Let's address the issue that no matter how many times people ask (in this mod AND the other) the creator never answers the simple question, WHERE IS SHE?
Sorry to bring bad news, but I think this mod (with the immersive children compatibility patch) made my game Ctd on the road near Falkreath (no idea why).
I think that's my problem too. I uninstalled the mod and now I'm going to try the area around Falkreath again. I'll report back. Update Yes, it was this mod that was causing my game to crash in the Falkreath area. Every time I would use this road near Falkreath the game would crash. I went back to it and it didn't crash this time. I hope that this mod is fixed (But no pressure!) because it looks great and Skyrim is lacking brown children lol.
Hi All, I know this is an issue, I have tried to locate and fix it, but at this point I would need to completely recreate it. IF someone can identify the cause you have my permission to edit and reupload it. I WILL look at it again once my job settles down. In the meantime I think it is a sporadic CTD so save before you go up the mountain road.
Now I do want to be honest first, I’m no expert on the SE creation kit, I normally only use it to convert mods from incorrect form versions to 44, along with using it to fix bad face gen data (aka the black or dark face bug). With that said I was curious today and decided to load Kaiha - a child follower REBORN into the skyrim se creation kit to take a look at what might be causing this whole crash anytime you try to get close to Kaiha’s location thing and I found something interesting. After going to actors, I went to Kaiha and tried to view her model, at this point the kit starting throwing out lots of warnings and errors which is something I’ve never seen before when trying to view an npc in it, custom made or otherwise (warnings like: could not find model, could not find root bone to init root for BipedAnim, things about Non-skinned facegen part and lots more). After it was done throwing warnings at me the panel which was supposed to display what Kaiha looked like only showed a red diamond with a white exclamation mark, like her whole model was broken or missing. Trying to view Kaiha’s father also throws out a few warnings before displaying his head, which is attached to a large red dimond with a white exclamation mark.
"Now I do want to be honest first, I’m no expert on the SE creation kit, I normally only use it to convert mods from incorrect form versions to 44, along with using it to fix bad face gen data (aka the black or dark face bug). With that said I was curious today and decided to load Kaiha - a child follower REBORN into the skyrim se creation kit to take a look at what might be causing this whole crash anytime you try to get close to Kaiha’s location thing and I found something interesting. After going to actors, I went to Kaiha and tried to view her model, at this point the kit starting throwing out lots of warnings and errors which is something I’ve never seen before when trying to view an npc in it, custom made or otherwise (warnings like: could not find model, could not find root bone to init root for BipedAnim, things about Non-skinned facegen part and lots more). After it was done throwing warnings at me the panel which was supposed to display what Kaiha looked like only showed a red diamond with a white exclamation mark, like her whole model was broken or missing. Trying to view Kaiha’s father also throws out a few warnings before displaying his head, which is attached to a large red dimond with a white exclamation mark. "
This is caused by not fully unpacking the BSA into proper folders before attempting to open or edit it in the CK usually.
Wow. I thought this mod was dead. Deleted her ages ago because of her breaking sitting, but I'm going to try her again. Thank you for the fix :). EDIT: Unfortunately, I get a CTD whenever I try to get near her initial quest marker.
Also did you have that issue when you initially tried her WAYYYY back when? :). I only ask because I did not change anything else about her other than a few conditions in the appropriate idles to fix the sitting issue. I am working, over the next few weeks on a version of Kaiha that will make her not dependent on RDO which will help with conflicts.
One last thing. In order to make a mod which allows a child to wear armors and fight and still be a child I had to make condition and keyword changes in several places. If another mod effects those changes (there aren't actually many total) that may also be creating the CTD. The problem with mods like this is that they make the game, intentiaonally, do something the creators didn't want it to. That means compatibility issues are more significant when they occur. If she was JUST a follower or JUST an adoptable child with child idles it would be more forgiving.
No, she never made the game crash before. She just broke the ability for everyone (including my character) to sit down. That was the only reason I took her out of my load order back then. Yes, I'm using RDO. Does she need a new game?
She might, if she wasn't causing a CTD in the prior installation it is likely due to a conflict of some sort. I can try to check the navmeshes around there but I did not alter them. I will keep an eye out for any other reports of this issue.
I get a CTD when leaving the Riverwood inn. I recently tried to add this to my LO, and I've been chasing a CTD problem here and there ever since. I have a pretty tight LO, so that could also be the issue.
There are reports of a CTD issue for some people near the quest start. I have tried everything to repair the issue but have been unable to...unfortunately short of taking it apart and starting from scratch I am not sure I can fix it :( The only thing I can suggest is saving prior to entering the area area, as it appears to intermittent.
Hi, I have looked into this issue and it appears that the .dds texture files in the mod are somewhat broken. I don't really mod myself, just an IT guy who checked this problem for a friend and happened to install some mods for his dad last week. Maybe the author or somebody with knowledge about modding/textures could look into this properly.
Here's a quick rundown of my analysis: 1. The crash log of my friend had multiple references of "textures\actors\character\Kaiha\eyes\1.dds" on the stack 2. After extracting the .dds texture files from the mod, I tried opening them with two different DDS Viewer Programs. Some images consisted only of pixel noise, others would outright crash either of the programs I was using. This was not only the case with eye textures, but with ALL textures included in the mod 3. To verify, I downloaded some other character follower mod in BSA form, extracted some eye textures and could look at them just fine.
So replacing the textures or "fixing" them could possibly be a solution for this CTD. Hope this helps :)
This is hard to say. Sometimes files are corrupted when extracted since they were packed in the xbox dds format vs a pc dds compression. I am not a tech wizard, but since the crashes are locational vs on load or start up I suspect it is related to navmeshing or some other area based corruption : (
It is quite possible you are trying to open BC7 dds files. This is still a new and fairly non-supported format by many dds programs. Even Gimp cannot open these yet. They look like "pixel noise" to any program that opens the file and doesn't support the format. I suppose I could look into this issue and get back with you. I only know of one program that can open BC7 files: Paint.net and the most recent version isn't free anymore :(. I think I have an older installer if you PM me.
EDIT: Ok... not a BC7 issue, at least with the eye texture you mentioned. So that is definitely a bad file.
This is definitely a corrupt texture issue. None of the ones I have tried can be opened... not even in Paint.net. So the author should fix the textures and we should be good! (Not sure if you have the original files... but hopefully). For the time being I am uninstalling until this is fixed as I am getting crashes too. Hopefully soon :) The crash I am experiencing is at the forge and involves "MDCuirassGND". So this is directly related to the texture issue. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the CTD's are related to corrupt textures.
I see the latest comment was from April of last year. Was there ever any fix to the CTD issue at Riverwood and Falkreath? Personally, I never had any issue in Riverwood but I do get the CTD when nearing the quest start outside of Falkreath. I couldn't find her Base ID so I tried placing a copy of her near me with the "Player.placeatme" command but even that caused a CTD. I'm really interested in this mod but as of right now, it appears unusable. Anyone found a fix?
This mod keeps causing Skyrim Special Edition/ Anniversary Edition to crash to desktop when ever I'm near Falkreath. Is there a way to fix this? (I really want to try this mod)
I appreciate that everyone is looking at this. Unfortunately, I suspect this has something to do with a navmesh or some data corruption. I made this a LONG time ago and in order to remake it..properly..I would need to start from scratch since the CTD cause is not something I can track down.
I will leave the mod up until, if, I have some time. I would like to revisit this, it is one of my favorite creations. I just don't know when that will be.
Have have replaced a handful of textures from other resources and has fixed the CTD. can I have permission to reupload? Kaiha has gone through quite the make over. I still got bugs and neckline issues, but all the basics works. NFF and Black bug fix spell solves any one of those issues. Like I said, I simple replace your textures. Also rezipped it using Your files as LOOSE files. The BSA doesn't seem to go well, plus considering this is less than 30mb LOOSE files are fine.
Plus I really like my Overhaul, Started of completely random and ended up being IMP better than the original.
Thank You for created this... I can finally have a child follower I always wanted. I would like to share MINE/OUR/YOUR work to the other people that stumble on to this. This is really the only standalone child follower mod I have found. The rest just coward with mod conflicts and what not.
I will probably Unload before you get back to me. If so you will see I would've given you Full credit. Hope all is good. GREAT MOD. I love the silent voice approach, keeps this smooth with other mods and frameworks.
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Sorry to bring bad news, but I think this mod (with the immersive children compatibility patch) made my game Ctd on the road near Falkreath (no idea why).
Too bad, I liked the idea of a child follower.
Update
Yes, it was this mod that was causing my game to crash in the Falkreath area. Every time I would use this road near Falkreath the game would crash. I went back to it and it didn't crash this time.
I hope that this mod is fixed (But no pressure!) because it looks great and Skyrim is lacking brown children lol.
After going to actors, I went to Kaiha and tried to view her model, at this point the kit starting throwing out lots of warnings and errors which is something I’ve never seen before when trying to view an npc in it, custom made or otherwise (warnings like: could not find model, could not find root bone to init root for BipedAnim, things about Non-skinned facegen part and lots more). After it was done throwing warnings at me the panel which was supposed to display what Kaiha looked like only showed a red diamond with a white exclamation mark, like her whole model was broken or missing. Trying to view Kaiha’s father also throws out a few warnings before displaying his head, which is attached to a large red dimond with a white exclamation mark.
44, along with using it to fix bad face gen data (aka the black or dark face bug). With that said I was curious today and decided to load Kaiha -
a child follower REBORN into the skyrim se creation kit to take a look at what might be causing this whole crash anytime you try to get close
to Kaiha’s location thing and I found something interesting. After going to actors, I went to Kaiha and tried to view her model, at this
point the kit starting throwing out lots of warnings and errors which is something I’ve never seen before when trying to view an npc in it,
custom made or otherwise (warnings like: could not find model, could not find root bone to init root for BipedAnim, things about Non-skinned
facegen part and lots more). After it was done throwing warnings at me the panel which was supposed to display what Kaiha looked like only
showed a red diamond with a white exclamation mark, like her whole model was broken or missing. Trying to view Kaiha’s father also throws out a
few warnings before displaying his head, which is attached to a large red dimond with a white exclamation mark. "
This is caused by not fully unpacking the BSA into proper folders before attempting to open or edit it in the CK usually.
EDIT: Unfortunately, I get a CTD whenever I try to get near her initial quest marker.
Here's a quick rundown of my analysis:
1. The crash log of my friend had multiple references of "textures\actors\character\Kaiha\eyes\1.dds" on the stack
2. After extracting the .dds texture files from the mod, I tried opening them with two different DDS Viewer Programs. Some images consisted only of pixel noise, others would outright crash either of the programs I was using. This was not only the case with eye textures, but with ALL textures included in the mod
3. To verify, I downloaded some other character follower mod in BSA form, extracted some eye textures and could look at them just fine.
So replacing the textures or "fixing" them could possibly be a solution for this CTD. Hope this helps :)
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EDIT: Ok... not a BC7 issue, at least with the eye texture you mentioned. So that is definitely a bad file.
I appreciate that everyone is looking at this. Unfortunately, I suspect this has something to do with a navmesh or some data corruption. I made this a LONG time ago and in order to remake it..properly..I would need to start from scratch since the CTD cause is not something I can track down.
I will leave the mod up until, if, I have some time. I would like to revisit this, it is one of my favorite creations. I just don't know when that will be.
best,
-Eido
Plus I really like my Overhaul, Started of completely random and ended up being IMP better than the original.
Thank You for created this... I can finally have a child follower I always wanted. I would like to share MINE/OUR/YOUR work to the other people that stumble on to this. This is really the only standalone child follower mod I have found. The rest just coward with mod conflicts and what not.
I will probably Unload before you get back to me. If so you will see I would've given you Full credit. Hope all is good. GREAT MOD. I love the silent voice approach, keeps this smooth with other mods and frameworks.
I will be looking at Kaiha again this week. I may take this down and post a version with the CTD issue resolved , if I can identify it.
Standby