A massive THANKS to everyone endorsing and commenting. I hope you all are enjoying it!
About the Male version: -Check out the new release. It should be fully functional but may have minor issues, report if you see any. -The textures included in both male and female versions of the mod are identical. So, you can install them from both, or either FOMODs, the results will be the same.
Since a lot of you guys don't read the main page for whatever reason, I'll post the compatibility notes here: Compatibility: -This mod is not compatible with other mods that modify the BaseFemaleHead.tri and the BaseMaleHead.tri files, so basically anything that changes the facial expressions. -The 'Pearly Whites' teeth meshes are not compatible with other mods that modify teeth meshes. However, there is an option to use just the textures from Pearly Whites in the FOMOD, but without the mesh edits, it most probably won't look as good. You can use this option especially if you see clipping issues when using the teeth meshes.
Good mod on paper, but in practice. My girls face can feel a little uncanny at times, and rather strange. The eyebrows look like worms. The expressions themselves are great when paired with things like player comments and head tracking, but in regular dialogue its just off putting.
How good this mod looks is highly dependable upon your character's face - I guess that's why the vanilla expressions are so "neutral" since they have to work more or less with every possible face.
On my character this mod doesn't look really that good and sometimes straight up weird - especially the eyebrows :c
Not saying this mod is bad or anything, just something to keep in mind when installing it.
Good comparison. And you are probably quite right, how it looks does depend somewhat on the character's face preset. But, as you can see in your screenshots using the vanilla expressions, there is barely any 'expressing' going on there (like at all), so at the end of the day, this mod is doing what it is supposed to.
All the screenshots are with your mod installed (HiPoly + closed-mouth option). I have yet to compare this to vanilla - which I'm doing later tonight.
I just added the "neutral-ish" screenshots to show how my character looks normally vs. how some expressions make my character look a bit weird, IMO.
I'm not one to make requests or anything, but how difficult would it be to only install some of your expressions - basically removing those that add "excessive" eyebrow movements // or reverting the eyebrows to vanilla for those? Because I really like most of your expressions, but every now or then, some of them kinda kill my immersion when my character makes a "silly" face.
Oh, I see. Well, it's not easy to do, that's for sure. I would have to redo, well, almost everything again to make a version like that. So, no chance I am doing that again anytime soon, sorry.
Whenever i fast travel or enter a new area after going around Boston, the NPC's and my companion shows no expression/emotion. I had to restart the game to see them shows expression again. Is this a common bug?
Sometimes i notice the expressionless bug appears when i use multiple followers (i.e Amazing Follower Tweaks, Liga Companion or Unlimited Companion Framework as experiment) right after fast travel.
Edited : What i meant by expressionless/emotionless is they don't smile, mad, showing teeth and all of that based on my interactions with them. Even after romancing Piper, she doesn't smile when i asked how our relationship is. But she suddenly shows her emotion whenever i restarted the game. The bug only appears after i fast travel, most heavily affected on Boston area.
Everything is fine. No running out of memory like that. I have installed Buffout 4 Next Gen (NG), Baka Heap Script Heap Memory Extend limiter and all of that. It just weird whenever i fast travel or entering a building around Boston area, the NPC's and companions just stop showing emotion/expression.
I'll be straight though, this has happened for a long time since i start modding FO4 in 2016 and i have been trying to find solution to that specific bug. I thought i might just let you know about this issue cause your mod might've been the solution i looking for but alas, the expressionless bug still occurs.
You can try and test it yourself.
Edited : If there's no issue on your end after you test it, try having multiple followers instead i.e AFT, UCF or any of them. I just don't like seeing my precious companion showing dead inside nor the NPCs
I get this bug and I've never installed this mod. Seems to happen whenever I fast travel with a companion. It's fixed if I quit the game and go back in. So it's definitely nothing to do with this mod. Whether it's a vanilla bug or something caused by another mod, I'm not sure.
i have this bug too. ill look for the fast travel link.
update: i had a feeling the bug started when i used screen archer face morphs. so when i went into screen archer and enabled "morph hack" under hacks, it reset the player's idle face morphs to normal. update 2: nope the above is not repeatable. something else enabled my char to smile again.
I just found out this mod today from one of Juicehead's videos on youtube and it was an instant download and endorsement. My character looks much more expressive now which is something I wanted her to be, personality-wise. Only problem is, for some reason hair physics dont work any more.. not a deal breaker, but its probably on my end anyway.
That's nice. It's wonderful to hear you like it. The hair physics, fortunately, have nothing to do with face morphs, it must be something else causing the issue. Try a different hairstyle perhaps? If you are using a modded hair, try a vanilla one instead.
That's all on me for using SLM too much lmao. Fixed it by getting a haircut from a barber instead of changing the hair through SLM. Thank you for replying tho! At least I know it isn't this mod and that makes me happy cause the clean teeth and new expressions are superb!
Out of curiosity, will you ever consider making the Pearly Whites Retexture part of this mod into a standalone one? I think yours looks the best but I unfortunately use piercings mods that are incompatible with the facial expressions.
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About the Male version:
-Check out the new release. It should be fully functional but may have minor issues, report if you see any.
-The textures included in both male and female versions of the mod are identical. So, you can install them from both, or either FOMODs, the
results will be the same.
Since a lot of you guys don't read the main page for whatever reason, I'll post the compatibility notes here:
Compatibility:
-This mod is not compatible with other mods that modify the BaseFemaleHead.tri and the BaseMaleHead.tri files, so basically anything that changes the facial expressions.
-The 'Pearly Whites' teeth meshes are not compatible with other mods that modify teeth meshes. However, there is an option to use just the textures from Pearly Whites in the FOMOD, but without the mesh edits, it most probably won't look as good. You can use this option especially if you see clipping issues when using the teeth meshes.
Top job with this one, mate! Your work is really best described as quality over quantity! Keep it up!
Well done.
On my character this mod doesn't look really that good and sometimes straight up weird - especially the eyebrows :c
Not saying this mod is bad or anything, just something to keep in mind when installing it.
Just as example:
Neutral(-ish) Expression for comparison:
But, as you can see in your screenshots using the vanilla expressions, there is barely any 'expressing' going on there (like at all), so at the end of the day, this mod is doing what it is supposed to.
I have yet to compare this to vanilla - which I'm doing later tonight.
I just added the "neutral-ish" screenshots to show how my character looks normally vs. how some expressions make my character look a bit weird, IMO.
I'm not one to make requests or anything, but how difficult would it be to only install some of your expressions - basically removing those that add "excessive" eyebrow movements // or reverting the eyebrows to vanilla for those? Because I really like most of your expressions, but every now or then, some of them kinda kill my immersion when my character makes a "silly" face.
Well, it's not easy to do, that's for sure. I would have to redo, well, almost everything again to make a version like that. So, no chance I am doing that again anytime soon, sorry.
Sometimes i notice the expressionless bug appears when i use multiple followers (i.e Amazing Follower Tweaks, Liga Companion or Unlimited Companion Framework as experiment) right after fast travel.
Edited : What i meant by expressionless/emotionless is they don't smile, mad, showing teeth and all of that based on my interactions with them. Even after romancing Piper, she doesn't smile when i asked how our relationship is. But she suddenly shows her emotion whenever i restarted the game. The bug only appears after i fast travel, most heavily affected on Boston area.
Anyway, it's unlikely something I can fix within the mod.
It just weird whenever i fast travel or entering a building around Boston area, the NPC's and companions just stop showing emotion/expression.
I'll be straight though, this has happened for a long time since i start modding FO4 in 2016 and i have been trying to find solution to that specific bug. I thought i might just let you know about this issue cause your mod might've been the solution i looking for but alas, the expressionless bug still occurs.
You can try and test it yourself.
Edited : If there's no issue on your end after you test it, try having multiple followers instead i.e AFT, UCF or any of them. I just don't like seeing my precious companion showing dead inside nor the NPCs
update: i had a feeling the bug started when i used screen archer face morphs. so when i went into screen archer and enabled "morph hack" under hacks, it reset the player's idle face morphs to normal.
update 2: nope the above is not repeatable. something else enabled my char to smile again.
The hair physics, fortunately, have nothing to do with face morphs, it must be something else causing the issue. Try a different hairstyle perhaps? If you are using a modded hair, try a vanilla one instead.
Will there be any problem if I use it with this mod?? It seems to me that there is some overlap.