You do know that The Wizard admits to having a daughter somewhere in town right?
After a sufficient relationship is built up, Pierre will confess that he worries that Abigail is not his biological daughter. Later, the Wizard will mention that he has reason to believe one of the townsfolk is his daughter. At one point Caroline will mention that she used to visit the old tower to the west before she met Pierre.
Abigail mentions that she doesn't remember last time she dyed her hair and that it never fades from purple.
So, Yeah.. I don't mean to be that guy but the overwhelming evidence kinda points that out.
I know that there is some hard evidence that's she might be the Wizards daughter, and maybe the creator of the game will clarify it one day but for now let's pretend she's Pierre's daughter
tbh i dont even think abigail is caroline's daughter. It says that the witch was (or maybe still is) the wizard's wife and I think they had a child but used magic to alter the memories of caroline and pierre.
Reason I think this is because caroline says she use to go to the tower before she was with pierre, but she doesnt strike me as the type of girl to just meet some random wizard, bump uglies, then go on howdie doodie. And as I said the wizard and the witch were together and he doesnt strike me as the cheating type. Then if it did happen before pierre and caroline were together why would he think its his if she got pregnant before they met then it would be obvious.
Another reason I think they used mind altering magic, would explain why caroline specifically remembers abigail having the same color'd hair as pierre, despite neither the wizard nor caroline having pierre's hair color and abigail not remembering when she last dyed her hair, and if she actually did, sure it would blow my memory altering partially out of the water but they probably could have used magic to make her hair brown, and it only returned to purple because maybe abigail's inner magic came bubbling up without her knowing?
I just think that the wizard noticed caroline coming to his tower, the witch and wizard decided to observe her, or only just wait till she found a suitable husband, had the baby themselves, then shortly after abigail was born, used magic to insert abigail into their lives, maybe even altering everyones memories so no one would think it strange that the married couple suddenly had a baby out of nowhere. Idk its just a theory though. Theres still the possibility that the wizard forced himself on caroline or she really just went there, met the wizard, decided to be a, ill refrain from the s or w word and use 'dirty girl', and then found the first guy she could try and pass as the father. But im not one to believe caroline (even if shes fictional) to be that kind of girl
of course learning that the wizard is abigail's true father was abit disappointing, never really liked the wizard and really liked the idea of pierre being the father in law. (Game dev, why you do baby daddy melodrama! DX)
Well.....I think Abigail is the Wizard’s daughter. How come she can eat quarters without any medical complications? Tho it could be a coincidence that they both like quartz.
Let's examine this. There are four pieces of circumstantial evidence: Rasmodius confesses that he believes an unnamed person in the village is his child, Pierre states his own doubts that Abby is really his biological child, Caroline for her part states she went for walk outside the wizard's tower but stopped around the time Abby was born.
Four is Abby's less explainable traits. Eating gems is an ascended bug, which can be made canon for several reasons, and so trying to discern authorial intent from that is iffy at best. The purple hair is dye, yes but it has stayed in her hair indefinitely since she first dyed it so that's suspicious.
Now: one last factor is Death of the Author- under said principle ultimately it does not matter what Concerned Ape's intent is.
Option C: Abby has three parents, because magic. This is my own personal theory. Ras is a wizard, a wizard who steps out his door only on holidays. Caroline says she's been nearby but not in the tower. She could be lying or omitting, say she isn't. Say one day she is walking by, say Ras is experimenting inside and his magic 'goes wild' as it were and escapes the tower. Say this somehow means that when Abby was born months later she had three parents instead of two, even though one may never have even met the other two.
You will notice this fits to the letter of all the evidence in canon. So could for that matter the theory that an affair occurred or that it did not and Abby is Pierre's daughter. The fact remains that people suspect a lot of things and sometimes they right and sometimes their wrong.
But I like option C best, Abby gets the best of both worlds and no one gets hurt. Call it economy optimism. :)
[SPOILER] idk it this was recently added but if you have enough hearts with the wizard and abigail then visit him in his tower (I did a bit after 9pm), he'll admit that she is indeed his kid and not pierre's. he will also "show" you a flashback and a bit of backstory. poor pierre.
do you, by chance, have the stardew valley expanded mod? because I didn't see anything about the wizard confirming being abigail father in 1.5. that's pretty interesting though, I'm curious about this flashback.
Allow me to weigh in here because oh boy do I love mysteries, and I’ve thought about this one myself. It all started when the wizard talked about his wife the witch and his daughter, which was kind of weird for me since I use the harvest moon female sprite and portrait and went like “Oh my.” sounding like Sulu from the original Star Trek, but anyway I did some research and came up with another few theories about the wizard’s daughter rather than the obvious one.
First I went and checked who in SDV had unnatural hair colors and I came up with 7, then went from there. The wizard, Caroline, Abigail, Emily, Jas, Shane, Maru and Sandy. Now I’ll exclude Jas and Shane, both have purplish hair, but their story seems to check out. Maru because of the same latter reason and skin color. Sandy because she does not seem linked in story neither.
Theory 1: Caroline is the witch. I know she looks different than the one in game, although green skin and Caroline green hair, this might be Caroline’s true form and the other one a magical disguise or vice versa, and what that witch does is beneficial right? The fact that the witch is never at home and set the goblin to guard it, having a daughter, might mean she gave up her evil ways. As for her relation to the wizard that made her leave him, who knows he might have been a deadbeat husband or a workaholic
Theory 2: Caroline is the daughter, had Abigail and she had Pierre’s hair color at first, but changed color afterwards, due to…I don’t know…magic. Or maybe she did dye her hair and subconsciously cast a spell on it because she wanted it to be purple due to latent magical powers combined with her will. Would fix the inconsistencies in the story, Caroline saying she had Pierre’s hair color, Abigail dye job lasting forever. And Caroline going to the tower before she married Pierre, maybe she had a falling out with her father about loving a normal person or about Abigail being raised as a wizard and she not agreeing, although the former is the most likely.
Theory 3: Emily is the daughter, the only reason I even consider her is because while checking out her page on the wiki I noticed she has a portrait which shows her doing supernatural things with a Yoba symbol. I have no idea if she had that before the update which made her dateable nor have I seen it in game or at least can’t remember seeing it.
I’m betting on 1 or 2, since it would be good storytelling, and I also like the scenario where they used magic to insert her into the town, but I guess we will have to wait and see what the developer does with it, if anything at all.
Oh and thx for the mod regardless, I did use it until this daughter business came up. Also, I just realized I spend a few hours of my life trying to unravel a fictional mystery…worth it!
You realize part of what makes Stardew so interesting is how the bright and colorful world is juxtaposed by how messed up the town really is. You know, "fair is foul and foul is fair". While your at it make Shane a stable non-drinker, give Alex back his family, and make Pam not an abusive alcoholic, etc. etc. Contrary to appearances, Stardew Valley is not a kids game
Hey can I drop an option C here? What if Abby just has three biological parents? There is literally a wizard involved.
A wizard who experiments constantly with magic, never goes outside unless it's a holiday & even then only really interacts with Linus. Conversely Caroline never mentions having ever met Ras or been in his tower. This could be an omission, but given she walked by the tower frequently before and around the time Abigail was born could it be possible that something amazing happened without any of them immediately realizing?
Abby did dye her hair (she'd definitely tell the world if she met a real wizard, so I'm assuming the purple is a coincidence) Originally she had her grandmother's color and while Pier says he has doubts. Possibly caused by how low-key magic she is, eating the impossible (technically an ascended glitch but I'm counting it) and changing her natural color.
I got nothing there, no matter who Abby's parents are, she's absolutely magic. (I have a personal headcanon all the residents can do minor unconscious magic from time to time, but I'll spare you the rant- its not really evidence-based anyhow)
Was about to sass about other's comments, then I saw your's. Your's is the correct answer. Abby indeed dyes her hair.
To affirm this asside from being an eye-witness, here's some proof: "I wish Abby would dress more appropriately and stop dyeing her hair blue. She has such a wonderful natural hair color, just like her grandmother did." --Caroline / https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Abigail
So, yeah, no conspiracy b.s. people, she just dyes them locks of her's.
FYI though, I did download this mod for the wizard's recoloring though, he looks better this way..
But then Abigail says she has stopped dyeing her hair yet it remains purple - ie it's magically changed colour because she wanted it to, probably because the wizard is her grandfather/Caroline's father
There is no actual evidence she's his daughter or that she isn't his daughter. Comments made by all NPCs involved contradict each other alot. Honestly it doesn't even really matter, if Pierre is a real man he knows blood is only important to morons, family is who you make it.
Yes, it's never clearly stated that one is her father and the other is not, but different ppl have different opinions and preferences and calling someone a moron just because you don't like that other persons opinion (or preferences or whatever) is close minded. You don't have agree with me and that's alright because it's important to have your own opinion, but don't be a d*ck and call ppl morons just because they don't agree with something.
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After a sufficient relationship is built up, Pierre will confess that he worries that Abigail is not his biological daughter. Later, the Wizard will mention that he has reason to believe one of the townsfolk is his daughter. At one point Caroline will mention that she used to visit the old tower to the west before she met Pierre.
Abigail mentions that she doesn't remember last time she dyed her hair and that it never fades from purple.
So, Yeah.. I don't mean to be that guy but the overwhelming evidence kinda points that out.
Reason I think this is because caroline says she use to go to the tower before she was with pierre, but she doesnt strike me as the type of girl to just meet some random wizard, bump uglies, then go on howdie doodie. And as I said the wizard and the witch were together and he doesnt strike me as the cheating type. Then if it did happen before pierre and caroline were together why would he think its his if she got pregnant before they met then it would be obvious.
Another reason I think they used mind altering magic, would explain why caroline specifically remembers abigail having the same color'd hair as pierre, despite neither the wizard nor caroline having pierre's hair color and abigail not remembering when she last dyed her hair, and if she actually did, sure it would blow my memory altering partially out of the water but they probably could have used magic to make her hair brown, and it only returned to purple because maybe abigail's inner magic came bubbling up without her knowing?
I just think that the wizard noticed caroline coming to his tower, the witch and wizard decided to observe her, or only just wait till she found a suitable husband, had the baby themselves, then shortly after abigail was born, used magic to insert abigail into their lives, maybe even altering everyones memories so no one would think it strange that the married couple suddenly had a baby out of nowhere. Idk its just a theory though. Theres still the possibility that the wizard forced himself on caroline or she really just went there, met the wizard, decided to be a, ill refrain from the s or w word and use 'dirty girl', and then found the first guy she could try and pass as the father. But im not one to believe caroline (even if shes fictional) to be that kind of girl
Four is Abby's less explainable traits. Eating gems is an ascended bug, which can be made canon for several reasons, and so trying to discern authorial intent from that is iffy at best. The purple hair is dye, yes but it has stayed in her hair indefinitely since she first dyed it so that's suspicious.
Now: one last factor is Death of the Author- under said principle ultimately it does not matter what Concerned Ape's intent is.
Option C: Abby has three parents, because magic. This is my own personal theory. Ras is a wizard, a wizard who steps out his door only on holidays. Caroline says she's been nearby but not in the tower. She could be lying or omitting, say she isn't. Say one day she is walking by, say Ras is experimenting inside and his magic 'goes wild' as it were and escapes the tower. Say this somehow means that when Abby was born months later she had three parents instead of two, even though one may never have even met the other two.
You will notice this fits to the letter of all the evidence in canon. So could for that matter the theory that an affair occurred or that it did not and Abby is Pierre's daughter. The fact remains that people suspect a lot of things and sometimes they right and sometimes their wrong.
But I like option C best, Abby gets the best of both worlds and no one gets hurt. Call it economy optimism. :)
idk it this was recently added but if you have enough hearts with the wizard and abigail then visit him in his tower (I did a bit after 9pm), he'll admit that she is indeed his kid and not pierre's. he will also "show" you a flashback and a bit of backstory.
poor pierre.
First I went and checked who in SDV had unnatural hair colors and I came up with 7, then went from there. The wizard, Caroline, Abigail, Emily, Jas, Shane, Maru and Sandy. Now I’ll exclude Jas and Shane, both have purplish hair, but their story seems to check out. Maru because of the same latter reason and skin color. Sandy because she does not seem linked in story neither.
Theory 1: Caroline is the witch. I know she looks different than the one in game, although green skin and Caroline green hair, this might be Caroline’s true form and the other one a magical disguise or vice versa, and what that witch does is beneficial right? The fact that the witch is never at home and set the goblin to guard it, having a daughter, might mean she gave up her evil ways. As for her relation to the wizard that made her leave him, who knows he might have been a deadbeat husband or a workaholic
Theory 2: Caroline is the daughter, had Abigail and she had Pierre’s hair color at first, but changed color afterwards, due to…I don’t know…magic. Or maybe she did dye her hair and subconsciously cast a spell on it because she wanted it to be purple due to latent magical powers combined with her will. Would fix the inconsistencies in the story, Caroline saying she had Pierre’s hair color, Abigail dye job lasting forever. And Caroline going to the tower before she married Pierre, maybe she had a falling out with her father about loving a normal person or about Abigail being raised as a wizard and she not agreeing, although the former is the most likely.
Theory 3: Emily is the daughter, the only reason I even consider her is because while checking out her page on the wiki I noticed she has a portrait which shows her doing supernatural things with a Yoba symbol. I have no idea if she had that before the update which made her dateable nor have I seen it in game or at least can’t remember seeing it.
I’m betting on 1 or 2, since it would be good storytelling, and I also like the scenario where they used magic to insert her into the town, but I guess we will have to wait and see what the developer does with it, if anything at all.
Oh and thx for the mod regardless, I did use it until this daughter business came up.
Also, I just realized I spend a few hours of my life trying to unravel a fictional mystery…worth it!
A wizard who experiments constantly with magic, never goes outside unless it's a holiday & even then only really interacts with Linus. Conversely Caroline never mentions having ever met Ras or been in his tower. This could be an omission, but given she walked by the tower frequently before and around the time Abigail was born could it be possible that something amazing happened without any of them immediately realizing?
Abby did dye her hair (she'd definitely tell the world if she met a real wizard, so I'm assuming the purple is a coincidence) Originally she had her grandmother's color and while Pier says he has doubts. Possibly caused by how low-key magic she is, eating the impossible (technically an ascended glitch but I'm counting it) and changing her natural color.
I got nothing there, no matter who Abby's parents are, she's absolutely magic.
(I have a personal headcanon all the residents can do minor unconscious magic from time to time, but I'll spare you the rant- its not really evidence-based anyhow)
Your's is the correct answer. Abby indeed dyes her hair.
To affirm this asside from being an eye-witness, here's some proof: "I wish Abby would dress more appropriately and stop dyeing her hair blue. She has such a wonderful natural hair color, just like her grandmother did." --Caroline / https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Abigail
So, yeah, no conspiracy b.s. people, she just dyes them locks of her's.
FYI though, I did download this mod for the wizard's recoloring though, he looks better this way..
I wonder if SDV has a version of Maury Povich..