Could you help me with the workflow for modifying character models?
1. Extract dae.phyre from VBF with VBF Browser 2. Convert dae.phyre to FBX with FF12 Asset Converter 3. Modify FBX in Blender 4. Convert FBX to dae.phyre with FF12 Asset Converter
Is this the same process you use? My problem is that Asset Converter stalls on step 4.
What you're probably encountering is the error that skeleton mesh/bones can't be found when converting back to .dae.phyre? (If it's not let me know, otherwise...) In blender, you can't just delete things from the model or the error will appear. Instead, after selecting all the faces/vertices I usually set the vertices of the faces to zero to hide them. Here's my actual step-by-step:
1. Select one of the vertices I want to hide (from a clean unedited FBX model) 2. Hold Ctrl and numpad + to hide highlight all the faces/vertices within the group (that part is important or blender will freeze on the next step) 3. Click Script Tab & New 4. Use my custom script to remove the faces/vertices import bpy
mode = bpy.context.active_object.mode bpy.ops.object.mode_set(mode='OBJECT') selectedVerts = [v for v in bpy.context.active_object.data.vertices if v.select]
for vert in selectedVerts: new_location = vert.co new_location[0] = 0 new_location[1] = 10 new_location[2] = 0 vert.co = new_location
selected_faces = [f for f in bpy.context.active_object.data.polygons if f.select]
for face in selected_faces: face.vertices[0] = 0 # Change the first vertex index of the face face.vertices[1] = 0 # Change the second vertex index of the face face.vertices[2] = 0 # Change the third vertex index of the face
bpy.ops.object.mode_set(mode='OBJECT') bpy.ops.object.mode_set(mode='EDIT') 5. Click run to remove the faces 6. Export model to untitled.fbx 7. Convert FBX to .dae.phyre and it shouldn't stall here anymore
Thanks! Simply knowing that it should work helped me find my silly mistake. I think I have run into the problem you mention previously, though. My very-hacky solution was to delete all but one face, shrink the face, and place it deep inside the body.
Loving the costumes.Are you open to doing another Tidus change? I was thinking removing the the yellow shirt but keeping the shoulder guard and everything else from my first request. I think he’ll look good in overall, removing the entire upper torso coverings and leaving only the gauntlet and necklace would bring him very close to an Amano artwork.
I was also hoping for your wakka model but chop off his weird long rooster hair thing.
Is it also possible to get my Yuna mod request minus the black strings on her back?
Looking ahead to FFX2, it’s my favorite Final Fantasy game, must have played it over 30 times, so when it comes, I’ll be talking your head off. 🙈
Also is it possible to do a model port of FFX2 Yuna to FFX Yuna? If the skirt hard to be shortend by 2 or removed that’s ok.
Hey so some bad news with your requests - Tidus can't have his shirt removed (at least not with my limited skills on 3D modelling) because they've made his shirt to be his actual skeleton/torso, so when you try to remove it he has nothing (see pic).
But what I can do for you is remove Wakka's awful hair thing, you can find it under the Misc. section of the files now. (Screenshots) But obviously his hair is still going to be pretty spiky naturally.
And I was thinking about starting work on FFX-2 models but I'm not sure yet, their outfits are already so skimpy it feels weird removing what little they have. But I might look into their alternate outfits to mod
I’ve thought of something more minimalist for summoner Yuna.
My first thought is the altered Yuna model you did for me, minus the black strings on her back.
The second is the first thought plus reducing the size of her arm capes. The other version of that is only the arm covers and no capes, I imagine like Tidus that part of her arm is her only arm.
I know I’m annoying, but I love good costume mods.
Are you open to the Tidus variation you did for me, but changing his shoulder guard red, and turning the yellow parts blue, but keeping the white hood, trim and zippers?
I’m running out of ideas for the main cast…….🤣
Slimming down Tidus’s shorts maybe? 🤔🤔🤔 I’m out of ideas…
So, I've tried several times now to remove Yuna's black strings because it's just textures, but I can't for the life of me get her skin to match up (the skin behind the string and her lower back colouring). She ends up with either a big strip of shadow or different tones that looks like back fat sadly.
But I have added in a Shorter Sleeve mod for you in the Files section. It reduces her sleeves by like 50 or 60%. And you're right about removing it all, her underarm would disappear :(
I've also added in a slimmer shorts mod for Tidus. And a recolour to turn the yellow parts blue (screenshot - includes slimmer shorts). Because there were different shades of yellow (eg. his shoes were a duller yellow than the shirt) the blues have the same difference. The recolour mod is texture only, so if you like those colours add those files in after any other model mod so those textures overwrite the originals.
Sweet! Ugh! I just realized a bonding between Tidus and the sphere grid, he looks the same color and I love it! I love a good gameplay and lore consistency.
Would you be up for doing a normal non-minimalist FFX Rikku with everything the same but with a color of her shirt to a lighter green to match her sphere grid and her shorts orange?
Another lore & minimalist hybrid would be Lulu. With the same fur and dress fringe and belts, but the dress and corset various purples. For minimalism I think reducing the size of her shoulder fur like Tiduses shorts and Wakkas hair.
Wakka would just be a deeper orange.
A minimalist for 10 Seymour came to mind. Taking off tose weird bug hair pieces and parts of his robe. Part of Maechens cape. Jecht minus part of his his sash. Donna is pretty skimpy like the ladies of 10-2…. So maybe parks of her head gear and the bow on her back. O’aka’s backpack.
I’ll be working on screenshots of everything to help support you and get your mod to the top!
Omg tell me to shut up if I am asking/talking to much. I totally get it, will understand and not be offended. Sent from my iPhone
Hey, I'm definitely up for doing those, but it will have to wait until the next weekend since my work week has already started :'( Didn't want to leave you hanging with no reply though
Neat! Feels pretty surreal seeing the characters without their various accessories. How much of Lulu's hair is changed, may I ask? Her weird hairstyle that has cornrows on half her head always bugged me.
Are you going to do anything for X-2 as well? I'd really like to see that J symbol on the front of Yuna's gunner outfit removed. It always bothered me, and I don't think there's a mod yet that simply gets rid of it.
Hey, so Lulu's hair wasn't changed except her fringe and removing the hair pins. But turns out her cornrows are simply textures, so I've added in a new File in the Misc. part of the Files section that lets you change her corn rows into normal hair.
I've also added in a mod for FFX-2 that removes the weird J black string thing from Yuna's outfit you can download.
I actually started on doing a full minimalism thing for FFX-2 but their outfits are already so crazily skimpy there's basically nothing to remove. If anything, I might cover them up so their butt cheeks aren't showing lol
Oh, thank you! I wasn't expecting you to actually go ahead and make it, and so quickly too. Could you please post some screenshots of the new edits you've made? Did you make the edit to Lulu's hair as a standalone thing, or is it an extension of the base mod?
Sure, the normal outfits in X-2 don't have a lot to remove, but their outfits from other dresspheres have some parts that could be removed or adjusted. The big, weirdly-shaped helmets of the Dark Knight and Berserker, the tattoos on the Berserker and Lady Luck, and so on. Just as examples.
Sure! Here's a link to Yuna's Gunner screenshots, and here's one for Lulu's hair. Getting rid of her scalp does sometimes seem to make her braid bun much more light in cutscenes though - normal gameplay is still fine. Her hair is standalone, so you can just use that .zip and extract it following the instructions in the description like normal, or you can merge it with one of my other mods (make sure you copy the cornrows .zip over after the main mod).
I guess you're right with FFX-2 having so many outfits to do something with... I might go back and look into them again, thanks
Thanks, looks pretty good! So just to make sure I understand correctly, that texture you made for me only changes her cornrows, and if I want the front of her hair changed or her jewelry removed, I have to combine it with the main mod? And out of curiosity, is it possible to combine it with mods made by other people, such as this one, for example?
That's right, so you add in the main mod first (if you want to remove her jewerlly or hair pins etc.) and then apply the second mod on top since it will overwrite the textures in the first.
I don't think you can combine texture mods (Modest Lulu) but what I've done for you is extract the Modest Lulu textures from ClockworkPrince's mod - and then applied my cornrow removal textures on top, so it's essentially combining the two. You can find this new file under Misc. Screenshots here
Alright, thanks a ton! I just wanted to make sure the edits you did for me can be used with or without the edits from the main mod. I like how Lulu looks with both her eyes showing, but I might want to have the front of her hair look normal if the winking thing you mentioned looks too silly during big serious plot stuff.
Looking good! Nice work! Are these models 4K? Since you’re open to requests, I’ll put mine out there. For Yuna have her blue hair accessory and the flower with strands be put back on her dress, Tidus’s back pack and necklace returned and the lower half of his gauntlet restored, but keep the red loop mesh thing removed, maybe Aurons alcohol mug returned for lore’s sake thanks to his limit break. Really loving Lulus new look, it really makes me wonder if less complex character designs are what final fantasy needs. ❤️❤️🫂
Hey, thanks so much! I don't think these models are 4K - they're just the regular meshes found in game (high poly count and low poly count ones). I didn't even know there were higher versions out there lol
I've added your requested changes into a .zip file you can now find under the "Misc." section of the "Files" tab. Hope I got everything you requested (And yeah, Lulu's new design is my new fav out of all the changes)
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1. Extract dae.phyre from VBF with VBF Browser
2. Convert dae.phyre to FBX with FF12 Asset Converter
3. Modify FBX in Blender
4. Convert FBX to dae.phyre with FF12 Asset Converter
Is this the same process you use? My problem is that Asset Converter stalls on step 4.
What you're probably encountering is the error that skeleton mesh/bones can't be found when converting back to .dae.phyre? (If it's not let me know, otherwise...) In blender, you can't just delete things from the model or the error will appear. Instead, after selecting all the faces/vertices I usually set the vertices of the faces to zero to hide them. Here's my actual step-by-step:
1. Select one of the vertices I want to hide (from a clean unedited FBX model)
2. Hold Ctrl and numpad + to hide highlight all the faces/vertices within the group (that part is important or blender will freeze on the next step)
3. Click Script Tab & New
4. Use my custom script to remove the faces/vertices
import bpy
5. Click run to remove the facesmode = bpy.context.active_object.mode
bpy.ops.object.mode_set(mode='OBJECT')
selectedVerts = [v for v in bpy.context.active_object.data.vertices if v.select]
for vert in selectedVerts:
new_location = vert.co
new_location[0] = 0
new_location[1] = 10
new_location[2] = 0
vert.co = new_location
selected_faces = [f for f in bpy.context.active_object.data.polygons if f.select]
for face in selected_faces:
face.vertices[0] = 0 # Change the first vertex index of the face
face.vertices[1] = 0 # Change the second vertex index of the face
face.vertices[2] = 0 # Change the third vertex index of the face
bpy.ops.object.mode_set(mode='OBJECT')
bpy.ops.object.mode_set(mode='EDIT')
6. Export model to untitled.fbx
7. Convert FBX to .dae.phyre and it shouldn't stall here anymore
I was also hoping for your wakka model but chop off his weird long rooster hair thing.
Is it also possible to get my Yuna mod request minus the black strings on her back?
Looking ahead to FFX2, it’s my favorite Final Fantasy game, must have played it over 30 times, so when it comes, I’ll be talking your head off. 🙈
Also is it possible to do a model port of FFX2 Yuna to FFX Yuna? If the skirt hard to be shortend by 2 or removed that’s ok.
Ok! I’m done talking. 🤫🫂
But what I can do for you is remove Wakka's awful hair thing, you can find it under the Misc. section of the files now. (Screenshots) But obviously his hair is still going to be pretty spiky naturally.
I think there's already a mod out there to do swapping of character models (FFX2 Yuna into FFX) by HeartlessSeph which is great because I wouldn't know where to start on accomplishing that haha
And I was thinking about starting work on FFX-2 models but I'm not sure yet, their outfits are already so skimpy it feels weird removing what little they have. But I might look into their alternate outfits to mod
I’ve thought of something more minimalist for summoner Yuna.
My first thought is the altered Yuna model you did for me, minus the black strings on her back.
The second is the first thought plus reducing the size of her arm capes. The other version of that is only the arm covers and no capes, I imagine like Tidus that part of her arm is her only arm.
I know I’m annoying, but I love good costume mods.
Are you open to the Tidus variation you did for me, but changing his shoulder guard red, and turning the yellow parts blue, but keeping the white hood, trim and zippers?
I’m running out of ideas for the main cast…….🤣
Slimming down Tidus’s shorts maybe? 🤔🤔🤔 I’m out of ideas…
So, I've tried several times now to remove Yuna's black strings because it's just textures, but I can't for the life of me get her skin to match up (the skin behind the string and her lower back colouring). She ends up with either a big strip of shadow or different tones that looks like back fat sadly.
But I have added in a Shorter Sleeve mod for you in the Files section. It reduces her sleeves by like 50 or 60%. And you're right about removing it all, her underarm would disappear :(
I've also added in a slimmer shorts mod for Tidus. And a recolour to turn the yellow parts blue (screenshot - includes slimmer shorts). Because there were different shades of yellow (eg. his shoes were a duller yellow than the shirt) the blues have the same difference.
The recolour mod is texture only, so if you like those colours add those files in after any other model mod so those textures overwrite the originals.
Would you be up for doing a normal non-minimalist FFX Rikku with everything the same but with a color of her shirt to a lighter green to match her sphere grid and her shorts orange?
Another lore & minimalist hybrid would be Lulu. With the same fur and dress fringe and belts, but the dress and corset various purples. For minimalism I think reducing the size of her shoulder fur like Tiduses shorts and Wakkas hair.
Wakka would just be a deeper orange.
A minimalist for 10 Seymour came to mind. Taking off tose weird bug hair pieces and parts of his robe. Part of Maechens cape. Jecht minus part of his his sash. Donna is pretty skimpy like the ladies of 10-2…. So maybe parks of her head gear and the bow on her back. O’aka’s backpack.
I’ll be working on screenshots of everything to help support you and get your mod to the top!
Omg tell me to shut up if I am asking/talking to much. I totally get it, will understand and not be offended.
Sent from my iPhone
Didn't want to leave you hanging with no reply though
Are you going to do anything for X-2 as well? I'd really like to see that J symbol on the front of Yuna's gunner outfit removed. It always bothered me, and I don't think there's a mod yet that simply gets rid of it.
I've also added in a mod for FFX-2 that removes the weird J black string thing from Yuna's outfit you can download.
I actually started on doing a full minimalism thing for FFX-2 but their outfits are already so crazily skimpy there's basically nothing to remove. If anything, I might cover them up so their butt cheeks aren't showing lol
Sure, the normal outfits in X-2 don't have a lot to remove, but their outfits from other dresspheres have some parts that could be removed or adjusted. The big, weirdly-shaped helmets of the Dark Knight and Berserker, the tattoos on the Berserker and Lady Luck, and so on. Just as examples.
Her hair is standalone, so you can just use that .zip and extract it following the instructions in the description like normal, or you can merge it with one of my other mods (make sure you copy the cornrows .zip over after the main mod).
I guess you're right with FFX-2 having so many outfits to do something with... I might go back and look into them again, thanks
I don't think you can combine texture mods (Modest Lulu) but what I've done for you is extract the Modest Lulu textures from ClockworkPrince's mod - and then applied my cornrow removal textures on top, so it's essentially combining the two. You can find this new file under Misc. Screenshots here
I've added your requested changes into a .zip file you can now find under the "Misc." section of the "Files" tab. Hope I got everything you requested
(And yeah, Lulu's new design is my new fav out of all the changes)