The version 2.9 is a complete Redo. The reason: 2.8 was originally designed to be a small hideout. It used in-game Midland dark building kit which is really Skyrim's Thieves guild ratway. The walls and floors had several layers of textures and Effect Shaders on them. The Skyrim kit for ratway didn't have many replacement textures and the kit really had limited flexibility.
Because of this I Opted for custom mesh walls with Windhelm, farmhouse and Riften textures knowing that the community offers more for these texture sets. The goal was to have a hideout that can access hobo chest with a patch and allow room for a BYOH garden and display area.
There are many mods for the college as well, and because of this, I opted to remove access directly into the college which would eliminate mod conflict, and the need for another patch. Version 2.9 should not be used with Patch for WinterholdHideOut_ObsuresCollege.
Patch for WinterholdHideOut_ObsuresCollege is not required, and might crash the game because it was designed for version 2.8. This is why it is listed with older version.
The Statues is just NOT THERE, AT ALL.. I run NO mods which change Winterhold in any way, the mod is installed and showing in my mod list... but no statue.
This is a must have mod for me. Love it. Love the bath and the shrine garden and love the teleporter. I sometimes get crashes that always start with the entrance to your hideout from the hall of attainment and I'm not sure why they always trigger there. I'm not sure if it's something in my mod list that ultimately triggers there or if it's something else. I don't expect you to just solve it like you have nothing better to do but if you have any suggestions, that would be great!
Is there any chance you still have the old version 2.8? The 2.9 version only has one entrance and doesn't go to the hall of attainment. The older 2.8 has to be completely removed before adding 2.9 or keep 2.8 but having both would crash the game.
Hi, this is a great mod, but I like using v2.8. Based on the changelog, it appears that there used to be an ICOW patch for that version. Is it possible to re-upload the ICOW patch for v2.8, or to send it to me? Otherwise I have to TCL through the wall for direct college access. Thanks btw.
ICOW - Immersive College of Winterhold. I noticed that in the changelog for 2.9 it says that "a patch for Immersive College of Winterhold is no longer needed."
2.9 didn't need the patch because there is only one entrance and exit which is the statue. 2.8 never had a patch in SE for Immersive College of Winterhold. I had it for Skyrim version only.
Were you using skyrim version before? 2.8
I will try making a new one for 2.8 not to be used with 2.9. Could transfer the other when I can download newest version of ICOW and download older version 2.8.
Ah, I see now; the old patch was for the statue, and regular Skyrim.
I thought it must have been for the exit door inside the Hall of Attainment, which is now blocked (I'm guessing, due the to ICOW v6 update). Thanks for talking me through this and even attempting a patch.
I downloaded the latest ICOW and made a patch to work with the older version 2.8. This patch is only an esp that moves the second door, trap door exit, to Winterhold College courtyard. Nothing else was changed.
HI jq. Really love the mod. My new favourite house mod. just a couple of things? the workbench is away from the wall in this and the hobo centres mod and also are the books in the crafting area on the table supposed to give buffs to smithing and alchemy/enchanting? because no buffs and a marker on the floor that says translate? any help or advise with these couple of things would be really appreciated as always.
Yes the workbench is not up against the wall. There is a storage chest above the workbench and I didn't want the character's head to get to close to it.
The books on the table don't carry a buff just animation. The scripts from Hobo Crafting Centers for book reading can't carry over to the patch without creating a BSA for the patch that is why it is not in the description. The patch adds only:
1. 13 linked Hobo storage containers that connect to any 5 Hobo Crafting Center. 2. Potion enhancer 3. Soap effect 4. A Mead barrel that allows player drinking animation.
I might try to find another way to do bluffs with in-game spells no added scripts.
Hi jq. Just stared using this on a new save and im loving it so far. love the simple layout. just one question though. the statue to the exit to winterhold is missing? if i clip though the wall its there! any idea what could be causing this? any help you could give me to sort this would be appreciated sorted it by removing the patch for winterhold restored and hideout and worked.
The patch was for the earlier version 2.8 which is a completely different design. The 2.8 version statue is in another room that doesn't exist in the new 2.9 version.
To minimize files needed place winterholdhideout 2.9 higher than winterholdrestore and it will be fine. Don't use patch 2.8 because that is a different design.
Did a great job but the 2.8 version was a nicer layout. 2.9 version I like the new items you added.
Did you ever think to have the painting on the wall be able to teleport your character anywhere in the college?
Unfortunately I think I'll go back to the 2.8 version the new addons for a place to put the claws and other items found in skyrim is great but the layout for me is confusing and the paneling reminds of something used in the 60's. :(
Okay, The panels are in game Skyrim textures Windhelm. I wasn't trying to make the file too big. There are plenty of texture replacements for Windhelm. Here are two: Sexy Windhelm and Noble Skyrim Mod HD-2K.
The earlier version was Midland dark textures which is actually Ratway. The problem with Ratway texture set is that it is memory intensive and not many texture packs that would have looked nice..
Why did you remove the only reason I was using this mod. I have always hated that a non mage Character was forced to join the College just to be able to finish the Dawnguard questline. I loved that this mod gave me access to the College without joining the College so I could finish the Dawnguard questline. Because I think it is very unimmersive that a nonmage is joining the College of Winterhold which teach magic and nothing else. So I will never use the 2.9 version I just go back to 2.8 so I can finish the Dawnguard questline with a strictly non magic user.
Please feel free to use 2.8 then. However, you could use a shout to get into the college, magic was never required.
EDIT: One more add: If you are in the middle of your game with an earlier version, you shouldn't download 2.9. It states this on file short description.
I can shout me in? I didn't know that. All these years playing Oldrim and Skyrim SE and I never knew that. Is it enough to finish the horn of Jurgen Windcaller or do I need to finish the main questline? Sorry this went a little of topic.
I remember doing the shout after the horn of Jurgen Windcaller . Urag gro-Shub will say so you are the one the Greybeards were calling.
Having stated that you don't want to download 2.9, if you had 2.8 in your save game. Skyrim's save game keeps the position of activators and scripts in your save game.
Per wiki: If you are on the quest Elder Knowledge you can also mention that you are Dragonborn. She will then ask to see a shout. Either of these will get you in without needing to cast a spell.
So it looks like I went there a little later than sooner.
Thanks for the answer I didn't know that thanks for telling me. Well I can give 2.9 a try now because my savefile broke because of me fiddling to much with another mod which even broke my Vortexprofile. And if I can shout me in then I don't need a "secret" way into the college. But I will keep the 2.8 in my modmanager because sometimes I like to play as a non dragonborn then 2.8 will have a purpose.
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2.8 was originally designed to be a small hideout. It used in-game Midland dark building kit which is really Skyrim's Thieves guild ratway. The walls and floors had several layers of textures and Effect Shaders on them. The Skyrim kit for ratway didn't have many replacement textures and the kit really had limited flexibility.
Because of this I Opted for custom mesh walls with Windhelm, farmhouse and Riften textures knowing that the community offers more for these texture sets. The goal was to have a hideout that can access hobo chest with a patch and allow room for a BYOH garden and display area.
There are many mods for the college as well, and because of this, I opted to remove access directly into the college which would eliminate mod conflict, and the need for another patch. Version 2.9 should not be used with Patch for WinterholdHideOut_ObsuresCollege.
Patch for WinterholdHideOut_ObsuresCollege is not required, and might crash the game because it was designed for version 2.8. This is why it is listed with older version.
I like this mod.
It only sees 2 child beds no matter what i do though.
Also, can you please add 1 or 2 underground greenhouses.
Again, love it.
Thank you for you work.
There is a patch for Obscure's College of Winterhold and Winterhold hideout 2.8 listed in older files.
Were you using skyrim version before? 2.8
I will try making a new one for 2.8 not to be used with 2.9. Could transfer the other when I can download newest version of ICOW and download older version 2.8.
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/82907?tab=files
I thought it must have been for the exit door inside the Hall of Attainment, which is now blocked (I'm guessing, due the to ICOW v6 update). Thanks for talking me through this and even attempting a patch.
The books on the table don't carry a buff just animation. The scripts from Hobo Crafting Centers for book reading can't carry over to the patch without creating a BSA for the patch that is why it is not in the description. The patch adds only:
1. 13 linked Hobo storage containers that connect to any 5 Hobo Crafting Center.
2. Potion enhancer
3. Soap effect
4. A Mead barrel that allows player drinking animation.
I might try to find another way to do bluffs with in-game spells no added scripts.
sorted it by removing the patch for winterhold restored and hideout and worked.
To minimize files needed place winterholdhideout 2.9 higher than winterholdrestore and it will be fine. Don't use patch 2.8 because that is a different design.
Did you ever think to have the painting on the wall be able to teleport your character anywhere in the college?
Unfortunately I think I'll go back to the 2.8 version the new addons for a place to put the claws and other items found in skyrim is great but the layout for me is confusing and the paneling reminds of something used in the 60's. :(
Sexy Windhelm and Noble Skyrim Mod HD-2K.
The earlier version was Midland dark textures which is actually Ratway. The problem with Ratway texture set is that it is memory intensive and not many texture packs that would have looked nice..
EDIT: One more add: If you are in the middle of your game with an earlier version, you shouldn't download 2.9. It states this on file short description.
Having stated that you don't want to download 2.9, if you had 2.8 in your save game. Skyrim's save game keeps the position of activators and scripts in your save game.
Per wiki: If you are on the quest Elder Knowledge you can also mention that you are Dragonborn. She will then ask to see a shout. Either of these will get you in without needing to cast a spell.
So it looks like I went there a little later than sooner.