After playing this for awhile, this mod truly feels like it was meant to be there from the beginning. I'm really enjoying the new demon champion.
Although he may still be over-powered, I thought-up a solution; let me know what you think of it. Instead of weakening his stats/skills any further, don't change him at all. However, add a part to the 'Avatar of Fire' quest. Add one additional battle after the current two that lead up to getting him as a champion. I think it would be really great (or dare I say, "EPIC") to fight the champion himself (along with his great intro coming out of the ground etc) in a third battle. Perhaps make him slightly stronger when you fight him, or just give him a bunch of minions. Either way, obviously this battle should be fairly more difficult than the previous two.
This way, I think his power will be far more justified for sake of balance. In other words, you have now truly *earned* such a powerful ally. Again, love this mod and look forward to seeing what great stuff come up with!
Thanks for the feedback Yeah I might just do that, i've messed with him a lot and I don't want him to be much weaker, perhaps just a bit. I've cheated him up to level 60 before, and he is absolutely massive at that point, bigger than the mob he is based on.
Happy to help, and thanks taking my feedback into consideration. I found one very minor bug with the recent release: When you hover over the trait 'Otherworldly Allies', it now says "LimitedUnitCap" two times underneath the description. Not sure what caused this as I imagine it was not intentional -- and I recall it didn't appear there in previous versions.
And again, I look forward to seeing how this comes along!
Cool mod. But alas there is a bug. When I choose kingdom everything works but when I want to be an Empire with Otherworldly Allies I have no pioneers only cinder skeletons. And when I say no pioneers I mean no pioneers, there are none, not just that I can't train them there is nothing to click.
Sorry just wanted to be clear.
But again cool mod please fix this so I can play with empire, pretty please.
Sorry I found out that it was not a problem in Empire but it happens when I make a faction with the Chaos Legion Race from the Children of the Storm mod and your Otherworldly Allies.
Looks great so far, no problems yet. Hard to say if the demons are still unbalanced (I'd like to test it out further), but they may be by some players' standards. Either way, I love what you came up with and hope to see further development here, or in other mods from you in the future!
And I know they were just suggestions (DarkGenius), but using words like 'hell' or 'lucifer' doesn't "cripple the fun"; it's simply a matter of personal taste. Most mods for this game barrow from other cultures or unrelated fan-fiction, which I'm totally fine with. It's all similar in meaning, so call it what you will.
I feel that the new champion is definately unbalanced, I keep starting new games, doing the quest and then using him for a bit, and I keep tweaking him. I'll upload a new version when i'm happy with him.
I think i'm also gonna do something with the tech tree's so that it doesn't clutter up the existing techs.
You misinterpret me, personal taste is what this is all about.
But bear with me, people could easily understand it wrong, by making these suggestions I'm showing a neutral way, but it is totally his own mod, he could accept my suggestions or not, trust me, I have seen enough of people to know that small things can concoct and create chaos easily.
These are neutral suggestions, not good nor evil, but in between the two, to serve both tastes without feeding one and starving the other.
Man! I gotta say, I wasn't expecting this mod, THANK YOU!
May I suggest a few things? well, since elemental is a whole new dimenson, we shouldn't use common words of Terra in Elemental, like "Hell", I think Pact with Underworld is more fitting, or "Conjurers" are kinda more role-playing.
Also, could you make a mod that allows you create constructs? equal them Scrap/Sand/Collosus/Obsidian/Stone/Iron/Statue Golems? "Arcane Artificier" mod does that nicely, but it is heavily unupdated and also lacks Sand/Scrap golems, they're essential.
I'm not a very religious person, nor a satanist, but all that ruckos with Hell and Lucifer just cripple the fun, I'l enjoying it so far, but I bet some other people will frown upon.
Hey thanks man, they're great, I'm hours of crazy fun, AI uses them like cannon fodder always sending waves of demons, very good and clever, thanks, you're one great modder, also I'll go fetch the Construct right now. I can already smell it and it seems delicious
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Although he may still be over-powered, I thought-up a solution; let me know what you think of it. Instead of weakening his stats/skills any further, don't change him at all. However, add a part to the 'Avatar of Fire' quest. Add one additional battle after the current two that lead up to getting him as a champion. I think it would be really great (or dare I say, "EPIC") to fight the champion himself (along with his great intro coming out of the ground etc) in a third battle. Perhaps make him slightly stronger when you fight him, or just give him a bunch of minions. Either way, obviously this battle should be fairly more difficult than the previous two.
This way, I think his power will be far more justified for sake of balance. In other words, you have now truly *earned* such a powerful ally. Again, love this mod and look forward to seeing what great stuff come up with!
And again, I look forward to seeing how this comes along!
Sorry just wanted to be clear.
But again cool mod please fix this so I can play with empire, pretty please.
And I know they were just suggestions (DarkGenius), but using words like 'hell' or 'lucifer' doesn't "cripple the fun"; it's simply a matter of personal taste. Most mods for this game barrow from other cultures or unrelated fan-fiction, which I'm totally fine with. It's all similar in meaning, so call it what you will.
I think i'm also gonna do something with the tech tree's so that it doesn't clutter up the existing techs.
But bear with me, people could easily understand it wrong, by making these suggestions I'm showing a neutral way, but it is totally his own mod, he could accept my suggestions or not, trust me, I have seen enough of people to know that small things can concoct and create chaos easily.
These are neutral suggestions, not good nor evil, but in between the two, to serve both tastes without feeding one and starving the other.
Regards,
-DG.
May I suggest a few things? well, since elemental is a whole new dimenson, we shouldn't use common words of Terra in Elemental, like "Hell", I think Pact with Underworld is more fitting, or "Conjurers" are kinda more role-playing.
Also, could you make a mod that allows you create constructs? equal them Scrap/Sand/Collosus/Obsidian/Stone/Iron/Statue Golems? "Arcane Artificier" mod does that nicely, but it is heavily unupdated and also lacks Sand/Scrap golems, they're essential.
I'm not a very religious person, nor a satanist, but all that ruckos with Hell and Lucifer just cripple the fun, I'l enjoying it so far, but I bet some other people will frown upon.
Thanks, I'm loving the mod!
I can do a mod with constructs fairly easily, I might do it today or tomorrow