not sure if this is related to this mod or not but i cannot for the life of me figure out what the problem is. ive done the mammoth tusk quest and gotten the amulet of mara but the option to ask if shes interested is not available. do i need to do the sleeping sap quest to marry her because of this mod? or is it some other bug? i've even restarted my save completely and its still happening... Also not sure if this is related, but whenever I kill belethor so she can take over the store, whenever I enter she tells me im "not supposed to be in here" regardless of hours. Is this all an issue with the mod I'm having or some other bug? and if it is can someone PLEASE help me, I've restarted a save like 3 times in one day and i'm gassed lol
Have you read the note on the corpse inside the small cave at the sleeping giant tree (right name?) yet? That triggered the quest for me when I had issues.
This is hands down the best character enhancement of your mods. I knew this person in college. Male not female but all the same attitudes towards his drug dealing and friends. Clients well they were money, nothing but, buy his stuff and enjoy, fall off the stairs and well free country I didn't make you buy it, didn't make you take it. Friends were different, dude would throw down even when he knew he was going get an ass kicking. Problem was always for all involved, clients that thought they were friends and were not. That is where things were sticky. You have one conversation in here that stuck because I had it. You're my friend but don't tell me how to live my life, screw these people they don't care about me, why should I care about them. I saw people for what they were when my mother was dying. (Ysolda), for my friend it was looking at all his parent's friends coming to his family's farm auction looking for a good deal on their equipment. That contempt is what this mod does well.
I am not crazy about his FDE edition. Reasons: Ysolda doesn't level up until I use console commands. Everytime Ysolda talks, it has something to do with money which is repetitive and annoying. Ysolda frequently says story-unique dialoge while I am still in the middle of talking to an NPC, causing me to miss what she said. It seems her behavior as an NPC is conflicting with her behavior as a follower (i.e. she wanders around and talks to people in Whiterun which causes her to not follow me when transitioning between areas.
Man, I am so ambivalent about this take on Ysolda.
On one hand, I love that the darling, intrepid, but otherwise bland Ysolda now possesses realistic human flaws (or rather, her flaws are more apparent and defined, rather than a barely acknowledged dirty secret). Way back at launch, Ysolda was my natural pick for marriage; she was that girl next door who had simple needs and clear values, but was ultimately paper thin as a character, a problem this mod resolves.
On the other hand...
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... the fact that she's an unabashed dealer of addictive drugs really stabs my heart personally. As someone who has experienced severe, long-term, life-altering drug addiction, and has also witnessed how destructive drug addiction could be to people less fortunate than me, her sheer lack of remorse and willful ignorance makes her utterly repugnant to me. Like, if she had doubts or any semblance of regret, I would have been able to headcanon some redemption for her. But instead, she refuses to back down when pressed on the subject; she has deeply-ingrained reasons for her double-life as a secret sleeping-sap slanger, and that's not something that's going to change overnight, if at all.
This is not a knock on the mod; quite the opposite. The fact that her new dialogue drew these kinds of emotions from me is a testament to the writing. If she suddenly decided to change her ways after a few banal conversations, that would have weakened her character immensely. A strong character who I disagree with is much better than a weak character who bends to my whims.
Agree entirely, with what you said though not from your point of view. Rather having a good friend, meaning have your back sort, no matter the odds in the parking lot, who had his reasons to suspend morality except when it came to a certain few. Funny thing is I was not a user I was a farm kid like him and met when he tried to hustle me at pool, and I was trying to hustle him. I did not win.
Great addition to a great series! One small note, which may be beyond the scope of this mod, but still worth mentioning - post-recruitment, the player remains unable to sleep in Ysolda's bed or wait in her house during evening hours. Her "ask you to leave" dialogue doesn't trigger, but the game functionally has the player in a state of being asked to leave, with all the related limitations.
This is somewhat jarring for those of us who completed her Amorous Adventures quest alongside recruitment.
Does Ysolda have any special dialogue when it comes to the A Night To Remember quest? Particularly if she's married to you? I always thought it was funny she's supportive of you getting married even if you're married to her in vanilla. Maybe that can be a fun character quirk of hers.
um may i ask how to uninstall this mod? i uninstalled it from vortex and delete the file inside data folder but it seems the mod is still attached to my game i was want to marry her but i think its bugged because the ceremony wont start and i stuck on "attend your wedding ceremony", and it still wont start the ceremony even after i deleted the file, oh and i already complete the sleeping tree sap quest and gave her mammoth tusk
> did tusk mission > started "a night to remember" quest > asked ysolda to marry me > Installed this mod > Started wedding ceremony ! Ysolda wasn't at my house > Fixed by completing "antr" quest ! Ysolda doesn't have her modded dialogs > Did the "Tree Sap" quest, but still. > Fixed by closing the game and sorting plugins with LOOT
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Ysolda doesn't level up until I use console commands.
Everytime Ysolda talks, it has something to do with money which is repetitive and annoying.
Ysolda frequently says story-unique dialoge while I am still in the middle of talking to an NPC, causing me to miss what she said.
It seems her behavior as an NPC is conflicting with her behavior as a follower (i.e. she wanders around and talks to people in Whiterun which causes her to not follow me when transitioning between areas.
On one hand, I love that the darling, intrepid, but otherwise bland Ysolda now possesses realistic human flaws (or rather, her flaws are more apparent and defined, rather than a barely acknowledged dirty secret). Way back at launch, Ysolda was my natural pick for marriage; she was that girl next door who had simple needs and clear values, but was ultimately paper thin as a character, a problem this mod resolves.
On the other hand...
... the fact that she's an unabashed dealer of addictive drugs really stabs my heart personally. As someone who has experienced severe, long-term, life-altering drug addiction, and has also witnessed how destructive drug addiction could be to people less fortunate than me, her sheer lack of remorse and willful ignorance makes her utterly repugnant to me. Like, if she had doubts or any semblance of regret, I would have been able to headcanon some redemption for her. But instead, she refuses to back down when pressed on the subject; she has deeply-ingrained reasons for her double-life as a secret sleeping-sap slanger, and that's not something that's going to change overnight, if at all.
This is not a knock on the mod; quite the opposite. The fact that her new dialogue drew these kinds of emotions from me is a testament to the writing. If she suddenly decided to change her ways after a few banal conversations, that would have weakened her character immensely. A strong character who I disagree with is much better than a weak character who bends to my whims.
TL;DR great work!
This is somewhat jarring for those of us who completed her Amorous Adventures quest alongside recruitment.
Fixable?
i uninstalled it from vortex and delete the file inside data folder but it seems the mod is still attached to my game
i was want to marry her but i think its bugged because the ceremony wont start and i stuck on "attend your wedding ceremony", and it still wont start the ceremony even after i deleted the file, oh and i already complete the sleeping tree sap quest and gave her mammoth tusk
> did tusk mission
> started "a night to remember" quest
> asked ysolda to marry me
> Installed this mod
> Started wedding ceremony
! Ysolda wasn't at my house
> Fixed by completing "antr" quest
! Ysolda doesn't have her modded dialogs
> Did the "Tree Sap" quest, but still.
> Fixed by closing the game and sorting plugins with LOOT