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  1. thefirebirdman
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    MA thanks for this mod for those that like it and are using it. Was hoping to get some help from the community on this topic. Looking for a way to make the chance drop for the TYPE of drop the same. Today it feels like about 80% of the legendary drops are melee weapons. I get so many. I would just like an even percentage chance to get:

    1) One of any weapon type
    2) One of any armor type

    How ever they have this set in vanilla it is lopsidedly biased towards melee weapons. I farmed a Legendary enemy one time just to see what happened. Killed him 3 times and the first two drops were melee weapons. Can't remember what the 3rd was... Its already hard to get a legendary drop in the first place, as you more often get rare or epic but it seems like a lot of both the epic and legendary drops are melee weapons. 
    1. fcoenriqueperez
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      I don't think that exist, the type seems to be random. 
  2. FreakySmiley
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    Here, I improved your mod. This works perfectly:
    setgs fDiffMultLegendaryChance_E 500
    setgs fDiffMultLegendaryChance_H 500
    setgs fDiffMultLegendaryChance_N 500
    setgs fDiffMultLegendaryChance_SV 500
    setgs fDiffMultLegendaryChance_VE 500
    setgs fDiffMultLegendaryChance_VH 500

    setgs fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_E 0.005
    setgs fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_H 0.005
    setgs fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_N 0.005
    setgs fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_SV 0.005
    setgs fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_VE 0.005
    setgs fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_VH 0.005
    LegendaryChange is the spawn chance of legendary enemies, so bigger equals more, and the other one for loot, which has to be low. Note: It is not "chance", but "rarity" that is relevant for the loot commands. That's why less is more here.
    1. DOOMBASED
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      Sorry, I wasn't really trying to make a cheat mod though.
    2. r1fast
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      Thanks @FreakySmiley this definitely works (almost too well haha).  Seeing Lengendaries 20-40 levels higher finally and regular Legendary drops.  I turned the rarity down a little to keep a little bit of suspense.  0.05 - .10 is just about right IMO.
    3. cjpack
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      I will have to try this out. I was checking the default values and for the spawn rate its 2.00 for VH and for the rarity its 1.00 for every difficulty. so yea making legendary enemies spawn 250 times more frequently and drops 2000 times less rare will def be noticeable lmao. ill try doubling the spawn rate and making the rarity 4 times less rare (.25) to see how that goes.
    4. UtopiA
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      For all future readers, I did some testing and the "Rarity" commands control the spawn rate of legendary enemies.  Not the loot.
      Lower = More legendary enemies.  I assume 0.005 means 99.995% of all enemies will be legendary.

      setgs fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_E 0.005
      setgs fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_H 0.005
      setgs fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_N 0.005
      setgs fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_SV 0.005
      setgs fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_VE 0.005
      setgs fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_VH 0.005

      I have no idea what "LegendaryChance" does, drop rates are much harder to test.
  3. Jayvee956
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    u
  4. RisqueResearch
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    wtf is that in the gif? a little gnome flailing and running away? xD
  5. madafakk
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    Unfortunately there's no chance in legendary drop rate. I tried different combinations with small numbers and large numbers, no difference at all. I tried other similar mods, too, but with the same results. Interesting, that WeMod cheats work perfectly, there's always a legendary drop if I use that trainer (but I'd like to avoid a third party app for this)
  6. vosszaa
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    I'm currently playing VH. Does this "setgs fDiffMultLegendaryChance_VH 1.000000" increase the spawn rate or would it do nothing?
    1. DOOMBASED
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      That would actually lower the chance because the default value for Very Hard is 2.000000.
    2. vosszaa
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      So.. what would be the good number to increase legendary spawn on VH? 4? 10? 100?
    3. tfrosty
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      I'm gonna try 6x and let you know. It'd be triple the very rare rates
  7. eradius
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    i assume "fDiffMultLegendaryChance" is a multiplier that effects the spawn rate of enemies with the multiple bars over their head. if this is the case then upping the value should increase the chance they spawn in battle yes? 

    fDiffMultLegendaryRarity on the other hand would seem to indicate the drop chance of a legendary item. so would a higher number mean you are more likely to receive a blue or purple over a leg item? so shouldnt that number be as low as possible? will do some testing to figure out what works best. thanks for bringing these to my attention however. the drop rates have been meh for me from about lvl 15 onwards. now lvl 60 so need to fix it

    update: okay so after a few hours of testing im not really any closer to figuring out how to guarantee a legendary will drop. as far as i can tell "fDiffMultLegendaryChance" is the spawn rate for legendary units and "fDiffMultLegendaryRarity" is the chance rate for legendary drops but is inverted % based on researching the engine values so the lower the better. fallout 4 being where i pulled this info. but honestly it doesnt seem to gel as i was getting some pretty crap items when i reduced those values to 0.10000. so there has to be more to it then those. looking at github the default values are as follows:

    fDiffMultLegendaryChance_VE, 0.500000, 0.250000, 0.250000, GameSetting
    fDiffMultLegendaryChance_E, 1.000000, 0.500000, 0.500000, GameSetting
    fDiffMultLegendaryChance_N, 2.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000, GameSetting
    fDiffMultLegendaryChance_H, 5.000000, 1.500000, 1.500000, GameSetting
    fDiffMultLegendaryChance_VH, 10.000000, 2.000000, 2.000000, GameSetting

    fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_VE, 10.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000, GameSetting
    fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_E, 5.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000, GameSetting
    fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_N, 2.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000, GameSetting
    fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_H, 1.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000, GameSetting
    fDiffMultLegendaryRarity_VH, 0.500000, 1.000000, 1.000000, GameSetting

    im missing something, perhaps there is RNG involved but the items im getting are often way way lower levels then the enemies im killing. like lvl 5 knife on a lvl 42 leg enemy and such

    Update 2:

    so i found these as well. though again dont seem to do much of anything. maybe the loot is set once you come into contact with a base. will try flying around for a bit instead of using the same place.

    fLegendaryChance_Weight_Rank_1, 60.000000, 60.000000, 60.000000, GameSetting
    fLegendaryChance_Weight_Rank_2, 30.000000, 30.000000, 30.000000, GameSetting
    fLegendaryChance_Weight_Rank_3, 10.000000, 10.000000, 10.000000, GameSetting

    uLegendaryRarity, 200, 6, 6, GameSetting
    1. cacodaemon
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      Anyone noticing a difference with this mod?  I don't see any difference in drops.
  8. sheepdog2142
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    Would there be a way to tailor the settings to remove all other rarity types except legendary? Id like to combine that with very rare legendarys.
    1. DOOMBASED
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      For that we would need plugins AFAIK.
  9. mmwookie
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    dumb english clarification question... vanilla survival has higher chance to get legendary items, or less chance?
    using the word rare in description might be tripping me up
    1. DOOMBASED
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      More Rare = Less drops
      Less Rare = More drops
  10. Mysteryporpoise
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    mestre ensinador! truly a legend