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  1. z4x
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    Post compatibility patches for custom races here (they will get moved to optional files eventually).

    Creating the base list using TES5Edit:

    - download TES5Edit
    - get this script and paste it in: \TES5Edit\Edit Scripts\
    - load ESP file of some other mod in TES5Edit
    - right click on mod's name on the list
    - select "apply script" and choose previously downloaded script
    - look for "_Races.txt" file in: \TES5Edit\Edit Scripts\

    The same thing can be done using zEdit Module by mtreis86:
    https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23589
  2. 5xam
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    Here are the values for Vigilant and Summerset Isle,
    Vigilant :
    Note 1 : I personally gave the boss race variants one extra in my own files because it didn't make sense that bosses would give the same amount as normal enemies, but these are the unedited values that you would get with the formula.
    zzzCOWitchWispRace,5
    zzzCOClawlerRace,1
    zzzCORedHagRace,1
    zzzCHDraugrHumanBossRace,5
    zzzCHAlfiqRace,10
    zzzCHOrderKnightBossRace,5
    zzzCHBoneHumanBossRace,5
    zzzCHAuroranBossRace,5
    zzzCHAuroranRace,5
    zzzCHPopeWreckRace,50
    zzzCHBlackHandRace,5
    zzzAoMBaliwogRace,4
    zzzAoMGrummiteRace,6
    zzzAoMMolagBalRace,75
    zzzCHAlessianGiantRace,25
    zzzCHCaveWormRace,13
    zzzCOStalkerRace,1
    zzzCHFlameLordRace,5
    zzzCHArachneIronRaceGiant,25
    zzzCHIronSpiderRaceLarge,10
    zzzCHIronSpiderRaceGiant,25
    zzzCHIronSpiderRace,2
    zzzCHMagicBroomRace,2
    zzzBMWereVampireRaceORC,10
    zzzBMWereVampireRaceELF,10
    zzzBMWereVampireRace,10
    zzzBMFalVampRace,10
    zzzCHBloodSuckerRace,15
    zzzCHOrderPriestRace,18
    zzzCHJyggalagRace,50
    zzzCHArachneRaceSmall,5
    zzzCHArachneRaceLarge,15
    zzzCHArachneRaceGiant,25
    zzzCHFlameStormRace,5
    zzzCHFlameSpiritRace,5
    zzzCHFlameLurkerRace,5
    zzzCHFlameQueenRace,5
    zzzCHBoneStriderRace,50
    zzzCHGiantBloodSuckerRace,15
    zzzCHBloodSuckerFishRace,4
    zzzCHBoneHumanRace,5
    zzzCHOrderKnightRace,5
    zzzCHAlessianSleeperRace,20
    zzzCHBoneStormRace,20
    zzzCHPrismLordRace,20
    zzzCHPrismSpiritRace,10
    zzzCHPrismLurkerRace,8
    zzzCHPrismStormRace,13
    zzzCHMentanaRace,50
    zzzCHScampRace,10
    zzzCHDaedrothRace,10
    zzzCHShellbugRace,2
    zzzCHEbonyPriestRace,16
    zzzCHEbonyGiantRace,30
    zzzCHShoggothMotherRace,5
    zzzCHShoggothRace,13
    zzzCHShoggothFLYRace,13
    zzzCHShoggothLittleRace,5
    zzzCHHMYoungRace,15
    zzzCHShamblesLordRace,20
    zzzCHShamblesRace,20
    zzzCHBoneWheelRace,10
    zzzCHBoneLooperRace,14
    zzzCHVarlaHoundRace,2
    zzzCHBoneHorseRace,15
    zzzCHAlessianGhoulRace,5
    zzzCHAlessianLawmageRace,25
    zzzCOChildRaceKillable,5
    zzzCOBuroRace,5
    zzzAoMEmpusaRace,100
    zzzCOLichChild,50
    zzzCORedWitchRace,50
    zzzCOVabriaBuroRace,20
    zzzCOBuroDancerRace,8
    zzzCOFleshGuardianRace,25
    zzzCOFleshSpiritRace,10
    zzzBMLichVampireRace,10
    zzzBMTrollVampireRace,15

    Summerset :
    Note 2 : I've tweaked the values here a bit, considering that with the formula, the rockbug race would give you 7900 XP , which would be too unbalanced considering that they're peaceful rocks that you can only kill with pickaxes, the sload values are also a tad high, but I've left them like they are here.
    NecroSpiderRace,2
    TreeSpiderRace,60
    RockBug01Race,20
    MimicBookRace,70
    SSIOrbRaceBoss,20
    EncroachedSpiderRace,2
    MudcrabRaceCharles,3
    SkinTableRace,15
    SSIOrbRace,20
    SSTigerRace,15
    PlaguedRatRace,2
    SSISlugRace,13
    SSIMadDeerRace,5
    SSIBroomRace,1
    LodgeChildRace,5
    SISload2Race,200
    SISloadRace,800
    SIBloodySkeletonRace,20
    AscendedLichRace,15
    SISilentBloodySkeletonRace,20
    TestSubjectBloodSuckerRace,8
    SSIMQ01DogRace,1
    DiggsRace,2
    SSIZombieRace,1
    SubjectGoatBeastRace,10
    SubjectHulkingTrollRace,30
    BaliwogRace,25
    MimicChestRace,10
    GrummiteRace,10
    SSIHungerRace,10
    GnarlRace,30
    WolfSwampHound,10

    Note 3 : Summerset Isle will be getting a major update some time in the future, which may add new enemies, making this list obsolete, this list is accurate for the 1.4 version of the mod.
  3. lomenar
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    I have created csv files for Animal Tweaks, OBIS, Buxom Wench Yuriana, Skyrim Underground, and updated the Immersive Creatures patch with the updates mentioned by Fangard. You can find a link to all of them here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/vbc068k9dixqmev/XP%20Patches.zip?dl=0

    Z4x, please feel free to add them to the optional files, you can break it up however you wish.
    1. lomenar
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      Oh and your script doesn't find anything in Diverse Dragons for those who are interested.
    2. z4x
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      Added. Sorry for late reply but I'm not receiving notifications for new posts here.
    3. lomenar
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      I just added a patch for Enhanced Mighty Dragons. New link for the zip that has all the csv files formatted for easy installation - https://www.dropbox.com/s/6u9g975tmi10d5s/Experience%20Mod%20Patches.zip?dl=0
    4. lomenar
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      I updated my patch list to include Ultimate Deadly Encounters - The Sands of Time. Same dropbox link as last one.
  4. Fangard
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    Hello there, i'd like to point out that there are some missing values on "immersive creatures" (maybe things that were added with updates and whatnot).I did this because i killed a "Wooly Rhino" from immersive creatures today and it yielded only one xp point.

    I took the liberty to add the missing values by checking in TESedit and using the formula stated below (baseHP/10)

    The missing values in question are the following:
    _00OgreRace,25
    _00RhinoRace,50
    _00GehenothRace,30
    1. Fangard
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      Additionally, here's a few values that are added by OBIS (Organized Bandits In Skyrim)
      OBIS_mihailminotaurrace2,35
      OBIS_mihailminotaurrace1,35
  5. Aldion
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    Here's the values for the creatures added in Skyrim Underground. EXP values calculated by HP/10 rounded up.

    AKRieklingDraugrLittleRace,5
    AKGiantDwarvenKeeperRace,25
    AKHorkerDraugrRace,15
    AKRieklingDwarvenLittleRaceDV,5
    AKFrostbiteArachnerRace,3
    AKSkeeverShoggothRace,3
    AKNordRaceCunoMaid,5
    AKDraugrRealZombieRaceGirl01,5
    AKIceWraithShoggothRace,10
    AKBloodsuckerfishRace,4
    AKFalmerSnowgoblin02Race,10
    AKFalmerSnowgoblin03Race,10
    AKFalmerSnowgoblinRace,10
    AKFrostbiteSpiderNCRRaceGiantb,25
    AKRieklingDwarvenLittleRace,5
    AKTrollDwarvenRace,15
    AKHumanDwarvenTrooper,5
    AKAnglerfishRace,4
    AKHumanDwarvenCommander,5
    AKFrostbiteScorpionRaceLarge,10
    akDraugrMummyRace,5
    AKFrostbiteScorpionRace,2
    AKChaurusCavewormRace,13
    AKTrollUderfrykteRace,15
    AKDraugrRealZombieRaceJarl01,5
    AKRatSkeeverRace,2
    AKFrostbiteSpiderNCRRaceGiant,25
    AKSabreCatPantherRace,10
    AKDraugrRealZombieRaceMute,5
    AKDraugrRealZombieRace,5
    AKFalmerDwarvenOldWorkerRace,10
    AKSprigganDwarvenRipperRace,13
    AKChickenShellbugRace,1
    akDraugrTrollRace,5
    AKWerewolfMimicChestRace,10
    akDraugrDwarvenworkerRace,5
    AKChaurusDwarvenwormRace,13
    AKGiantHulkingDraugrRace,25
    AKWispMaraRace,5
    AKGiantSkeletonRace,25
    AKDragonPriestAscendedMageRace,20
    AKTrollMushroomRace,15
    AKHagravenGnarlRace,30
    AKAtronachFrostDMRace,25
    AKFalmerGrummiteRace,10
    AKNecroSpiderRaceLarge,10
    AKChickenRockbugRace,1
    AKHorkerLarvaRace,15
    AKMushroomSkeeverRace,2
    AKFalmerSkampRace,10
    AKIceWraithFireGhostRace,10
    AKFalmerSkeletonRace,10
    AKIceWraithEyebotRace,10
    AKDragonPriestFalmerRace,20
    AKWerewolfDaedrothRace,10
    AKHagravenAsctndedsleeperRace,30
    AKIceWraithBonespiritRace,10
    AKDragonPriestBonelordRace,20
    AKIceWraithFleshspiritRace,10
    AKNordRaceCuno,5
    AKChaurusTentacleRace,13
    AKWerewolfHungerRace,10
    AKHorkerBaliwogRace,15
    AKWerewolfShoggothRace,10
    AKWerewolfFleshgrinderRace,10
    AKGiantRace,25
    AKDwarvenSphereBonewheelRace,20
    AKChaurusBonelooperRace,13
    AKDragonPriestDreughRace,100
    AKHorkerBloodsuckerRace,15
    AKArachneRaceGiant,25
    AKHorkerNamiraRace,15
    AKDragonPriestNamiraRace,20
    akDraugrZombieRace,5
    AKDogDraugrRace,1
  6. Animus97
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    The script for compatibility is not available for download (at least not for me).
    1. z4x
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      Re-upped.
    2. Animus97
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      Thanks, Man!
  7. mangomod
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    Here are the race records and their XP amounts for Immersive Creatures. I have separated the normal SIC records and the Dragonborn expansion records.
    XP amounts were calculated with Race Base HP/10, rounded up to the nearest whole number. With the exception of Ore and Stalhrim Guardians, which lacked base HP, so they were given an equivalent amount of XP to Storm Atronachs.

    SKYRIM IMMERSIVE CREATURES

    _00AncientSprigganRace,25
    _00ArmoredSkeletonArgonianRace,8
    _00ArmoredSkeletonBeastRace_Old,8
    _00ArmoredSkeletonKhajiitRace,8
    _00ArmoredSkeletonRace,8
    _00ArmoredSkeletonRace_Old,8
    _00AspectRace,2
    _00AtronachGlassRace,25
    _00BeastSkeletonRace,8
    _00BoneStormRace,20
    _00ChaurusCrawlerRace,13
    _00ChaurusCrawlerRaceGiant,25
    _00ChaurusCrawlerRaceLarge,10
    _00ChaurusGrimWarriorRace,5
    _00ChaurusWarriorRace,5
    _00DaedrothRace,10
    _00DarkSeducerRace,10
    _00DLC1BonemanSkeletonRace,2
    _00DLC1SwampTrollRaceArmored,15
    _00DramanBeastRace,10
    _00DramanBruteRace,15
    _00DramanHunterRace,15
    _00DramanRace,13
    _00DraugrDwarvenRace,20
    _00DraugrOneEyeRace,30
    _00DraugrRaceSH,5
    _00DraugrVarRace,5
    _00DreughRace,30
    _00DwarvenBotRace,10
    _00DwarvenDroidRace01,8
    _00DwarvenDroidRace02,5
    _00DwarvenDroidRace03,13
    _00DwarvenKeeperRace,40
    _00DwarvenPunisherRace,20
    _00DwarvenSpiderBoltRace,25
    _00DwarvenSpiderFireRace,18
    _00DwarvenSweeperRace,20
    _00DwemerRace,5
    _00FalmerRace01,10
    _00FalmerRace02,10
    _00FalmerRace03,10
    _00FalmerRace04,10
    _00FalmerRace05,10
    _00FeralVampRace,25
    _00FrostBruteRace,20
    _00FrostSprigganMatronRace,13
    _00GiantBruteRace,25
    _00GiantFireRace,25
    _00GiantFrostRace,25
    _00GoblinRace,10
    _00GoldenSaintRace,8
    _00IceWraithSummonRace,10
    _00LichRace,5
    _00MechaDragonRace0,50
    _00MechaDragonRace1,100
    _00MechaDragonRace2,300
    _00MechaDragonRace3,600
    _00RieklingRaceBig,5
    _00RieklingRaceSmall,5
    _00RigidSkeletonBeastRace,8
    _00SkeletonLordRace,25
    _00SkeletonPriestRace,100
    _00SkeletonSpiderRace,15
    _00SoulWraithRace,13
    _00VenerableSprigganEarthMotherRace,13
    _00VenerableSprigganMatronRace,13
    _00VenerableSprigganRace,13
    _00WerewolfKingBeastRace,20
    _00WingedTwilightRace,10
    _00WrathBruteRace,30

    SKYRIM IMMERSIVE CREATURES - DRAGONBORN

    _00AshHunterRace,14
    _00ChaurusHopperRace,13
    _00DurzogRace,25
    _00FlyingShoggothRace,10
    _00GreaterShoggothRace,10
    _00LesserShoggothRace,5
    _00MountedGoblinRace,25
    _00OreGuardianRace,10
    _00StalhrimGuardianRace,10
    _00VenerableSprigganBurntRace,33
    _00WerebearBeastBlackRace,50
    _00WerebearBeastSnowRace,50
    _00WereSkeeverBeastRace,50
    1. mangomod
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      It's important to note, however, that it seems some races slipped under TES5Edit's radar. That, or there are some minor inconsistencies with Immersive Creatures records, as the Spriggan Matron near Anise's Cabin still only gives the default 1 XP.
    2. z4x
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      Btw, these values next to RaceID aren't suggested XP values, its racial base Health to give you some idea on how strong they are stats wise. If I remember correctly I set most of XP rewards for vanilla races to be XP=HP/10.

      You can check RaceID of specific enemy in log file. After killing them look for this line: "GetBaseKillReward, race: <RaceID>"
    3. mangomod
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      Ah, I did think the values were too high. Got it. At some point soon I will edit the original post with corrected (and cleaned) entries, base the Ore Guardian's XP off of Storm Atronach and Ash Guardian XP, and see if I can't find the Spriggan Matron's proper value (if that is possible without digging around in the ESP).

      EDIT:
      Finished. I dug into the ESPs to find every single new Race record and used your formula to scale their EXP by hand (I rounded up the nearest integer to a full number), and gave Ore/Stahlrim Guardians the same XP amount as Storm Atronachs (they have a base HP of 0). Turns out either the script you provided or TES5Edit itself failed to list every Race record so I copied them all by hand.
    4. z4x
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      Nice, but forgive me that I gave you wrong formula. What I used for vanilla races was HP/20 :)

      Also keep in mind that some vanilla races required manual changes because the HP/X didn't work for them, ex: dragon vs mammoth would give same XP. If it was just HP/20 based, we wouldn't need these CSV files and it could be fully automatic. I would prefer this, but couldn't find any reliable formula that would give semi balanced XP numbers taking Health + Health Bonus into account.

      Mammoth (lvl 38) - BaseHP: 500 + BonusHP: 0 = TotalHP: 500
      Dragon (lvl 40) - BaseHP: 500 + BonusHP: 1300 = TotalHP: 1800
    5. mangomod
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      Honestly, these values feel right as they are, though. Immersive Creatures are radically more difficult to fight than their rough equivalent vanilla enemy, so I feel like them giving slightly more generous XP rewards is fitting.

      I've been playing through with these values and leveling is still a reasonable grind (with the sheer amount of extra enemies taken into account), so I can't say these need to be recalculated. Perhaps the higher amounts need adjusted down a bit, like the Mechanical Dragons.
  8. z4x
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    Btw, after 0.3.0 these custom profiles can be loaded separately from main profile (no need to add new races to Default.csv manually).
    If someone made dump of races from Mihails or Immersive Creatures, I would move it to optional files.
  9. ZengarZonvolt
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    ive been busy playing my almost perfected SAOrim so i forgot be be active here so sorry. now about this. yeah thats quite a solution man. i also have some mod that adds new monsters so im pretty stumped that they dont pay out xp. i know this isnt the place but im working on perfecting my exp pay out rate now so it looks more like an MMO where humanoid character give so little it isnt worth it but monsters are chock-full of xp(ie draugr, animunculi, trolls, etc). i personally think that PK shouldnt give out xp that much.