I know this is old, but the only problem I have with this is that the lute looks way too rustic for a stringed instrument. These instruments are supposed to be realistic, but if you take a look at guitars, specially electric ones, they've always been very ornamented and colorful like the original lute in skyrim. This is not recent nor is it exclusive to western cultures, instruments have been made like this for ages across cultures and are treated as if they were pieces of art on their own right. A more realistic approach would have been to keep the upgrades you've given to the original lute but keep the paint on, as I'm sure the Nords of Skyrim who have built cities like Solitude and Windhelm are smart enough to figure out that you can paint stuff to make it look prettier.
TL;DR The lute would have been more realistic if it was painted like the original
To those saying carving in the lute would ruin the instruments acoustics. Ie, you're wrong. Sorry. In this case it would change the acoustics only because it enlarges the hole. I imagine this was done as a shortcut to avoid having to make a new model, but I haven't looked at the model so I'm not sure.
Sad to say it took me all of 30 seconds to confirm both with Google. Just because something is normally done a certain way in your culture doesn't mean it's the only way it has ever been done.
That said... the lute looks like shite. Sorry. I prefer the original. Unvarnished and unpainted it looks like a paupers instrument. I can't imagine that all bards, even the ones at the bard's college, would have so little pride in thier instruments that they wouldn't want them to look as good as they sound. I have the exact same problem with the flute... though I think it still managed to look better than the original.
*shrug* no reason you can't improve it in version 2.0 right?
Not a lot of painting was done back in them times (assuming Skyrim is pseudo-early medieval) Heck, look up some videos of how your own grandpas done things, that fleuro lute always stuck out to me, dang eyesore
I have to agree with what you're saying. Although "I" don't see the point in playing a drum with fur head. To me, the idea of a drum is to sound out a beat over the sound of other instruments. It would be a good drum to give a kid so he doesn't drive you crazy.
I can't agree more with your assessment of the wood craftsmanship. I'm an amateur woodworker and even "I" wouldn't let something that rough out of my shop! The original lute looks like it was crafted from a beautiful piece of cherry wood, lovingly crafted by a master craftsman, with an inlay of mahogany around the opening, and a beautiful piece of black ebony (something you can't find anymore) for the neck. And as far as iron works for the string hardware and frets? Why not? they have steel swords and armor. It wouldn't take much to make some mettle hardware for an instrument. It probably wouldn't even cost that much, unless you wanted something really ornate. And, the gold embellishments? If it's not paint? It "could' be gold leaf.
The new one created by this mod, if cleaned up and polished a little, could be a good beginner's instrument. But, I'd like to see the original with better resolution as an instrument for "master" and professional bards.
I really do like and appreciate the effort put into this mod. I would just like to see the improvements mentioned. Have a heart for the craftsmen that actually 'made' them. They would 'never' sell something that looked as rough as that lute.
Thank goodness I wasn't the only one that noticed those issues. I'm a woodworker and I used to play the drums.
A true woodworking craftsman would give his work a lot more loving attention to his craft. He would choose wood with a beautiful grain pattern, embellishing the wood with some form of oil, rubbing it in lovingly to emphasize the beautiful wood. Especially in an instrument that is to be used to make beautiful music.
And, yes. Fur for the drum? That makes NO sense. The fur would muffle the sound to the point that you would have to be sitting right next to it to hear it well. Even then, the tone would be way off. And don't even 'think' of using sticks with a fur drum. They wouldn't rebound properly, let alone sound right.
I do love that flute. That was truly crafted by someone that loves their craft. The intricate carving is beautiful. I still think the user, or the craftsman that made it, would've oiled it somehow to enhance the beauty of the piece.
Thank you so much! (Fellow music nerd!) The instruments were way ahead of the game's uh, seemingly time? The vanilla instruments aren't medieval-esque, and lack detail. I find these simple items important, as I see them often. Thanks again!
hmm why u ask for SE and not test if works urself, its a texture mod there is nothing to be changed .... I play on SE version with normal skyrim texture mods since launch no crashes ( I avoid mods that change meshes)
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TL;DR The lute would have been more realistic if it was painted like the original
To those complaining about the fur drumhead. Sorry, wrong again. It produces a more muffled tone, yes... but it is still playable and still a known method of making drums.
Sad to say it took me all of 30 seconds to confirm both with Google. Just because something is normally done a certain way in your culture doesn't mean it's the only way it has ever been done.
That said... the lute looks like shite. Sorry. I prefer the original. Unvarnished and unpainted it looks like a paupers instrument. I can't imagine that all bards, even the ones at the bard's college, would have so little pride in thier instruments that they wouldn't want them to look as good as they sound. I have the exact same problem with the flute... though I think it still managed to look better than the original.
*shrug* no reason you can't improve it in version 2.0 right?
Heck, look up some videos of how your own grandpas done things, that fleuro lute always stuck out to me, dang eyesore
I can't agree more with your assessment of the wood craftsmanship. I'm an amateur woodworker and even "I" wouldn't let something that rough out of my shop!
The original lute looks like it was crafted from a beautiful piece of cherry wood, lovingly crafted by a master craftsman, with an inlay of mahogany around the opening, and a beautiful piece of black ebony (something you can't find anymore) for the neck. And as far as iron works for the string hardware and frets? Why not? they have steel swords and armor. It wouldn't take much to make some mettle hardware for an instrument. It probably wouldn't even cost that much, unless you wanted something really ornate. And, the gold embellishments? If it's not paint? It "could' be gold leaf.
The new one created by this mod, if cleaned up and polished a little, could be a good beginner's instrument. But, I'd like to see the original with better resolution as an instrument for "master" and professional bards.
I really do like and appreciate the effort put into this mod. I would just like to see the improvements mentioned. Have a heart for the craftsmen that actually 'made' them. They would 'never' sell something that looked as rough as that lute.
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The drum? Why does it have fur? Old drums where either made of tensed leather or lungs from mostly cows. Not fur.
The flute looks good though.
I'm a woodworker and I used to play the drums.
A true woodworking craftsman would give his work a lot more loving attention to his craft. He would choose wood with a beautiful grain pattern, embellishing the wood with some form of oil, rubbing it in lovingly to emphasize the beautiful wood. Especially in an instrument that is to be used to make beautiful music.
And, yes. Fur for the drum? That makes NO sense. The fur would muffle the sound to the point that you would have to be sitting right next to it to hear it well. Even then, the tone would be way off. And don't even 'think' of using sticks with a fur drum. They wouldn't rebound properly, let alone sound right.
I do love that flute. That was truly crafted by someone that loves their craft. The intricate carving is beautiful. I still think the user, or the craftsman that made it, would've oiled it somehow to enhance the beauty of the piece.