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Modifies the "Missing In Action" quest so that any character can save Thorold with minimal or no bloodshed. Requires some investigative work
Same mod as before I deleted my account ..... here so I can respond to feedback
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Save Thorold Greymane right under the Thalmor's noses without spilling any blood including yours .....
It is also possible now to save the all prisoners of Northwatch cellblock and actually have them survive. Normally it is necessary to kill every single Thalmor in the entire prison to do this. They will also exit the secret way.
Made the alternate entrance to Northwatch easy to find if you read the book, very hard if you don't.
Installation:
Load up using MO2 or equivalent
Load after: The Choice is Yours or use SSEedit to remove the Missing in Action Quest from that modif you use "The Choice is Yours" mod then Northwatch.esp MUST go after "The Choice is Yours" by Kryptopyr or you will miss clues......
No scripts, save to install/uninstall
Why Make this Mod?
Ever hate it that Bethsoft bent over backwards to make Northwatch Keep a miserable experience, with all those Thalmor and master locks?
You leave the Bannered Mare and see two Battleborn bullies harassing an old woman who lost her son. You fight the urge to chop them up into little pieces and wish Bethsoft gave you something interesting to say about this = Nope.
You decide to help. You haul your butt over to Solitude to find a peaceful solution = Nope. You try to find a way to sneak in and after an hour of searching = Nope. You try to sneak in = A big Master Lock Nope. You try to fight your way in = Instadeath Nope at lower levels and frozen by Frostfall.
You get tired of Bethesda running you around, you suspect the Thalmor are always leveled above you (they are not) = Big Nope to completing the quest
What Does this Mod Do?
The way Bethsoft designed this quest was realistic but very unsatisfying. The Thalmor aren't stupid
This quest gives a believable way to bypass the Thalmor so you can rescue Thorold at an early level with minimal carnage (no carnage if you have SneakTools and are lucky with NPC AI and placements).
What Does this Mod NOT Do?
It adds no scripts and doesn't change the Missing in Action quest except to modify one line of player dialog. You can rescue Thorold with and without help but without flows better.
It doesn't make things too easy as there are no extra quest markers unless you read the book.
Does it Need a New Game?
Doesn't seem to but install before bringing the evidence to Thorold's brother.
Why Bother Making this Mod?
For such a simple mod it took quite a bit of time to make, most of which was riding the bucking bronco called the CK
This quest really irked me because it is presented just at the time when the player may have avoided killing any sentient "living" beings. Then comes the bullying of Fralia by the Battleborns and this invests the player to help her. The game further invests you in the quest by offering peaceful solutions that don't work, and sucking your time looking for a non-violent way in. Nothing works and now Bethesda has you on the hook and invested to start the carnage to save a woman's son or walk away.
This mod actually provides another way instead of pretending to. With the unofficial patch you can get an official pardon for Thorold but only if you join the Legion.
It is also possible now to save the all prisoners of Northwatch cellblock and actually have them survive. Normally it is necessary to kill every single Thalmor in the entire prison to do this. They will also exit the secret way.
Made the alternate entrance to Northwatch easy to find if you read the book, very hard if you don't.
Installation:
Load up using MO2 or equivalent
Load after: The Choice is Yours or use SSEedit to remove the Missing in Action Quest from that modif you use "The Choice is Yours" mod then Northwatch.esp MUST go after "The Choice is Yours" by Kryptopyr or you will miss clues......
No scripts, save to install/uninstall
Why Make this Mod?
Ever hate it that Bethsoft bent over backwards to make Northwatch Keep a miserable experience, with all those Thalmor and master locks?
You leave the Bannered Mare and see two Battleborn bullies harassing an old woman who lost her son. You fight the urge to chop them up into little pieces and wish Bethsoft gave you something interesting to say about this = Nope.
You decide to help. You haul your butt over to Solitude to find a peaceful solution = Nope. You try to find a way to sneak in and after an hour of searching = Nope. You try to sneak in = A big Master Lock Nope. You try to fight your way in = Instadeath Nope at lower levels and frozen by Frostfall.
You get tired of Bethesda running you around, you suspect the Thalmor are always leveled above you (they are not) = Big Nope to completing the quest
What Does this Mod Do?
The way Bethsoft designed this quest was realistic but very unsatisfying. The Thalmor aren't stupid
This quest gives a believable way to bypass the Thalmor so you can rescue Thorold at an early level with minimal carnage (no carnage if you have SneakTools and are lucky with NPC AI and placements).
What Does this Mod NOT Do?
It adds no scripts and doesn't change the Missing in Action quest except to modify one line of player dialog. You can rescue Thorold with and without help but without flows better.
It doesn't make things too easy as there are no extra quest markers unless you read the book.
Does it Need a New Game?
Doesn't seem to but install before bringing the evidence to Thorold's brother.
Why Bother Making this Mod?
For such a simple mod it took quite a bit of time to make, most of which was riding the bucking bronco called the CK
This quest really irked me because it is presented just at the time when the player may have avoided killing any sentient "living" beings. Then comes the bullying of Fralia by the Battleborns and this invests the player to help her. The game further invests you in the quest by offering peaceful solutions that don't work, and sucking your time looking for a non-violent way in. Nothing works and now Bethesda has you on the hook and invested to start the carnage to save a woman's son or walk away.
This mod actually provides another way instead of pretending to. With the unofficial patch you can get an official pardon for Thorold but only if you join the Legion.