Fantastic mod but just to let you know. When running the dyndolod functionality and creating textures for it, it pops up with an error for these three characters stating that esp files contain file form ids which are outside of esl limits. Error can cause CTD or worse if not rectified. Unable to fix errors with mator the eternal's third party applications and also the sseedit application. These three mods seemed to be perfect and look immense but for dyndolod users if you get the same issue then you know it is because of these mods. If you do not use dyndolod then no worries as these mods seem stable just that mators batch processing will not tolerate them. This is for information purposes only and I still give thanks to poetic ants mods as well as other collabirating mod authors who have worked on them. You can either disable them then run dyndolod or not use them but that is up to end users. Please keep making these mods however as they do look immense indeed and the ESL flag is highly appreciated and all follower mods should be the same.
That might explain the three users below who have the same problem. I don't use dyndolod and I don't get any errors and they are clean on my end. They fixed their problems by removing the esl flags. Did you try that?
I test Ivar, I have NFF, I don't have any dialogue (and no dialogue mod overhaul in my modlist except NFF), when I use NFF to force as follower, got a msg saying : this npc can't be a follower. Are they just here to be there?🤔
Tried both sets of files for Ivar and Njal and no dialog options appear. I've given up on them, but if someone happens to have a fix for this I may return to them as I like the way they look. And yes, I use AFT, and yes, they are loaded below it, like the previous person's problem but it is still not fixed.
Hey, I'm having a small issue with Ivar. I can't engage in dialog with him. I can get him to say "hello" and "can I help you" but I get no option to talk back. I don't really understand why that's happening. I've reinstalled the mod a few times and deactivated my other follower mods, but I get the same results. Any ideas or tips would be very much appreciated as I would love to have this mod working properly.
I have Amazing Follower Tweaks which lets you have multiple followers and control their armor, fighting style, etc. Is that considered a follower framework?
I know what AFT is. Yes, that's a follower framework. Make sure my followers are below that mod. Followers and NPCs should be towards the bottom of your load order, above patches.
My mods are loaded with Ivar being at the very bottom and AFT fourth from the bottom. Is that what you mean? Because I still can't talk to Ivar, sorry if I'm being frustrating I'm still new to modding
It's okay, but I'm not sure what is going on. The last time I had a problem talking to a follower, it was my AFT.
What about Relationship Dialogue mod? Do you use that? I can't remember the order it goes in... before or after AFT. Double-check over there, if you're using that. That also has an AFT patch required. If you use RDO, I think, that goes after AFT, but don't hold me to that. I don't really use it.
If you don't have it, try using it. Because I have set him up as marriageable, I may require RDO.
??Hello, a friend of mine tried these one, had a issue (no dialog option for recruitement), and she's using AFT, I tried myself Ivar (esl), and I had the same issue, no dialong option for recruitement :
Hm, might be some conflict there? Because I use these followers without any issues (the ESL versions) and I have NFF and that NPC outfit manager too. As I think I recognize those 2 dialogue lines you have available
Did you try to move them lower in your load order? Or did you try to check for conflicts? But I don't think anything would directly conflict with these followers :/ Or do you have any mods that would alter follower recruiting in general with some conditions?
Pretty low on load order (was at the very bottom in fact), follower are supposed to be stand alone (had almost 50 of them on one playtrought, never had an issue), and nothing supposed altering follower recruitement (beside NFF)
Katschaba is right. There has to be a conflict. No one else is having this problem and I always use Ivar. He always works for me. I use the esl version too with no issues. AFT does have periodic issues. Your friend may want to check for AFT conflicts in SSEEdit.
My friend use AFT, and I use NFF, and with have the same issue, and others follower have no problems, as seen above, it's Illia (Vanilla), and off screen Lucien and Inigo are following me, had no issue recruiting another custom one (nerida) and my friend have Kaidan and a pet wolf, really strange issue
I can't tell you. I really don't know. I'm sorry. I haven't had this problem. Sometimes I can't recruit if I have too many followers. I use AFT and despite me being able to recruit 30 followers, I can only recruit 5 max. I don't know why. AFT is twitchy. I have never used NFF. Kaidan, Inigo, and Lucien all have their own follower framework, so they don't really count. Illia is an NPC, not a follower mod, so she's set up a bit differently. Again, I have no problems with Ivar or any of my other followers. They are all made the same as other followers. I haven't heard of this issue at all up until now. Have you tried another follower mod that doesn't use its own follower framework and is not an NPC and not one of mine? If another follower has the same issue (that is not mine), then it's probably a conflict.
As for managing followers I prefer NFF, because it doesn't have the issues AFT does and won't break your saves Hands down the best follower manager mod in my opinion
And I would try what PA44 suggests, try to recruit any different follower using vanilla system and see if you have trouble recuiting them too, as PA44's followers use the vanilla system. And also a question you installed this mod by downloading it here on the Nexus and installing it yourself with the help of a mod manager? Not as a part of some modlist and using Wabbajack right?
Hi! After dismissing Galendor, when entering the Thieves Guild Cistern, all game sound gets disabled, and the game completely freezes after some time. Is there a way I can fix this?
Hey. So, I went and did a quick run with him in the Thieves Guild, dismissed him and all is working fine on my end. You might have some mod conflict. Does this happen with any follower? Have you tested that? Because Galendor works just fine for me. There might be some mod conflict.
Are you sure it's when you dismiss the follower and not after a while being in the Thieves Guild? Have you tried spending time in there without a follower? Generally, a conflict like that has to do with the Thieves Guild, not a follower. You might have conflicting mods for Thieves Guild. I can't really say. I would download SSEEdit and learn to find issues with conflicting mods.
Confirmed unrelated to this mod. I don't think it's a conflict either, it might have been Steam Proton having a bug. When I tested it again after reboot of Steam (without changing anything in the load order) it worked again. Sorry for the wrong report.
OK, so I come here for advice, because I can't figure it out.
But all of these 3 followers are missing feet textures, see the pictures below. But when I checked randomly other males in my game, their feet look fine. Even your other follower Arik has his feet fine. So I can't figure out why these 3 don't Because I thought they should have the meshes and textures I have installed for males, so there shouldn't be any conflicts with their own bodies right? And Vortex doesn't show me any conflicts. Any ideas what could be the issue?
I had someone else have this problem but it had to do with his skin. I had to double check my followed because of it and they are fine in my end for my skin. I was checking my Androgynous followers. But I’ve seen these guys naked and their feet were fine. He was using... what was it? It’s an old one that changes the meshes too. Like Better Males or something which has that bug...it’s known, but there’s only a fix for it on LE. What mesh/skin mod are you using?
My son had to take over my computer for school but when he’s done I will double-check anyway. I’m sure it had to do with your skin/mesh mod because I do t add anything like that to my followers.
Edit: Checked Ivar. Yep, using Tempered Skins does that for me for Ivar only. But not Androgenous followers (I have both currently with me.). Ivar works fine with SAM. I will take a look at the mod and see what I did differently between the two.
Edit: I have body parts in there that aren't necessary. I can remove them and it works, but I have to remove the ESL flag. I haven't been able to re-add the flagging. That means I will have to probably rebuild the entire three followers from scratch and start over. I removed the body parts and Ivar worked on my test, but I wasn't able to get that flag going again. I have other things going on, but I will get to it at some point this week.
I use Tempered Skins for SoS light. I had Ivar with me and noticed it in his case first. Then I went to check others if they have it too. I don't use your Androgenous followers, so I don't know about them. I have only Arik the Lighthearted from your other followers and he is fine
I didn't make these followers, so the person added torso, hands, and feet, which really aren't needed unless I'm adding skins, which I don't. I've removed them and their feet look good now, but I am having problems re-flagging them for ESL. They either won't show up or they won't work with the follower framework. But they do not flag. I've asked a friend to help. I did manage to fix them all though, deciding to just get it done because it will bug me all day lol. Do you want them not ESL flagged? I can get them loaded if you want. I will load those versions anyway, but I want to do it at the same time as the flagged versions if my friend can do it.
I would prefer the ESL version, if it could be done And definitely follower framework compatible, because I can't live without NFF
But maybe it could be fixed on my end too? Like just copy meshes and textures to their folders? (If I can find their folders first )
And I wanted to mention that I absolutely love the voice you picked for Ivar. Really great And I keep wondering all time what voice is that, because I think I don't hear it often Like it's not the type that is used by Vilkas, Farkas or Marcurio (at least I think these 3 characters have 3 different voice types )
No, the reason they had a foot problem is that the mod had added mesh/body parts when there was no need for it. You can remove the body parts in SSEEdit, but you can't save the changes unless the ESL flag is removed first. Once you add it back, is where the problems arise.
As for Ivar's voice, I liked it too. But it's not a marriageable voice, which is why it's not used often. I figured we didn't have to marry all of our followers, so I gave him a more unique voice lol.
So, according to my quick test in existing save they seem to be working fine. And their feet are definitely fine! So thank you for that
I actually met a few hiccups updating in existing save Because I had Ivar and Galendor already imported in NFF and had them with me. So when I updated, it went kinda bonkers, with them reseting to their starting location but they were behaving like they were following but actually weren't. So I had to revert to the previous versions, load the save, dismiss them and just to be sure purged them completely from NFF and reinstalled again. Now I recruited them back and they seem to be behaving like they should be At least Ivar and Galendor, I haven't met Njal yet in this save, but I assume he will be definitely alright because I haven't met thim yet
So really, thank you so much for these followers and for your support
Yeah, the same thing happened to me and Ivar. It's probably why he was so wonky when I was fixing them. But when I went to see Njal and Galendor, who weren't part of my followers, they worked fine. Glad you got it all sorted!
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Are they just here to be there?🤔
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What about Relationship Dialogue mod? Do you use that? I can't remember the order it goes in... before or after AFT. Double-check over there, if you're using that. That also has an AFT patch required. If you use RDO, I think, that goes after AFT, but don't hold me to that. I don't really use it.
If you don't have it, try using it. Because I have set him up as marriageable, I may require RDO.
??Hello, a friend of mine tried these one, had a issue (no dialog option for recruitement), and she's using AFT, I tried myself Ivar (esl), and I had the same issue, no dialong option for recruitement :
Did you try to move them lower in your load order? Or did you try to check for conflicts? But I don't think anything would directly conflict with these followers :/ Or do you have any mods that would alter follower recruiting in general with some conditions?
You can use SSEEdit to find conflicts.
If you find the conflict, you can make a Patch.
And I would try what PA44 suggests, try to recruit any different follower using vanilla system and see if you have trouble recuiting them too, as PA44's followers use the vanilla system. And also a question you installed this mod by downloading it here on the Nexus and installing it yourself with the help of a mod manager? Not as a part of some modlist and using Wabbajack right?
Are you sure it's when you dismiss the follower and not after a while being in the Thieves Guild? Have you tried spending time in there without a follower? Generally, a conflict like that has to do with the Thieves Guild, not a follower. You might have conflicting mods for Thieves Guild. I can't really say. I would download SSEEdit and learn to find issues with conflicting mods.
But all of these 3 followers are missing feet textures, see the pictures below. But when I checked randomly other males in my game, their feet look fine. Even your other follower Arik has his feet fine. So I can't figure out why these 3 don't
Edit: Checked Ivar. Yep, using Tempered Skins does that for me for Ivar only. But not Androgenous followers (I have both currently with me.). Ivar works fine with SAM. I will take a look at the mod and see what I did differently between the two.
Edit: I have body parts in there that aren't necessary. I can remove them and it works, but I have to remove the ESL flag. I haven't been able to re-add the flagging. That means I will have to probably rebuild the entire three followers from scratch and start over. I removed the body parts and Ivar worked on my test, but I wasn't able to get that flag going again. I have other things going on, but I will get to it at some point this week.
I use Tempered Skins for SoS light. I had Ivar with me and noticed it in his case first. Then I went to check others if they have it too. I don't use your Androgenous followers, so I don't know about them. I have only Arik the Lighthearted from your other followers and he is fine
But maybe it could be fixed on my end too? Like just copy meshes and textures to their folders? (If I can find their folders first
And I wanted to mention that I absolutely love the voice you picked for Ivar. Really great
As for Ivar's voice, I liked it too. But it's not a marriageable voice, which is why it's not used often. I figured we didn't have to marry all of our followers, so I gave him a more unique voice lol.
As my PC usually doesn't marry (because I don't really like the idea of my PCs husband being basically housewife
So I will hope your friend can figure it out, once they have time to look into it
I actually met a few hiccups updating in existing save
So really, thank you so much for these followers and for your support
So again, really, thank you for quick fix. And thanks to your friend too
And Ivar in my game is running exactly in the same outfit you have in the last picture pages. With the open stomach. Just if you were interested