My Goodness this is OP *80%* faster skill learning to ALL and 3 times faster for magic?....Wut the wut, I guess if you are in a hurry to get to 50th or something go for it. Not for me sorry I want to *slow* leveling its already too fast like most ES games.
The Guardian stones are x3 leveling (Thief/Warrior/Mage) for those who plan to grind + have played the game 1000x times already, but still don't want to cheat. On the other hand, those 3 stones no longer give any other type of buff.
Nobody is making you use those 3 Standing Stones.
*You could also use my 'Unlimited Training + Slower Leveling' mod, if slower leveling is what you want.
I use this mod with Survival Mode...and I have no issues. In fact, I know others who use Survival Mode with this Standing Stone mod, and they also don't have any issues.
Surivial Mode makes changes to the Steed Stone. I have not tried using the stone yet but seeing you also made changes to the Steed Stone, I figured they may not be compatible.
Yeah, it's a case of 'whichever mod loads last wins'...just load my mod after Survival Mod (and any Survival Patches you might use) if you want the Steed Stone to operate with my changes.
I'm confused as to what the Atronach stone actually does now based on the change logs. Is it the version requiring the cloak spell or is it the vanilla effect? If the former the utility is very much reduced since the stone will be avoided by any character without sufficient skill in Destruction.
This version of the Atronach Stone requires the Cloak Spell to gain 100% absorption vs the matching elemental damage.
Seperate from Elemental Cloak requirements, it also gives you a magicka cost reduction for elemental type spells, but increases costs for non-elemental spells.
*Even if you can't cast Destruction Spells, you CAN still use fire/frost/electrical cloak SCROLLS to benefit from this stone. Additionally, the Dunmer's 'Ancestor's Wrath' race ability also works. Finally, you can also use the 0 magicka cost Black Book to power up your cloak spells.
**Any mods that add the elemental cloak effect to weapons/armor/abilities will also work with this Stone.
I found the Lord stone's description a little unclear. I know that this is how vanilla skyrim worded it, but i personally prefer the USSEP version, which change it to "armor rating" insead of "damage resistance". its just unintuitive to have two things that work quite differently be called so similarily(damage resist vs magic resist) of course, being more of a vanilla+ overhaul, it is also understandble to keep the description as close to vanilla as possible.
What will (should) happen is you'll have the old Standing Stone effect until you use the next Standing Stone = at that point, my mod's changes will take effect.
You mean the version where 'Atronach stone works 100% vs elemental damage while you have the matching cloak spell in effect'? + you gain a casting cost bonus for elemental spells as well....but also gain a casting cost penalty for non elemental spells. Is that the one you mean?
I agree that it matches the Lore perfectly....and makes more sense than the generic 50% against all effects (some which aren't even magic). How is that 'Atronach' related?!?
However, many users didn't like the added complexity = I made it more like vanilla...except increased the penalty (no magicka regen) and didn't give the +50 magicka.
But that older version is still available. It's version 2.9, and you can download it from the download section (older files).
Can we get a standalone or a choice during installing for the Atronach Stone? I like the current balance of new version a lot more but also really love your Ideal for the Atronach power.
Sorry for the late reply, there's something wrong with my computer and I was trying to fix it for 2 day straight. May have to reinstall Win for this one sadly. Also yes pls do, I really appreciate your work and thank you for actually go out and does this for me.
Alright, I've made a new (cleaner) version of 2.9 + updated to the most recent changes (3.7) + even updated the Loading Screen messages. I think I'll be using this new version (3.7 Atronach) for myself as well.
Enjoy!
*I removed the Serpent Stone poison Immunity in this special version...but enhanced the poison damage for it's special attack.
"most experienced players will simply choose the Lord Stone or the Atronach Stone for their destiny."
I'm gonna cry foul on that. This is what someone says when they assume that there's a right and a wrong way to play a game and that being an "experienced player" predicts someone's play-style in specific ways. In fact it's a narrow view of a certain demographic of players and says more about that persons' own biases and assumptions than anything else.
You're right. It's more like most powergamers simply choose the Lord Stone or the Atronach Stone. An experienced player might want to try something different because he knows the potential of other stones for his build, or simply because he wants a more fun option.
Sorry my 'own biases and assumptions' offended you. I'm glad you took the time to showcase your epic level awareness + righteousness!
I'm sure that all the free mods you worked hard on to share with others are superior to mine....oh wait, I see you haven't made/shared ANY mods! Not a single one!
But please keep sharing your helpful criticism while contributing absolutely nothing to the community!
Yeah, you're right. I should have said 'most powergamers', not 'most experienced players'....in fact, I'm going to take your point and adjust my mod page description.
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Nobody is making you use those 3 Standing Stones.
*You could also use my 'Unlimited Training + Slower Leveling' mod, if slower leveling is what you want.
Can you tell me what issues you are having?
This version of the Atronach Stone requires the Cloak Spell to gain 100% absorption vs the matching elemental damage.
Seperate from Elemental Cloak requirements, it also gives you a magicka cost reduction for elemental type spells, but increases costs for non-elemental spells.
*Even if you can't cast Destruction Spells, you CAN still use fire/frost/electrical cloak SCROLLS to benefit from this stone. Additionally, the Dunmer's 'Ancestor's Wrath' race ability also works. Finally, you can also use the 0 magicka cost Black Book to power up your cloak spells.
**Any mods that add the elemental cloak effect to weapons/armor/abilities will also work with this Stone.
of course, being more of a vanilla+ overhaul, it is also understandble to keep the description as close to vanilla as possible.
What will (should) happen is you'll have the old Standing Stone effect until you use the next Standing Stone = at that point, my mod's changes will take effect.
Happy New Year!
Happy new year to you as well :)
I agree that it matches the Lore perfectly....and makes more sense than the generic 50% against all effects (some which aren't even magic). How is that 'Atronach' related?!?
However, many users didn't like the added complexity = I made it more like vanilla...except increased the penalty (no magicka regen) and didn't give the +50 magicka.
But that older version is still available. It's version 2.9, and you can download it from the download section (older files).
Does that help?
Are you saying you want the Guardian stones giving x3 leveling + version 2.9 Elemental Cloak+Atronach Stone version?
Just to confirm,
v2.9 Atronach
+
3.7 Guardian Stones giving x3 leveling, but nothing else
.....am I missing anything?
Is what you want basically 2.9 (with the Lore Atronach Stone workings) + the Guardian Stones having 3x leveling (and nothing else).
I'm basically making this a separate mod for you, so you need to tell me if the above is all you are asking for.
Enjoy!
*I removed the Serpent Stone poison Immunity in this special version...but enhanced the poison damage for it's special attack.
I'm gonna cry foul on that. This is what someone says when they assume that there's a right and a wrong way to play a game and that being an "experienced player" predicts someone's play-style in specific ways. In fact it's a narrow view of a certain demographic of players and says more about that persons' own biases and assumptions than anything else.
Sorry my 'own biases and assumptions' offended you. I'm glad you took the time to showcase your epic level awareness + righteousness!
I'm sure that all the free mods you worked hard on to share with others are superior to mine....oh wait, I see you haven't made/shared ANY mods! Not a single one!
But please keep sharing your helpful criticism while contributing absolutely nothing to the community!
Yeah, you're right. I should have said 'most powergamers', not 'most experienced players'....in fact, I'm going to take your point and adjust my mod page description.
Cheers