Introduction
If you are an user of Skyrim Spear Mechanic SE, you probably know that it uses a custom skeleton that places the spears on the back of the characters. But if you use another skeleton mod (like almost everyone do nowadays), you'll see that the spears are placed on the hips instead. A bit unimmersive don't you think?
This tutorial will show you how to move the spears to the back of the characters.
What do you need:
- Immersive Equipment Displays and its requirements.
- Skyrim Spear Mechanic SE
How to use IED (for the purpose of this tutorial)
First, we'll need to access the IED interface while in game, the default key is "Backspace"
Then we'll need to change the Placement of the one-handed swords, because spears are considered as such.
Go to "View>Gear nodes".
P.S.: In versions earlier than 1.7.0, this window was called "Gear positioning". In most recent versions, it's called "Gear nodes":
We'll be using the "Actor" tab and the Player character.
In "Placement" find "Sword" and expand. Leave the first field and blank and create a new override.
In conditions, create a new condition for "Type>One-Handed Sword" and select the "Sword back" node.
Do the same for the "Sword Left" if you want. Then click on the condition and toggle "Equipped" and set the "WeapTypeSpear" keyword (or the keyword from the spear mod you want to use):
This will place the spears on the back when equipped.
Now we'll need to switch to "Custom" view.
Go to View>Display Manager>View>Custom Items:
In Custom view, it's possible to create a new preset or use an existing one.
Now, we need to create a new custom display for the spears, by clicking here:
After creating the new display, we'll begin the configuration.
Expand the new display, and toggle "Last equipped", then add the condition "Type>One-Handed Sword".
Click on the condition, toggle "This" and set the "WeapTypeSpear" keyword (or the keyword from the spear mod you want to use):
Now, in "Biped slots", choose the "One hand sword" and untoggle everything under it (you can leave "Prioritize recent slots" toggled to better filter the spear, if you're having issues):
Now, toggle "Equipment mode", "Disable if equipped" and "Must be favorited". Then finally choose the node:
This will disable the display if the spear is equipped, as we want to manage this via gear nodes. It will also only show when favorited.
Now, you'll have the spears showing on the back of your character when equipped and favorited... But wait, there is more.
If you equip a spear, you'll see your favorited one-handed sword being displayed on the right hip (left hand position), that can be adjusted.
Go to "View>Equipment slots" and then expand the "One-Handed Sword Left" node.
Now, create an override for when a spear is equipped, to move the sword to the left hip (right hand position):
Click on "Equipment overrides" to add a new override, then in conditions, select "Type>One-Handed Sword".
Click on the condition and choose "Equipped", "This" and then set the "WeapTypeSpear" keyword:
Now, choose the "One-Handed Sword NMD" node with the positioning below:
We can't use the "One-Handed Sword (WDM)" node because of the override that sends the swords to the back when a spear is equipped. P.S.: Those values above will place the sword almost exactly like the default node.
We also have to ignore spears on this display, because we don't want them showing up here when favorited.
Expand "Item filters", then click on "Deny" and "Add multiple":
Add all the spears from the mod:
Now, add the same filter in the "One-Handed Sword" display.
Everything is set up, now you can play with the spears on a different placement than the "normal" one-handed swords.
One small detail though. If try to favorite two swords while equipping a spear, the left sword will not be displayed. This happens because of the override in "Gear nodes".
Final result:
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The picture was pretty misleading but as someone who has been practicing the reading skill for decades, I guess I have no excuse.
Thank you GiraPomba, you saved me years of trying to figure it out before uninstalling the whole thing.
When equipped and favourited, the spears are on the back as needed. But when unequipped, they are on the hip.
When the shield is equipped, the spear gets treated like a sword. Even the shields flies back to the arm after being stowed on the back, but this might be an issue with IED.
I could be wrong, but it's likely because of the Weapon type ID, as I use the Rapier Patch for 1-handed Spear of Skyrim.
Any help will be appreciated.
Edit: I think I've tracked down the issue. It doesn't lie in IED, but rather in XPSSME - its skeletons for weapons got overwritten. Right now, I struggle to juggle around with the load order, as Modwat.ch seems pretty much dead and I am left to come up with my own ham-fisted methods.
Edit: Nevermind, I re-did the steps and both things worked now. Must've missed a step I didn't notice at first.
for example if I equip a normal sword, then my spear stop showing on back. Is there a way to make it stay on back in that case?
If not, try to disable "Equipped" inside the One-handed sword condition and enable "Prioritize recent slot" below "Biped slots". I think something was changed in latest versions.
The spear shouldn't go to the hip, did you select the "Sword back" node for the custom display?
I'll do some tests later.
Thank you very much, sir
I selected the right node this time. Any idea? I rechecked 3 times the guide now...
Please note that my spear automotically goes to the left hip, even if no 1H weapon is equipped/favourited.
EDIT: I had to uncheck "Equipment mode" in the conditions and now it works!
I put it in the same thread because it was the same issue, but different solution.
I think I fix it myself , I missed a config class Global .
edit: The VIEWMODEL of the spear is blocking the view
If you're seeing the weapon in first person, you're probably using Improved Camera, try to enable "Sync first person skeleton" in the Settings menu of IED.
Also there seems to be no way for me to save any of this either, as the soon as I leave the game and come back everything I've done is lost.
So confused...
Read the guide again, you must be missing a step.
although... when setting up the Item Filtering section, I tried to implement a suggestion from a previous comment on here, to use the WeapTypeSpear keyword to filter spears instead of having to manually add all the weapons from the spear mod.
But I don't know if I did it correctly... feel like I didn't and that's whats causing 1 spear to still be on the hip.
I also still don't know how to save any of this.
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You need to save your game at least once to save the settings, they're stored in the SKSE co-save.
In IED use "File>Default config>Export" to save a default profile with all your settings that automatically loads on new games.
But are we meant to make a whole other custom condition for the left side as well? Cuz I currently still have the issue of only one unequipped and favorited spear being on the back.
It gets trickier to set up a display for the left hand when dual wielding.