Before posting here, please look in the description if you can not find the answer there. I repost the answers to the most common questions here:
- You can not assign students to class 2 directly. All students not assigned to class 1, class 3 or class 4 go to class 2. - Played sims always go to class 1. No matter which class they are assigned else. (EA design decision.)
- If the menu does not apear on the mail box and the "Aramiteus_HighSchool.ts4script" is not apearing in the mod scripts list, shorten the path name wether by moving the "Aramiteus_HighSchool.ts4script" down to the mods folder or by renaming it to "Core.ts4script". Or whatever you can do to shorten the pathname of the mod files. Sims 4 has a problem with long file path names.
- if sims do not appear in the sim pickers: For me this happens when I add a sim from the library that was not in the game before. Seems to be a vanilla issue I can not do anything against. It helped to delete the localthumbs.cache and give The Sims 4 time (or several reloads) to get known of the new added sim. Try to meet with your played sim the teens placed down from the gallery (introduce themselves to them). After that they will show up on the sim picker. If anyone knows what can be done about this in a better way, please tell us.
Please, I see so many false positives in the posts below and as my lifetime is restricted and can not be replaced .... :-). There is a simple, besides a bit time consuming method to verify if this mod causes trouble or not: Do a save 10 sim minutes before you go to the school lot (school event starts). Move all your mods besides this into a directory on your desktop. (I named it "disabledSimsMods") If it works as intended after reload, you know that some other mod is causing the trouble. You can find the causing mod by slowly re-adding them via the 50:50 method. If you find an incompatible mod, please let me know. Perhaps I can create a compatibility patch then. At least I can add it to the incompatible mods list to save others from wasting their time by searching for it.
I do not use GoToSchool V.5. So therefore did not take any action towards compatibility. No idea if Zerbu did. Maybe anyone else have experience in using them together?
Oh, don't worry. It's just that sometimes I have children and teenagers in the same family, and I would like to accompany them both, on alternate days, of course. But I can test on a new save and see if there is a way to play with both. thanks again.
After testing with multiple mods, I was able to find that this mod is incompatible with sims4me's whiteboard_nocalltoaction mod(Removes the white outline from the High School whiteboard).
Issues that have occurred: 1. Unable to assign classes as accessing the whiteboard. 2. Class 2~4 teachers appear on the site but do not give lessons.
When I deleted that mod, some teachers still don't give lessons, but the whiteboard issue is fixed.
I hope it's a reference for you and others. Thank you so much for making a great mod and sorry for my bad English ;)
Sounds logical as I had to mod the whiteboards logic. So any mod that does things with them ...Added to the incompatible mods list. Maybe in the future, when I have more energy again, I'll make a few compatibility mods.
(Just found out that the medication I've been taking for the last few months to combat stomach acid is robbing me of energy. I need to reduce the dose. And I thought the whole time it is because of the stress at work, that I wanted to sleep all the evenings )
Does this mod conflict with sims4me's townie overhaul lessfame highschool? When I installed that mod I had a problem where all the teenagers appear in school and when I uninstalled that mod it fixed the problem.
From reading the description of sims4me's townie overhaul lessfame highschool: townieoverhaul_highschool: The game will fill all high school student roles with existing teenage sims instead of creating new ones. It will prefer filling the roles with teenagers your teenager has a good relationship with. It will also take existing Sims working in the respective careers for career day instead of creating new ones.
Conclusion: most likely yes. And quite seemless to use it together with this mod as ... you fill the roles manually with this mod. Maybe only for the careerday not creating new sims of use.
Thanks for asking/reporting, I'll add it to the incompatible mods list.
Hello! First, thank you so much for this lovely mod! I've encountered one issue I may need some help with. When loading into the high school lot, it seems that I'm unable to select classes 1, 3, or 4 on the whiteboards. I've attempted adding an extra so there's 5 on the lot, but the options to assign the classroom just isn't showing up when I click on the whiteboards. Let me know if there's maybe something I could do differently, thanks! :)
Try to remove them all in build mode and place new ones. (If they are not assignable, most likely they are already assigned. Normally if you place a new board, that is initial. Then if you exit build mode and for example assign it to class 2, the former class 2 board becomes unassigned and can be assigned then to an other class. Should look like in screenshot 9 above)
Hello! I'm having an issue! I only have 2 whiteboards in my school, and I tried to set the teacher and students for Class 3 (since I couldn't add students to Class 2) but it didn't work; nobody went to class and the teacher never started teaching. Also, all of the students for Class 1 attend class correctly, but the teacher won't teach, she only wanders the lot doing other things.
See sticky post above: - You can not assign students to class 2 directly. All students not assigned to class 1, class 3 or class 4 go to class 2. And please read the description for assigning the teachers. So I do not have to repeat everthing that is already said.
I have installed the mod correctly and i am able to select my sims from the mailbox to add them to class but none of them are showing up to school. I have custom teens selected that I made. I also have my MCC populations set to 30. Please help.
- If not all choosen classmates, teachers, caterers appear: Check if they are still assigned as Class Mates, are still teens, do still have the High School Career. Check also Keep Sims in Home Region by Kuttoe (itch.io)for update if installed and enable the "High School Toggle" of it. Seems like the "High School Toggle" of Keep Sims in Home Region by Kuttoe (itch.io) is not working for the teachers and caterers. Move them to regions that are allowed to travel to Copperdale or allow their home regions for Copperdale.. If you have MCCC installed disable teenage can quit Highschool: MC Careers -> Teenagers quit school. Set it to disable. (Had the case that teens, did not have the High School Career anymore) The students are called additionally to the initial call between (7)8 am and 9am. Nevertheless it may happen that not all are called in (For me, most times the last ones in the list if you push "remove" on the mail box menu.
Setting MCCC max sims in zone is seemless. See description: Maximum sims in Zone for high school lots is set to 100.
I absolutely love this mod and it has become an indispensable part of my gameplay. However, recently I've encountered a recurring issue where the BetterException error message pops up upon starting the game.
Possible Cause(Confidence: 30%) My Script Mods\HighSchool\Scripts\MoreStudentsCore.py
Reason Error during inventory load (RuntimeError: [Zone: 6890ecbcd9d0619] Object ID: [ee74d87160000018, 0x000000000000a6d2] is not OBJECT, PersistenceGroup = 3 )
Hello! It does not matter if I put 24 or 12 students, it just works really slow. My game is usually smooth, but when playing in high school my sims take 30 minutes to follow an order, or just dont do it I dont reset them, the classes also start 1 hour late. I tried downloading the extra file to go to class early and followed the instalation instructions but nothing works. Also, I have all the neccesary teachers and boards. I read a lot of comments in here but nothing worked for me. I also dont have mods that conflict so I dont know what to do. (Sorry for my english, it is not my first language). Thank you in advance!
Hi! Let me start by saying I LOVE this mod, it has given my school so much more to work with. The only issue I’m running into is that none of my sims are developing crushes anymore. I’ve played with 5 different teens within the school since installing and no crushes! Which seems odd considering before this my sims would have a crush on the first teen they ever spoke to, lol. My gameplay is heavily influenced on crushes (I like to think they get to pick their partners) so it’s kind of messing up my vibe 😅 I don’t know if anyone else is having this issue.
Hello, I'll have a look. (The relationship autonomy started to annoy me and therefore I added the optional file: noNPCRelationShipAutonomy. I hope nothing from there sneaked into the main mod)
Edit: Had a look. I do not think the mod is interfering. In my game I do not have crushes as I disabled NPC Relationship Autonomy.
In addition to the optional file for the student outfits, can there also be one made for the teachers and principle ? Or is that not possible due to the restrictions of the situational outfits they use ?
Quite easy to do. For example in job_HighSchool_Active_Base_NPC_Teacher2: I think can be done simply by deleting the lines: <V n="job_uniform" t="uniform_specified"> <U n="uniform_specified"> <E n="outfit_change_priority">High</E> <E n="outfit_change_reason">Situation</E> <V n="situation_outfit_generators" t="enabled"> <L n="enabled"> <U> <T n="generator">303236<!--Outfit: outfit_HighSchool_Active_Teacher--></T> </U> </L> </V> </U> </V>
Will do this as soon I have again a bit more time. (Most likely end of this month :-) )
Ah, wasn't sure where that was, I guess maybe mention to others in the future they need to use Sim4Studio to edit these.
But deleting that line out of the package worked, I suppose I need to do the same for NPC_Teacher 1,3 and 4 too ?
Also where would I have to edit to allow more than one Janitor present during highschool ? As it seems that it's always limited to one regardless of selecting multiple sims for the job.
Yes you have to do the same for NPC_Teacher 1,3 and 4 too.
Multiple Janitors? I think that one does the job great. By adding multiple sims to the janitor you just increase the pool. So there is a chance to see diferent Janitors on different days. (Edit: Just had a look in the janitor filter, do not think so as random is disabled there, I'll add to the todo list)
Was also going to ask if the cafeteria worker limit is also capped at 3, since having 20+ students is problematic during lunch breaks as they tend to over crowd all 3 food stalls I setup. Alternatively I suppose maybe speeding up the animation or process they have to provide orders or make the students tend to use vending machines more often.
Also not sure if it's a glitch or bug, but the principle tends to leave her office and get angry at a particular student I have in class 1 even though they are sitting down with the other students in class when the study period is started. Going to rotate them into one of the other classes and see if it still persists.
Atm you can have 4 cafeteria workers. It is quite easy to increase the number for them in the weeklySchedules: Simply increase the 3 to whatever: <U> <U n="count"> <T n="lower_bound">3</T> <T n="upper_bound">3</T> </U> <T n="situation">278011<!--TendObjectSituation: situation_Vendor_CafeteriaStation_HighSchool--></T> <U n="start_time"> <T n="hour">10</T> <T n="minute">30</T> </U> <U n="stop_time"> <T n="hour">14</T> </U> </U>
Don't get confused, the first one is defined to come earlier and stay longer at about line 50. Therefore there are 4 of them.
For the principle behaviour, I think that is a vanilla issue or something else. At least I do not have this behaviour in my game. But maybe he is yelling at the mean sim and as I play without one ...
Might also need to look into the "No Club Outfits" in the optional files area, as it technically still works but only for other students. Basically seems to keep resetting the Sims you are playing to the club attire, it also does it when making small changes in CAS on a sim and then returning back to the main game.
Also regarding the student and principal issue, switching them to another class worked. Not entirely sure what caused it but least there's a way to fix it.
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I repost the answers to the most common questions here:
- You can not assign students to class 2 directly. All students not assigned to class 1, class 3 or class 4 go to class 2.
- Played sims always go to class 1. No matter which class they are assigned else. (EA design decision.)
- If the menu does not apear on the mail box and the "Aramiteus_HighSchool.ts4script" is not apearing in the mod scripts list, shorten the path name wether by moving the "Aramiteus_HighSchool.ts4script" down to the mods folder or by renaming it to "Core.ts4script". Or whatever you can do to shorten the pathname of the mod files. Sims 4 has a problem with long file path names.
- if sims do not appear in the sim pickers:
For me this happens when I add a sim from the library that was not in the game before. Seems to be a vanilla issue I can not do anything against.
It helped to delete the localthumbs.cache and give The Sims 4 time (or several reloads) to get known of the new added sim.
Try to meet with your played sim the teens placed down from the gallery (introduce themselves to them). After that they will show up on the sim picker.
If anyone knows what can be done about this in a better way, please tell us.
An other useful resource to save you and me time is to have a look at The Sims 4 | Forum | Bug Reports | EA Answers HQ. to prevent us to analyse vanilla bugs.
Please, I see so many false positives in the posts below and as my lifetime is restricted and can not be replaced .... :-).
There is a simple, besides a bit time consuming method to verify if this mod causes trouble or not:
Do a save 10 sim minutes before you go to the school lot (school event starts).
Move all your mods besides this into a directory on your desktop. (I named it "disabledSimsMods")
If it works as intended after reload, you know that some other mod is causing the trouble.
You can find the causing mod by slowly re-adding them via the 50:50 method.
If you find an incompatible mod, please let me know. Perhaps I can create a compatibility patch then.
At least I can add it to the incompatible mods list to save others from wasting their time by searching for it.
Are both compatible now?
Thanks
Maybe anyone else have experience in using them together?
After testing with multiple mods, I was able to find that this mod is incompatible with sims4me's whiteboard_nocalltoaction mod(Removes the white outline from the High School whiteboard).
Issues that have occurred:
1. Unable to assign classes as accessing the whiteboard.
2. Class 2~4 teachers appear on the site but do not give lessons.
When I deleted that mod, some teachers still don't give lessons, but the whiteboard issue is fixed.
I hope it's a reference for you and others. Thank you so much for making a great mod and sorry for my bad English ;)
Sounds logical as I had to mod the whiteboards logic. So any mod that does things with them ...Added to the incompatible mods list.
Maybe in the future, when I have more energy again, I'll make a few compatibility mods.
(Just found out that the medication I've been taking for the last few months to combat stomach acid is robbing me of energy. I need to reduce the dose. And I thought the whole time it is because of the stress at work, that I wanted to sleep all the evenings
townieoverhaul_highschool: The game will fill all high school student roles with existing teenage sims instead of creating new ones. It will prefer filling the roles with teenagers your teenager has a good relationship with. It will also take existing Sims working in the respective careers for career day instead of creating new ones.
Conclusion: most likely yes. And quite seemless to use it together with this mod as ... you fill the roles manually with this mod. Maybe only for the careerday not creating new sims of use.
Thanks for asking/reporting, I'll add it to the incompatible mods list.
I've encountered one issue I may need some help with. When loading into the high school lot, it seems that I'm unable to select classes 1, 3, or 4 on the whiteboards. I've attempted adding an extra so there's 5 on the lot, but the options to assign the classroom just isn't showing up when I click on the whiteboards. Let me know if there's maybe something I could do differently, thanks! :)
And please read the description for assigning the teachers. So I do not have to repeat everthing that is already said.
- If not all choosen classmates, teachers, caterers appear:
Check if they are still assigned as Class Mates, are still teens, do still have the High School Career.
Check also Keep Sims in Home Region by Kuttoe (itch.io) for update if installed and enable the "High School Toggle" of it.
Seems like the "High School Toggle" of Keep Sims in Home Region by Kuttoe (itch.io) is not working for the teachers and caterers.
Move them to regions that are allowed to travel to Copperdale or allow their home regions for Copperdale..
If you have MCCC installed disable teenage can quit Highschool: MC Careers -> Teenagers quit school.
Set it to disable. (Had the case that teens, did not have the High School Career anymore)
The students are called additionally to the initial call between (7)8 am and 9am. Nevertheless it may happen that not all are called in
(For me, most times the last ones in the list if you push "remove" on the mail box menu.
Setting MCCC max sims in zone is seemless. See description: Maximum sims in Zone for high school lots is set to 100.
Possible Cause(Confidence: 30%)
My Script Mods\HighSchool\Scripts\MoreStudentsCore.py
Reason
Error during inventory load (RuntimeError: [Zone: 6890ecbcd9d0619] Object ID: [ee74d87160000018, 0x000000000000a6d2] is not OBJECT, PersistenceGroup = 3 )
Is there anything I can do to fix it?
Reminds me of a post far below. BetterException is not always pointing to the right mod.
Thank you in advance!
The High school package in general is a bit performance heavy even without mods. Maybe a google for increasing sims 4 performance may help.
I'll have a look. (The relationship autonomy started to annoy me and therefore I added the optional file: noNPCRelationShipAutonomy. I hope nothing from there sneaked into the main mod)
Edit: Had a look. I do not think the mod is interfering. In my game I do not have crushes as I disabled NPC Relationship Autonomy.
For example in job_HighSchool_Active_Base_NPC_Teacher2:
I think can be done simply by deleting the lines:
<V n="job_uniform" t="uniform_specified">
<U n="uniform_specified">
<E n="outfit_change_priority">High</E>
<E n="outfit_change_reason">Situation</E>
<V n="situation_outfit_generators" t="enabled">
<L n="enabled">
<U>
<T n="generator">303236<!--Outfit: outfit_HighSchool_Active_Teacher--></T>
</U>
</L>
</V>
</U>
</V>
Will do this as soon I have again a bit more time. (Most likely end of this month :-) )
But deleting that line out of the package worked, I suppose I need to do the same for NPC_Teacher 1,3 and 4 too ?
Also where would I have to edit to allow more than one Janitor present during highschool ? As it seems that it's always limited to one regardless of selecting multiple sims for the job.
Multiple Janitors? I think that one does the job great. By adding multiple sims to the janitor you just increase the pool. So there is a chance to see diferent Janitors on different days. (Edit: Just had a look in the janitor filter, do not think so as random is disabled there, I'll add to the todo list)
Having more than 1 janitor is a bit more work.
Also not sure if it's a glitch or bug, but the principle tends to leave her office and get angry at a particular student I have in class 1 even though they are sitting down with the other students in class when the study period is started. Going to rotate them into one of the other classes and see if it still persists.
It is quite easy to increase the number for them in the weeklySchedules:
Simply increase the 3 to whatever:
<U>
<U n="count">
<T n="lower_bound">3</T>
<T n="upper_bound">3</T>
</U>
<T n="situation">278011<!--TendObjectSituation: situation_Vendor_CafeteriaStation_HighSchool--></T>
<U n="start_time">
<T n="hour">10</T>
<T n="minute">30</T>
</U>
<U n="stop_time">
<T n="hour">14</T>
</U>
</U>
Don't get confused, the first one is defined to come earlier and stay longer at about line 50. Therefore there are 4 of them.
For the principle behaviour, I think that is a vanilla issue or something else. At least I do not have this behaviour in my game. But maybe he is yelling at the mean sim and as I play without one ...
Also regarding the student and principal issue, switching them to another class worked. Not entirely sure what caused it but least there's a way to fix it.