People don't actually know this, but people back in the day ate a lot of apples. And green apples are especially good at cleaning your teeth, which are in the game btw.
Neat! Now all we need is some plaque and scurvy versions, lol.
EDIT: I didn't mean for my comment to come across the wrong way (if it did), I actually like the mod as it does a good job of making the teeth look real. I was just making a joke.
Actually it might be interesting to see a mod that would assign certain kinds of teeth to certain kinds of NPCs (beggars have worse oral hygiene than wealthy NPCs and so on), but that would probably be a whole bunch of work...
It would probably make for an interesting mod as far as immersion is concerned though.
After playing with this mod installed for a while, it really does do a good job of making the teeth look believable, more so than other mods I've seen on here over the years (and I've seen quite a few). The teeth aren't "too yellow" at all, they are "normal" or "average" in appearance, not like blinding white fake porcelain looking teeth.
They did have a form of toothbrush back in our mid-evil period and even further back, they would often break sticks of certain bushes and use the frayed end as a brush. Also what was posted, they simply didn't eat the sugary things we do so had better teeth to begin with. The only natural sweetener they had was honey. And it was used to sweeten many things and to even make candies. But honey has its own build in antibiotics and was used as a medicine. As for shaving, the ancient Egyptians shaved most if not all the hair from their bodies as a means to keep lice away. They also were the ones to start cutting a certain piece of skin of of male members genitals, then it was adopted by other cultures as a religious practice.
Teeth whitening is totally a thing of the last say 20 years of the 20th & 21st century, and the earlier means of doing it, with a pure Hydrogen-peroxide paste or gel did damage many peoples teeth. White teeth are not natural anyway. They should have a nice Ivory color to them. This modern obsession with teeth so white they glow under a black light is just insane. No other animal on this planet has snow white teeth, so why is it such a thing. We are simply in another wave of fad of body image and right now its blinding whit teeth and shaved bodies. It will fade away once the next body fad comes along.
pff! You sound like u spreadin blasphemy. L_L Egyptian weren't bald. They had invisible afros, everybody knows that! Also, aliens gave toothpaste to my grandmother back in 1562, and she never used it. So that means for all those years, my grandmum was a regular wood tooth. Almost like a beaver. i'm pretty sure the first toothpaste came from dinosaur teeth grindings, anyway. P_P
Interesting text Impulseman45! I also heard that most of the ancient Romans had pretty much perfect teeth (2000 years ago). It's all about what you put in your body that determines your dental health I think.
Ok, I'm not a dentist but I studied mouth microbiology and I gathered a lot of information about this matter when I whitened my teeth some years ago. These are my two cents:
Teeth don't get yellow because of sugar, cavities are the consequence of that. As you said, our teeth are yellowish but they turn darker with age and because of pigments that are naturally present in food; such as tomatos and certain fruits and vegetables, wine, tea/coffee and chocolate (although people in TES don't seem to have these latter three). Some medicines have this effect too, but there aren't any in this universe that we know of. We do know however that alchemy seems to be a very common thing in TES, and potions are prepared using several coloured plants that might darken the teeth of those who consume them on a regular basis. Then again, there might be potions or other alchemy products that make teeth whiter (which wouldn't be included in the game for obvious reasons), but aesthetics don't seem to be a primary concern in the 4th Era Skyrim anyway.
Last but not least, it's important to notice that good hygiene doesn't necessarily prevent teeth to turn yellower and darker, it's a combination of genetics, diet and hygiene habits. So unless people in Skyrim were naturally born with white teeth and brushed them after every meal with the right alchemy salves (and we have no evidence of that), they are more likely to have ugly dark yellow teeth (and halitosis, but let's be glad that videogames are not that realistic :P).
But it also makes you wonder what it would be like to be dropped into the middle ages of our world and have to smell what everyone was putting off back then. Another interesting misconception was that they used incense in churches to help keep the evil spirits away, but it was basically to mask the bad smell the congregation was putting off. And yes, coffee and tea are big teeth strainers, just look at the build up they leave in a white coffee cup in a days use, then think of that on teeth over years of drinking. I watched the latest version of a certain pirate movie series the other night and just shook my head at everyone's rotten teeth, movies are not portraying our ancestors very well.
My final 2 cents as I fear we are high-jacking the posts.
They look way too yellow my friend... Teeth don't naturally look like this, unless they've been smoking 12 packs of cigarettes a day... With that being said, they ARE unique which is always a welcome change. And use can be found in this, I am sure.
i REALLY like the thoughts behind this mod. i dont know why so many want a rough skyrim but white teeth with a shaved body. makes no f*#@ing sense. i was really positive suprised that Bethesda kept the chesthair on the male characters. now there are shaved mods too.
i dont see why i want white teeth in a medieval, (dark)-fantasy game. it's like in most Hollywood-Films. I absolutely hate it when they all have white and straight teeth and play a e.g. a knight.
you did very well, and i bet there are plenty who appreciate this mod. :^)
Oddly enough, there is a documentary on Medieval bones and the study of. An expert said they had better teeth than we do today, due to the lack of sugary foods in their daily diet. They also had their own methods for cleaning the teeth. White teeth would not have been an oddity by any stretch. Even the poor, because they could not afford sugar typically, had decent teeth. As well, they examined the teeth of soldiers. People also shaved. None of this is modern to just the last few hundred years. Of course there would have been those with poor hygiene habits and rotten teeth, just like today.
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Also, Nord chocolate is apparently a thing in lore so even if your sweetroll was stolen you'd still have sugary stuff to snack on.
Thanks for the mod, Gearhog!
EDIT: I didn't mean for my comment to come across the wrong way (if it did), I actually like the mod as it does a good job of making the teeth look real. I was just making a joke.
If I find the time between what's going on with my health and the new overhaul I'm working on, I'll definitely make a grosser version.
Your comment didn't come off wrong, so no worries!
It would probably make for an interesting mod as far as immersion is concerned though.
After playing with this mod installed for a while, it really does do a good job of making the teeth look believable, more so than other mods I've seen on here over the years (and I've seen quite a few). The teeth aren't "too yellow" at all, they are "normal" or "average" in appearance, not like blinding white fake porcelain looking teeth.
Teeth whitening is totally a thing of the last say 20 years of the 20th & 21st century, and the earlier means of doing it, with a pure Hydrogen-peroxide paste or gel did damage many peoples teeth. White teeth are not natural anyway. They should have a nice Ivory color to them. This modern obsession with teeth so white they glow under a black light is just insane. No other animal on this planet has snow white teeth, so why is it such a thing. We are simply in another wave of fad of body image and right now its blinding whit teeth and shaved bodies. It will fade away once the next body fad comes along.
Egyptian weren't bald. They had invisible afros, everybody knows that!
Also, aliens gave toothpaste to my grandmother back in 1562, and she never used it. So that means for all those years, my grandmum was a regular wood tooth. Almost like a beaver.
i'm pretty sure the first toothpaste came from dinosaur teeth grindings, anyway. P_P
I also heard that most of the ancient Romans had pretty much perfect teeth (2000 years ago). It's all about what you put in your body that determines your dental health I think.
Teeth don't get yellow because of sugar, cavities are the consequence of that. As you said, our teeth are yellowish but they turn darker with age and because of pigments that are naturally present in food; such as tomatos and certain fruits and vegetables, wine, tea/coffee and chocolate (although people in TES don't seem to have these latter three). Some medicines have this effect too, but there aren't any in this universe that we know of. We do know however that alchemy seems to be a very common thing in TES, and potions are prepared using several coloured plants that might darken the teeth of those who consume them on a regular basis. Then again, there might be potions or other alchemy products that make teeth whiter (which wouldn't be included in the game for obvious reasons), but aesthetics don't seem to be a primary concern in the 4th Era Skyrim anyway.
Last but not least, it's important to notice that good hygiene doesn't necessarily prevent teeth to turn yellower and darker, it's a combination of genetics, diet and hygiene habits. So unless people in Skyrim were naturally born with white teeth and brushed them after every meal with the right alchemy salves (and we have no evidence of that), they are more likely to have ugly dark yellow teeth (and halitosis, but let's be glad that videogames are not that realistic :P).
I watched the latest version of a certain pirate movie series the other night and just shook my head at everyone's rotten teeth, movies are not portraying our ancestors very well.
My final 2 cents as I fear we are high-jacking the posts.
...they're just teeth.
Teeth don't naturally look like this, unless they've been smoking 12 packs of cigarettes a day...
With that being said, they ARE unique which is always a welcome change.
And use can be found in this, I am sure.
But thank you!
Still good looking tho.
i was really positive suprised that Bethesda kept the chesthair on the male characters. now there are shaved mods too.
i dont see why i want white teeth in a medieval, (dark)-fantasy game. it's like in most Hollywood-Films. I absolutely hate it when they all have white and straight teeth and play a e.g. a knight.
you did very well, and i bet there are plenty who appreciate this mod. :^)
greetings
edit: I guess someone stole them all.