I am playing Skyrim VR and for some unknown reason, when I install Letia, my followers start acting strange. Only one of my three followers will actually follow me now when before all three followed me around. When I go to invite Letia, she says she accepts my invitation but does not follow me. The invitation selection is still there when I click on her again. I am using EFT.
When I uninstall Letia, my game returns to normal with all three followers present. Does this package restrict the number of active followers to only one?
Hi Wrapien, I have never tested her in VR, however she was built using the vanilla follower framework. As such, I am not sure if any of her assets or build has incompatibilities with Skyrim VR. If anyone else has any familiarity with this I would gladly hear your input as well!
As soon as I installed Letia she broke my followers. I have 4 active followers and when I loaded the game for the first time after installing her 3 out of 4 followers leave and go back to their "starting" area. No matter what save you load, whether it was before installing Letia or after, only one random follower will stay with you, while the others leave.
Even if you find them you can't do anything. Instead of having the prompt "Follow me" they have "Wait here", and if you click wait here, then your only active follower will actually wait.
Things to note : - I didn't even see/talk/do anything with Letia. - I didn't even go near Winterhold. - Loaded my latest save where I was in Riften, so just by installing Letia, she breaks the game. - I have AFT. Edit: I downloaded the Bijin skin version, if it matters. Edit #2: Uninstalling her and loading a save before her installation fixes this problem.
Hi, I am continuing to look into this to see what in her build could possibly trigger this (she was built using the vanilla follower framework with some slight tweaks to her own combat system). I have come across this problem being mentioned a few times in assorted threads with different followers (some vanilla) and using AFT. If I am able to pinpoint what in her may be triggering this, I will update it. If anyone who potentially has more experience with this issue has some insight, that would be much appreciated as well (I personally don't use AFT).
Try forcing Letia to load above AFT, i had the same problem with Letia and Amalia (another of Lorien's characters) but this fixed the problem with both for me.
Any chance for a Default format version? What I mean by Default format is Letia utilizing whatever body meshes/textures one has installed into their game. Such a version would make Letia 100% compatible with all body mods across the Nexus & beyond. This would not affect Letia's use of the High Poly Head mesh since any/all head/face/hair meshes/textures would still need to be included with the archive... Thank you.
Hi, I am hoping to make the prior version of her a proper default one, altho based on my current schedule that is looking like it probably won't be until next week
erm...default usually means using meshes and textures (apart maybe from the pre sculpted HP head and co) that the character does use. so why is there all the (Body)meshes and textures still in this download, wasting that much space?
Hi DragonAvatar, I missed the nif texture paths in that version of letia so she was already using the body textures that you use in your own game. I am hoping to clean it up and make it a proper "default" version but I left if that way for now in case anyone was really keen on doing it for themselves before I have a chance to upload the default :)
I don't know why but she is using the default skin. So using bijin skin as default skin is fixing the neckseam. Overwriting her head textures with the default textures even fixes the problem.
Hi Ruedy2000, her default standalone skin is Bijin (which works fine with High Poly Heads). If you are using a mod that overwrites npc/follower skin textures (even standalone followers), there is the potential for a neck seam depending on if it is compatible with high poly heads or not.
Sorry i'm not a native speaker so it is difficult for me to describe the problem. I would say she isn't complete standalone because she is using the body texture of the imperial race. I could even delete all of her body textures and there is no change. If she would be complete standalone i should have missing body textures after that. I'm using mature skin 2 for the player character and hig poly head there is no neakseam on the pc.When i use bijin skin for the player character the neckseam from letia is also gone. Replacing only the head texture of letia with the head skin of mature texture works also but that made her look very old.
This is happening because, in the body .nif files (found in Meshes\actors\character\Letia\Body), the texture file paths are to the default body textures, not Letia's.
In other words, every .nif needs to be edited to change the file paths from: textures\actors\character\female\<file name here> To: textures\actors\character\letia\body\<file name here>
Ruedy2000 wrote: I don't know why but she is using the default skin. So using bijin skin as default skin is fixing the neckseam. Overwriting her head textures with the default textures even fixes the problem.
Lorien97 wrote: Hi Ruedy2000, her default standalone skin is Bijin (which works fine with High Poly Heads). If you are using a mod that overwrites npc/follower skin textures (even standalone followers), there is the potential for a neck seam depending on if it is compatible with high poly heads or not.
Ruedy2000 wrote: Sorry i'm not a native speaker so it is difficult for me to describe the problem. I would say she isn't complete standalone because she is using the body texture of the imperial race. I could even delete all of her body textures and there is no change. If she would be complete standalone i should have missing body textures after that. I'm using mature skin 2 for the player character and hig poly head there is no neakseam on the pc.When i use bijin skin for the player character the neckseam from letia is also gone. Replacing only the head texture of letia with the head skin of mature texture works also but that made her look very old.
ShadeC4 wrote: This is happening because, in the body .nif files (found in Meshes\actors\character\Letia\Body), the texture file paths are to the default body textures, not Letia's.
In other words, every .nif needs to be edited to change the file paths from: textures\actors\character\female\<file name here> To: textures\actors\character\letia\body\<file name here>
Hmm that's interessting. But may i ask a question? I'm using a few other followers and they don't have that problem. I'm using a custom cbbe preset and just copied the meshes that i have created with bodyslide into the copied folderstructure in the overwrite folder of ModManager. I use mature skin but two followers use bijin skin. So there must be a different way to change the path to the texture files?
I've seen another method come about recently for texture file paths that I don't understand and have heard nothing about before recent times. I will admit my method is older and more direct. All I can assume is that the new method utilizes scripting, something I've never even dabbled in, since the CreationKit doesn't show anything I'm not used to seeing.
So, as far as I see it, you have 3 options: 1. Use the old, direct method I showed. 2. Try and figure out this new method on your own. 3. Wait for the mod author to release an update to the mod.
Personally, I go with option 1 until an update is released and then I just use the mod author's fixed files. ^^
Thanks man! I think you safed my from some headache in the future. I didn't know about the texture paths or other paths in the nif files. So i used the bodyslide meshes from one follower for the others, too. At this moment everything is fine but if i would have deleted that follower i'm sure i would have got some nice unfixable bugs. Lucky me i have not much followers so i can fix that easily! With high poly head player character there aren't much followers that look that realistic like letia. Not sure wich way to go but i will give her a try. There are few alternatives: the Biijin characters, Cailin, Katlin and Reina. Bijin makes the default followers look nice but sorry Lydia i can't go adventure with you
Hi thank you for catching that slip up in the nifs! Been moving into my first house while finishing her up, so a little scrambled to say the least -_- I will release another version with the corrected nifs either tonight or tomorrow.
@Lorien97 Hey, no worries. ^^ Life's ups and downs are totally understandable. :3 It wasn't even that big of an issue, just a small thing easy to forget about. This is my first encounter with this mod so I was just checking to see what was said about Letia and saw something recent I figured I'd be able to help with, considering I make and edit mods purely for personal use often. ^^ Sounded just like a mistake I've made many times~ x3
as one of the testers for this mod there are 2 things: yes my nexus name is different but my steam name is Silent Protagonist (double check i dare you lol) and 2: i can confirm the no mouth movement.
i have been in contact with the author via discord and as she has confered with me that her contact is in the works of being notified and that there is a possible work around on the forums (i will not post a link as i dont know it is ok with the author so until i ask (probably wont but you guys can ask go right ahead im not stopping you lol) of a possiblle workaround or a fix for those savvy with the creation kit and nif scope/nif optimizer (both programs are beyond me as i am not a mod maker im a tester)
so if you think you can fix it feel free and let us know and tell us how you did it as for now though just run with it nothing else is wrong to my knowlege (yes i know my spelling is bad) but there is a possible update in the works so please be patient thank you
EDIT: i just tested a new copy and mouth movement is now fixed. the new copy is uploading as i type this sentence out please be patient thank you
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When I uninstall Letia, my game returns to normal with all three followers present. Does this package restrict the number of active followers to only one?
I have never tested her in VR, however she was built using the vanilla follower framework. As such, I am not sure if any of her assets or build has incompatibilities with Skyrim VR. If anyone else has any familiarity with this I would gladly hear your input as well!
As soon as I installed Letia she broke my followers. I have 4 active followers and when I loaded the game for the first time after installing her 3 out of 4 followers leave and go back to their "starting" area. No matter what save you load, whether it was before installing Letia or after, only one random follower will stay with you, while the others leave.
Even if you find them you can't do anything. Instead of having the prompt "Follow me" they have "Wait here", and if you click wait here, then your only active follower will actually wait.
Things to note :
- I didn't even see/talk/do anything with Letia.
- I didn't even go near Winterhold.
- Loaded my latest save where I was in Riften, so just by installing Letia, she breaks the game.
- I have AFT.
Edit: I downloaded the Bijin skin version, if it matters.
Edit #2: Uninstalling her and loading a save before her installation fixes this problem.
so why is there all the (Body)meshes and textures still in this download, wasting that much space?
In other words, every .nif needs to be edited to change the file paths from: textures\actors\character\female\<file name here>
To: textures\actors\character\letia\body\<file name here>
Specific examples-
Current file paths: https://i.imgur.com/JI3qy2p.png
Fixed file paths: https://i.imgur.com/mwP1jc2.png
So, as far as I see it, you have 3 options:
1. Use the old, direct method I showed.
2. Try and figure out this new method on your own.
3. Wait for the mod author to release an update to the mod.
Personally, I go with option 1 until an update is released and then I just use the mod author's fixed files. ^^
I will release another version with the corrected nifs either tonight or tomorrow.
@Lorien97 Hey, no worries. ^^ Life's ups and downs are totally understandable. :3 It wasn't even that big of an issue, just a small thing easy to forget about. This is my first encounter with this mod so I was just checking to see what was said about Letia and saw something recent I figured I'd be able to help with, considering I make and edit mods purely for personal use often. ^^ Sounded just like a mistake I've made many times~ x3
May your travels lead you to warm sands~
No lip movement while speaking....
i have been in contact with the author via discord and as she has confered with me that her contact is in the works of being notified and that there is a possible work around on the forums (i will not post a link as i dont know it is ok with the author so until i ask (probably wont but you guys can ask go right ahead im not stopping you lol) of a possiblle workaround or a fix for those savvy with the creation kit and nif scope/nif optimizer (both programs are beyond me as i am not a mod maker im a tester)
so if you think you can fix it feel free and let us know and tell us how you did it as for now though just run with it nothing else is wrong to my knowlege (yes i know my spelling is bad) but there is a possible update in the works so please be patient thank you
EDIT: i just tested a new copy and mouth movement is now fixed. the new copy is uploading as i type this sentence out please be patient thank you