various files causing problems
Version 0.9
- The story has been streamlined quite a bit. The player is already familiar with most of the things Trask introduces, as most players who use this mod will be. Most information is glossed over in no detail.
- Some redundant lines of dialogue dropped.
- Lightsaber removal now 100% works properly.
- Trask has had his power increased significantly to account for him being a Jedi Knight with a padawan.
- Fight training now works. Bastila and The Player will fight with lightsabers.
- New class selection system. Soldiers will become Guardians, Scouts; Sentinels, and Scoundrels; Consulars. This removed a lot of the forced dialogue at the beginning that was dragging down the dialogue. The story progresses quicker and makes more sense.
Version 0.8
- Remove saber works properly. (Actually it doesn't. Fixed in 0.9)
- New portrait for Trask. Based of Trask's original portrait.
- Items moved around again.
- Zhar no longer gives you 5 robes.
- Carth bug fixed itself ;)
- Player and Bastila spar with lightsabers
- Totally rescripted. Much cleaner and less invassive ;)
Version 0.7
- All dialogue rewritten.
- Items shifted around.
- Bugs fixed.
- Too much too list.

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Description

Upon starting the game, instead of Trask waking the player, you will be presented with new dialogue options to potentially select a Jedi Class.
You may choose to remain as your base class, and become a Jedi on Dantooine as normal, if you wish.

If you choose to become a Jedi, you will immediately level up, and be able to acquire your new feats and powers.
Starting equipment has been adjusted, and will be generated after this level up, allowing your new feats and skills to be accounted for.
Jedi characters are given a crystal in their footlocker, and can build a Lightsaber at the workbench. They choose its style and color there.

You then proceed through the Endar Spire sequence as normal, albeit without Trask. Out of character tutorial messages have all been removed.
Jedi characters will have a new Lightsaber duel, and recieve additional items.

Early dialogues with party members and NPC's have been adjusted to accurately reflect whether the player is a Jedi or not.
Additional Force Persuade checks have been added to many of the characters found throughout Taris.
A new path to purchase T3-M4 before completing the Swoop Race, through a Force Persuade check, has been added. This is available to non-Jedi through Persuade as well.

Upon arriving on Dantooine, the opening dialogue with the council is altered slightly.
The inital training sections, from the Jedi Code to Lightsaber construction is removed, and the player is immediately tasked to Cleanse the Tainted Grove.
After this point the game proceeds as normal, without major alterations.

If the player chooses not to become a Jedi at the start of the game, then very little changes, besides the removal of Trask and tutorial messages.
On Dantooine, a non-Jedi player will be able to construct a Double-bladed or Short Lightsaber, and choose the color of their lightsaber freely.
They will also be given an Apprentice robe after constructing a Lightsaber.

Install/Uninstall

Run the installer.exe file. If you are on Linux or Mac, appropriate HoloPatcher installers can be found on DeadlyStream.

If updating from a version from before v4.0.0, you must reinstall your game to properly uninstall the mod. You cannot install this mod on top of an old version.
You must start a new game after updating to this version. The mod has been substantially reworked.

See the docs folder for more information.

Compatibility

Most mods should be compatible, unless they make major edits to the Endar Spire, Taris NPC dialogue, or Dantooine Jedi Training.

Fully compatible with KotOR 1 Community Patch. Install Jedi from the Start after.
Fully compatible with Unofficial K1CP Tweak Pack. Do not install the "tar02_janice021.dlg" or "tar09_recept091.dlg" files from Persuade Fixes. They will remove my Force Persuade checks, and Jedi from the Start includes equivalent changes.
Fully compatible with Restored Content for K1CP. Install Jedi from the Start after.
Fully compatible with Taris Dueling Arena Adjustment.
Fully compatible with JC's Jedi Tailor.
Fully compatible with Carth's Republic Uniform and Flight Suit.

SWToR Style Training Sabers will overwrite my changes to the Dantooine Lightsaber Training, but should not cause any issues.

Not compatible with KotOR 1 Restoration. This mod is increasingly outdated. Use Restored Content for K1CP instead.
Not compatible with Tutorial Remover. This mod includes its functionality.
Not compatible with Trask Ulgo Without Tutorials.
Not compatible with Recruit T3-M4 Early. This mod includes equivalent functionality.
Not compatible with JC's Robe Adjustment. This mod includes most of its functionality.

Recommended Mods

KotOR 1 Community Patch is strongly recommended.
JC's Jedi Tailor is highly recommended. Thanks to JC for letting me include most of his Robe Adjustment mod.
JC's Extra Saber Colors is highly recommended. You will be able to choose additional lightsaber color options when you create a character with this mod installed.
Consular Sentinel Class Skill Swap (or KotOR 1 Community Patch which includes it) is recommended if you want the Sentinel class to be somewhat meaningful.
Trask Ulgo Without Tutorials is recommended if you want a vanilla friendly tutorial remover instead.

Special Thanks/Acknowledgements

Talchia and Achilles for the original Padawan mods that inspired this one.
KOTOR Tool – Fred Tetra
DeNCS – JdNoa & Dashus
DLGEditor – tk102
K-GFF – tk102
TSL Patcher – stoffe
KotOR Scripting Tool - Blue
Holocron Toolset and HoloPatcher – Cortisol & th3w1zard1

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Jedi from the Start by darthbdaman is licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0

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