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  1. goobette
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    Hi I'm having an issue with getting the "Trouble in the Homestead" quest. 

    In the save I'm playing on currently, I had talking to three dogs before downloading the mod, but as soon as I downloaded it I went back to an auto save that sent me back to the vault, and I started all over again from there. Did me originally talking to three dogs in that save somehow affect the mod?

    Edit: I began a whole new playthrough and it still didn't give me the quest :(
  2. Andiclip
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    ¿Existe un mod compatible para cambiar la ropa de Butch?
    1. schlafenszeit
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      no que yo sepa, lo siento
  3. CholicCabbageHead
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    I hate to be a bother but I've encountered an issue - I installed this before I [<- Another small edit, oops] did Three Dog's questline and I haven't gotten the Trouble on The Homefront quest. Any ideas?

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    The only mods I have that I THINK would cause a problem with this are Bisexual Butch and Essential Followers and Caravans. I'm much newer to modding this game than FO4 or 76 so I've got no idea what conflicts with one another. Thank you in advance for any and all information.
    1. schlafenszeit
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      did you install it before talking to Three Dog at all? if you've talked to him it won't work
    2. CholicCabbageHead
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      Yep, I installed it when I was finishing up the cannibals quest. Hadn't been anywhere near the center of D.C. yet, even.
    3. CholicCabbageHead
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      I deleted my old saves up to meeting Three Dog and reinstalled the mod, no dice. The only thing I haven't tried is a new save but I'm reluctant to do that cause it'd be a LOT of lost progress.
    4. schlafenszeit
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      darn, i'm sorry that you're experiencing this issue
      no need to lose all your progress in saves, i'll do my best to upload a hot fix today until i find a permanent fix

      EDIT: so i looked into it, and there's no conflicts with Bisexual Butch or Essential Followers/Caravans - this mod is actually fully compatible with both it seems, but i can't replicate the bug
      are you sure you don't have any other mods that edit the quest Trouble On The Homefront? if you send a full modlist i might be able to figure out the issue
    5. CholicCabbageHead
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      Absolutely! Sorry I took so long to reply! These are in order and I disabled the Bisexual Butch + Essential NPCs one for testing atm. It still doesn't work. I don't THINK any of these change anything to do with Trouble on The Homefront but again I'm not all that versed in modding FO3 in particular.
      Be my luck I just messed up some DLC thing that's needed in order to run the mod but that's for someone more knowing - You - To help me figure out.
      Thank you again for all your help.

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      Is it possible to force the quest to load via a console command perhaps? That might help with testing.

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    6. schlafenszeit
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      none of those mods conflict; i'm sorry, i don't know what's causing the bug :\
      i'm not sure of the console commands either to start the quest
    7. CholicCabbageHead
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      Nuts.. I'll see if I can't try to uninstall and then reinstall and try a fresh new game. Last resort and all that. At least I know what to do, now.
      In the meantime, do you have any other possible ideas? I don't mind the quest not starting early tbh, it's the other perks I'm wanting.

      Or do you know of any other possible mods I could try? I ofc have Bi Butch and Essential NPCs, anything else you'd suggest?

      And thank you again for your help. I appreciate you taking the time to test things for me, even if they don't work out in the end.
    8. schlafenszeit
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      honestly? i'd really recommend TTW (tale of two wastelands), it's kind of a "try it once and you never go back" mod that puts FO3 in FNV's engine, lets you go back and forth between DC and the mojave, and it's lore-friendly
    9. CholicCabbageHead
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      YOOO that sounds so awesome! Thank you so much! I'm always looking for recommendations so I'll absolutely check that out! Thanks again!
    10. schlafenszeit
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      you're quite welcome!! feel free to add me on discord if you'd like, it's easier to talk there and you'll get quicker responses :)
      my tag is Bec#1111 (case sensitive)
    11. CholicCabbageHead
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      Much obliged! Added you after a quick cleanup lmao. See you there! :)
  4. Ajiqmukiz
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    Is this compatible with the Better Followers mod?
    1. schlafenszeit
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      can you please link the mod? if it's not compatible i can make a compatibility patch
  5. MilqueToastly
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    does this change how he looks or is that a different mod?
    1. schlafenszeit
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      there's an optional file that changes his appearance but it relies on FCO

      EDIT: i forgot to provide the optional file smh. i'll make sure to upload it when i can!!!
    2. MilqueToastly
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      ohh!! thank you! I look forward to it
  6. Lutherstyles
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    Awesome stuff! This is a much needed overhaul for Butch, my favourite follower too. Thank you for making him even more awesome!
  7. SkyroamerXD
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    this is one of my favorite mods for fallout 3!
    im so happy you made it where regardless of gender you can romance Butch :)
    1. schlafenszeit
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      i'm glad you're enjoying it!! if you check out the TTW version you'll see some more features to come :)
      eventually i'll have the FO3 and TTW have most of the same features, other than the NV mechanics for this version
    2. SkyroamerXD
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      Oh epic! Maybe soon I'll start using ttw
  8. WaterdropWaltz
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    Is this compatible with Essential Key Npc's?

    https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/24665
    1. schlafenszeit
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      if it edits Butch it won't be compatible but i can make a compatibility patch; if i forget just reply here to remind me
    2. WaterdropWaltz
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      That mod just makes all followers and caravans essential, including Butch. It isn't a big deal, but I do really appreciate the reply!
  9. TomRob909
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    You did a great work with this mod mate. just started a modded fallout 3 play through by the way. 

    Problem through with butch is that i dismissed him to my house but went to the Rivet City bar and now i get him to follow me anymore, just no option to. idk if its one my my mods conflict or not. just wanted to let you know. illl look into it more to see what mod it is and try to have your mod on top of my other mods.
    1. schlafenszeit
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      thank you!!
      can you please give me your modlist? either way i'll check out the issue (hopefully later today) when i can, i've been planning on updating this mod anyways
    2. TomRob909
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      i can give you my load order, unless you just want the mods i have installed.
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    4. schlafenszeit
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       81 51  Companion Perks.esp
       85 55  Butch.esp

      i think these two may be what's conflicting. do you have a link to these mods? i can try to make a compatibility patch
    5. TomRob909
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      https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/20357?tab=files

      there you go
    6. TomRob909
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      also would there be away to make butch spawn in the Muddy Rutter after completing "Trouble on the Homefront" regardless on how the player ends that questline? I dont know if the game its self does it or not just asking to put that thought in your head 
    7. schlafenszeit
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      i'll work on it when i can but as of now that mod's incompatible with mine
    8. TomRob909
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      it seems like for me at least all i needed to do was deactivate your mod, talk to butch at the muddy rutter then reactivate it to get the text to rehire him. Also your mod and the perk mod work as long as i put your mod over the perk mod

      edit: I think Project Beauty with your mod is making a weird texture glitch with butch's mouth and bread
    9. schlafenszeit
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      my new pc should be here within a week or so and i'll be able to look into it then, sorry for the delay
    10. TomRob909
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      i unactived your mod, talked to butch(without your mod), failed to pass the karma check, reactived your mod, then was able to get him to follow me again.
  10. deleted36841010
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    Trouble on the Homefront worked perfectly and I love being able to recruit Butch almost right away.

    But I have 2 problems. For me, dismissing him to my Megaton house doesn't seem to work. Choosing that option just sends to him Rivet City like normal. I don't have any mods modifying the Megaton house.
    Also, I'm getting the Black Widow dialog options even though my character is a male. :\
    1. schlafenszeit
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      i'll look into the bugs once i'm able to, sorry about that!!!