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  1. ZZhukov
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    And another sticky

    BOTI v1.2.1 up.

    Just a change in the header of the mod for the new USLEEP users.

    If you are using USKP 2.1.3 or above, stay with v1.2. You should use v1.1 if you have USKP 2.1.2 or below.

    If anyone has a problem with the USLEEP version, let me know.

    Aaand... now a patch. Valid for v1.2 and v1.2.1. It prevents the autopsy scene in the Hall of the Dead to run if you have saved Susanna (really odd to have Susanna alive at the same time that Helgird is doing the autopsy to a corpse that seems identical to Susanna...). It only contains the .bsa file, so just install over the old one (either manually or with NMM).
  2. ZZhukov
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    BOTIXtra up!

    Added a new optional file to allow purchasing the House of Curiosities after the main quest is complete. You can use this file without USKP and without BOTI Redux, so available for everyone. Just talk to Jorleif and the dialogue must be there.

    There are four outcomes for the purchase:
    -the house, with the basic furnitures (bed, wardrobe, table... Be aware, in this outcome you can't obtain the Butcher's diary)
    -the house and all it contains
    -the house only (no clutter at all)
    -the house and all the clutter but without the crates in the attic

    After you have what you want, you can uninstall BOTIXtra without any problems.
    1. toreishi
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      Does this properly change the ownership of items inside the house?
    2. ZZhukov
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      Yes, that's what the optional file does.
  3. Culuf
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    I guess this doesn't work anymore. I tried BOTI v1_2_1 for USLEEP 3.0 because that's the version of the unofficial patch I have.
    I'm not able to talk to Viola or Adonato about the murders unless I do setstage ms11 0, and then after their dialogue it does nothing.
    It doesn't matter if I go to the steward or run around the city talking to everybody. So if I setstage ms11 9 or 10, Susanna vanishes and dies.
    What's worse is that before this mod, I never had CTDs in Windhelm. I'm getting them constantly with it.

    I recommend just typing this in console after solving the whole murder:
    prid 1B11B
    enable
    moveto player
    There. She's alive like it never happened, besides the corpse
    1. ZZhukov
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      I don't know why it isn't working for you but it's working in my end with the last version of USLEEP (3.0.15). Maybe your problem is due to conflicts with another mod?
    2. RumiVixeni
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  4. AlastorBosch
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    I saw further down that someone had the same problem as me in 2021, and I did what was suggested (manual installation), and Vortex eventually complained anyway. (having trouble getting the BOTI update for USLEP 3.0+ to work. It claims it's for Oblivion).  I'm happy to ignore the warning, or should I use the 1.2 version? I know what ZZ said in the sticky, but I'm still confused. D'oh.

    ETA: I reinstalled everything, and it seems to be working, but the warning came back.  Susannah is alive, I've just forgotten how to actually start the quest. Lol  (I'll get there).
    1. ZZhukov
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      Just talk to Viola as soon as you can and follow the clues. There's no quest log until you enter Hjerim.
  5. scottmorton99
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    After entering Windhelm, typing SQS MS11 shows every single stage as 0.

    Setstage console commands had no effect.

    Susanna is alive, but there is no dialogue option with Viola, and her letters are nowhere to be seen.

    How do I fix this?
    1. ZZhukov
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      The letters are not touched at all by BOTI redux, so it may be other mod doing strange things to objects in Windhelm (I'm just guessing).

      Try entering Windhelm again without the mod, to see if you still have the same problem.
  6. charlesmartelmail
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    Could we get the latest version of this ported to console?  The patch that removes the dead Susanna too
  7. NCJP
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    Okay, so I know it's a long shot considering the last time this mod was updated was six years ago, I can't for the life of me get it to work. I pickpocketed the Hjerim key (originally by accident, which lead to me seeking a mod that would let me save Susannah somehow) and got the journals and the necklace, but I can't talk to anyone about them. I can't get Viola to talk to me at all. Maybe I'll try with a fresh save later, and see if that helps, but for now, *shrugs.* Great concept, at any rate!
    1. PoppyWoppy
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      The setstage ms11 trick should work, have to be about level 9 or 10 and be in Windhelm (I hate this quest)

      I hope u come back in 3 years just to restart for this one quest 
  8. dbj87jb
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    Any way to just reset this quest? I'm locked on "investigating" the grave despite speaking to the guard & going to halls of the dead & doing everything there.
    1. ZZhukov
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      Nope, no way to reset the quest.
  9. SMTitas
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    Tried this one out today, and over all, it was a good experience.
    I didn't know how to start the investigation, and Viola wouldn't talk to me for some reason. I suspect it might have been a mod interfering, like Reputation (I'm playing as a Dark Elf and I have a mixed bag). If that's the case, then I'm not complaining.
    Couldn't save Susanna. The dialogues and quest updates still paint Wuunferth as the murderer. But I spoke to him before accusing him and that opened up a new dialogue branch.
    Over all, I was satisfied. I'll have to try it out in the future with a lighter modlist that might conflict less.
  10. LucioJyggalag
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    Could i make voices with xvasynth?
  11. slackboy101
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    OI! your mod's CTD'ing even with USLEEP!!!
    1. ZZhukov
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      Are you using the right version for USLEEP? v1.2 is only for the old USKP.
  12. Blackwatch29
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    i think i'm blind AF but you never said anything about viola or how to start the quest on your description at all, so Susanna end up died again..
    but still thanks for the mod, but now i know how to do it properly after reading the comments..