Growl Patch Available Raikano and boysaunders76 have informed me that, with Growl installed, the transformation to Werewolf does not work if you're a Vampire. I've created a patch and uploaded it to the Nexus under Optional Files. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Version 1.1 Available Jhauler informed me of a Form ID range error in the main plugin, so I've re-compacted the plugin and uploaded the new version. Really sorry for any inconvenience.
Someone posted about this in the Bugs section some time ago, but Sacrosanct seems to not play nice with this mod. Breton Male, was a Vampire Lord first prior to the whole bit in the Underforge, an error occurred and instead of going werewolf it turned me into a Nord vamp. After waking up at Gallows Rock following that sequence, I was a Breton again, but upon checking this mod's MCM I'd lost my Vampire Lord status and was just a normal vamp.
Mods I used for vampire and werewolf respectively were Sacrosanct and Moonlight Tales.
When I use the beast form, I return as normal and not a vampire. I can still transform into a vampire lord without being a vampire and become a vampire again later.
Same happened to me, during Silver Hand quest when Skjor and Aela infect you in the Underforge. Was able to use the mod to cure lycanthropy and Better Vamps troubleshooting to get my vampire powers back (important because I was built around Hemalgesic Spike). Despite not being a werewolf anymore, the Companions don't seem to mind and the questline continues. So win? Edit: Just checked load order and Loot did sort CotD (OPHybrid.esp) before Better Vampires and Moonlight Tales.
Could you please clarify? When you say you use the beast form, do you mean Werewolf or Vampire Lord beast form? Sadly, both are beast forms, I just don't know which one you're talking about. And does it just happen with the one, or with both beast forms? Meaning, you transform into a Werewolf or a Vampire Lord, and afterward you're no longer flagged as a vampire? Again, please clarify which form you mean. Or is it both? Thanks!
Werewolf beast form only. As hybrid if i turn werewolf and return i am no longer vampire, i have to manually set again in the mcm. But maybe it could be my saved game, it's old and I didn't tested it on a new playthrough.
Okay, one more question: which vampire and/or werewolf mods do you use? Are you using Better Vampires or Sacrosanct, for instance? Moonlight Tales on the werewolf side?
The thing is, depending on what the mod authors did on their end with the original VampireChange and WerewolfChange scripts, it's possible I didn't take something into consideration. So, if you could specify which mods you use, that might help and I can take a closer look. Of course, if you discover that it was an old save, please let me know so I don't spend too much time trying to solve an issue that doesn't exist.
I tested it on a new save and everything worked fine. So it's probably my save but I acquired the powers through mcm, I don't know if there will be any problems if acquired naturally during the missions, probably no. I will start a new playthrough to test everything but probably was my end. Sorry.
Got this as well with the SE Moonlight Tales and Better Vampires. Works fine on a new game but not a current game, load order was set up as per instructions.
Works almost perfectly. With Better Vampires and Growl, however, Beast Form remains a Greater Power, like in vanilla, unlike how Growl should work, so it can only be used once a day. (Can't even select the power, so can't even try to cast it.) This is with all compatibility patches, mind you.
Nevermind, I figured it out, it was a load order issue.
Make sure that Growl and whatever vampire mod you got is loaded AFTER this.
Also, oddly enough, this DOES in fact work with simple Legendary Edition Oldrim.
Just want to point out that leveling up your rank in sacrilege might cause the vampire lord power to not work anymore. also might be important but I am using it with more werewolf perks in case that's relevant.
No, the Growl and Sacrosanct Hybrid patch would probably get in the way. It does what my mod does, but is trimmed to Growl and Sacrosanct, so probably not quite as flexible.
Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. If you check with SSEEdit, OPHybrid doesn't have a conflict with Sacrosanct and would only overwrite Sacrosanct if you give OPHybrid a higher priority in your load order instead of lower, as it should be. Can you please explain in clearer terms what you mean? Thanks!
Look, I'd love to help you, but before I can do that, you need to carefully read the instructions on the Description page. In the Description, I clearly state that all Vampire and Werewolf overhauls need to be loaded AFTEROPHybrid.esp. In the SSEEdit screenshots you made available this is clearly not the case for Growl. Load Growl AFTER OPHybrid, and your transformation issues should resolve themselves. It doesn't matter whether you use LOOT or any other sorting tool. If the tool doesn't sort the ESPs accordingly, you're going to have to do it manually. Just as a tip, in LOOT, you can edit the metadata so it will always sort Growl after OPHybrid.
The patch you're suggesting for Sacrosanct isn't necessary, since the patch for Growl is only done so the player doesn't suddenly transform into a Werewolf while in Vampire Lord form, for instance during a Lunar Transformation.
Hey OregonPete, I did what you said and insured OPHybrid.esp loads BEFORE Growl and I was able to be both Vampire and Werewolf. Issue is, when I cured Vampirism, backed out of menu and insured I was no longer flagged, I used your MCM to give me Vampire Lord. I was able to transform into Vampire Lord then back to human, still flagged as both Werewolf and Vampire Lord. However, Beast form no longer works. It's in my powers but nothing happens when I press the button.
Edit: I forgot to specify, I am also using Sacrosanct and Growl. Edit 2: I forgot to use the Growl patch Edit 3: I installed Growl patch last in load order, both are working fluid, resolved. For the record this is all installed on the Nolvus modpack including Growl and Sacrosanct. Cheers.
I have an idea for your mod. When the blood of a vampire lord and a werewolf flows into us, it makes us a hybrid. Thus, you can block the standard transformation into a lord and a werewolf, but instead add the transformation into a hybrid, by pressing Tab, the former branches of the vampire lord and werewolf skills + the hybrid branch will be available. Also, as a transformation model, you can implement something like turning into the form of "Michael" from another world (where his skillet is partially deformed and his skin turns black, a high degree of regeneration and protection is added, jumping to the prator, etc.
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Raikano and boysaunders76 have informed me that, with Growl installed, the transformation to Werewolf does not work if you're a Vampire. I've created a patch and uploaded it to the Nexus under Optional Files. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Jhauler informed me of a Form ID range error in the main plugin, so I've re-compacted the plugin and uploaded the new version. Really sorry for any inconvenience.
Mods I used for vampire and werewolf respectively were Sacrosanct and Moonlight Tales.
Edit: Just checked load order and Loot did sort CotD (OPHybrid.esp) before Better Vampires and Moonlight Tales.
The thing is, depending on what the mod authors did on their end with the original VampireChange and WerewolfChange scripts, it's possible I didn't take something into consideration. So, if you could specify which mods you use, that might help and I can take a closer look. Of course, if you discover that it was an old save, please let me know so I don't spend too much time trying to solve an issue that doesn't exist.
I will start a new playthrough to test everything but probably was my end. Sorry.
Nevermind, I figured it out, it was a load order issue.
Make sure that Growl and whatever vampire mod you got is loaded AFTER this.
Also, oddly enough, this DOES in fact work with simple Legendary Edition Oldrim.
i use auto sort
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The patch you're suggesting for Sacrosanct isn't necessary, since the patch for Growl is only done so the player doesn't suddenly transform into a Werewolf while in Vampire Lord form, for instance during a Lunar Transformation.
Edit: I forgot to specify, I am also using Sacrosanct and Growl.
Edit 2: I forgot to use the Growl patch
Edit 3: I installed Growl patch last in load order, both are working fluid, resolved. For the record this is all installed on the Nolvus modpack including Growl and Sacrosanct. Cheers.