I'm not sure why you have discontinued it, although I'm sure you have your reasons.
I was lucky to download the ENB version and I gotta say man, I'm loving it! It keeps lighting close to what CoT+ELFX give me on their own, but the graphic enhancements with your mod are brutal, in a very good way. I'll keep an eye out for any "fixed" ENB versions you may release in the future, anyway.
Long story short some CoT fantasy skies I coudn't normalise with my setup of effects killed me.
Graphical tweaking shares a lot with programmation... No effect is what it says it is once it is linked to another (hell, I even used bloom as an anti-bloom). You build your fundations and add layers of effects, each intricated in all the others, and then after hours of work comes a fatal bug (like a stupid shiny sky, hdr pink, or bloom overkill), that can't be avoided unless your rebuild everything from the ground.
Enough whining, if you still like the enb version at least use that better sun: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ur46v01d457p9i/enbseries.ini?dl=0 Also Cot Weather list (not my work) that should have been more or less tweaked one by one (this is madness): https://www.dropbox.com/s/jcpqw23uiynrjoe/_weatherlist.ini?dl=0
Too bad you are discontinuing the ENB version. I was really liking what you had so far and will probably still use it. Just a thought here but maybe just put up a simple version with a bare bones basic ENB to make use of ENBoost and no graphical enhancements other than shadows since non-enb shadows are poopy to put it mildly. No need to go all in on an ENB and tweak for all the weathers and stuff. IMHO that is all that is needed.
Very nice fixes! I thought I'd have to tweak the sun myself, but you've done a great job.
Everything looks great so far. Just for the record, I'm using the ENB+SweetFX version with the following lighting mods:
Climates of Tamriel (all default) - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/17802/? Supreme Storms (for CoT) - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/27022/? Climates of Tamriel Weather Patch (with the 40% snow brightness fix option) - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/39799/? Enhanced Lights and FX - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/27043/?
Other than the above, I only tweaked in-game brightness via the skyrimprefs.ini, which is a monitor dependent setting and thus out of your control, and disabled the DoF, because of personal taste (I might actually enable it again at some point).
Thanks for the update. Please, let me know of any other tweak you may come up with.
P.S. having the ENB option is nice for those of us that'd like to benefit from the parallax fixes, edgeAA and other goodies from Boris. Somebody already mentioned this in the comments. It would have been a shame if I had missed this mod because it didn't have ENB; just a thought.
I assume the screenshots with the DOF are from your discontinued ENB? I really like the look in those shots, could you possibly give me the settings to use?
Using dynavision I suspect. Perhaps not as good as bohken...but with enb presets I typically have to disable dof to get a steady >30 fps and with this sweetfx preset + dynavision it is very playable at ~60 fps, graphics a very crisp, and this is with a very heavily texture modded setup (all mods from "Skyrim mod combiner" mods included).
Endorsed. Not sure I even miss enb...and I sure like the crisp visuals and the better fps and when it comes to thinking gmeplay it is more immersive for me. I hope you keep improving this on top of vanilla. Endorsed.
Wow! I just tried DERP v4 (Rich Peasants Edition) and got the strangest results.All the plants turned different shades of red, the buildings in the background glowed with a ghostly phosphorescence, and all the inhabitants of Skyrim turned platinum blonde. It was like all the female Country-Western Singers were holding a convention on Mars!
Any idea how this might have happened? Was it my accursed AMD GPU card? My use of Relighting Skyrim? Me personally? Any help would be appreciated...
That's essentially what I had, except I had more RAM and VRAM available. Nevertheless, I just tried DERP v4a and all the freaky effects appear to be gone. I'll report on the performance later.
you killin' me, Bro - lol - DERP just keeps getting better, at least IMHO - everybody's got their own unique tastes of course, but i just tried V3 without COT/ELFX & i actually love it that way even more, to me it's looks even more stark-realism; but everytime i tink you can't make it more realistic, you do - lol - now, you're talkin' about adding ENB - you're on FIRE, Bro ;-)
I just tried the new V3 settings as well and they are great: just right!
P.S.: You might want to consider just posting "updates" of SweetFX_Settings.txt, since that is all you have been changing, with instructions to overwrite the previous one, rather than DLing the rest of the unchanged files over and over.
I just tried the new V3 settings as well and they are great: just right!
P.S.: You might want to consider just posting "updates" of SweetFX_Settings.txt, since that is all you have been changing, with instructions to overwrite the previous one, rather than DLing the rest of the unchanged files over and over.
Yeah, increasing contrast to the max while keeping an overall realistic brighness during all time/climate of the day was a real pain ! There's 6 effects to tweak to get it right, and they all work together. Mess with one, and the five other will be produce wierd things.
Considering the very light size of SweetFX I think it's better to keep it simple like that. No newcomer to SweetFX will wonder why this mod is just a .txt doing nothing.
sup bro - indeed agree, V3.2=PERFECTION; Q: when i use both COT & ELFX, the interior of my home (LakeviewManor - HearthFire) is unbearably dark (other interiors too but for caves etc makes sense but not for homes IMHO); but when i use only ELFX everything is awesome - just thought you'd like to know - but again i know it all depends on what other mods are being used, as well as personal-tastes, so... anywho, needless to say i'm quite excited bout your upcoming ENB for DERP!!
Strangely DERP by itself looks quite wierd and oversaturated on your screenshots. Do you take them with the built in SweetFX function (just push print screen) ?
I must admit I'm not focusing that much on interiors (just taking a few steps in homes here and there to make sure things are not fucked up). I figured I'll find a good mod combination for them later, but surely there will be some ELFX inside, because DERP+ELFX-exteriors produce that sort of thing
yeah just using "printscreen", btw pics i uploaded look darker than they do in-game for me (comp) but pretty close
but just noticed huge differences in interior homes depending on time of day/night & also depending on the particular home; will take more screenshots & upload later at different times of day/night
but in any case, i'm still lovin' the shyt outta DERP - lol
how's the ENB comin' along?
EDIT: so i guess it's just personal taste - lol - but i just went to every major area/home, interiors&exteriors, morning/afternoon/evening - with each of the 3 combinations - i definitely love just DERP solo best, to me it just looks so fugn realistic, but with any of the combo's it looks just a lil' bit less realistic for me (perhaps it's my monitor, i play on a 48" flatscreen calibrated for film/video editing; plus the screenshots i took are kinda close to what it looks like on my monitor but not quite at all, pics look way more saturated/dark)
anywho, having settled on just DERP solo, i tweaked with IMAGINATOR (MCM manual menu-plugin), i'm one fugn happy SKYRIM'r ;-)
i'll test all over again when you release your ENB - lol
after all my testing, DERP is still fugn ROCKIN' the shyt outta every other SweetFX and/or ENB i've ever tried for stark-realism, Bro
Enb is almost ready, pretty easy; all the insanely tedious work on light balance is already done by SweetFX. Now it's just a matter of picking some shiny and lighweihgt shaders and put them in Enb !
wish i could endorse DERP again - lol - now with ENB (best i could do is click the "VOTE" button, which i have no idea what it does - lol - clicked the "KUDOS" button on your profile as well ;-)
the most noticeable difference i see as far as realism with the ENB is in exteriors, gives it a lil' extra "pop" - i just had to stand-still sometimes & just look around - the photo-realism blows me away
the interiors with the ENB, especially homes, are still extremely dark for me (corners are literally pitch-black); tested with COT+ELFX, as well as RLO, URWL, RS, & ELE - all had their strong-points & weak-points, but for me nothing beat DERP ENB + ELFX in terms of overall (interiors/exteriors) realism & lighting
then again, i was totally satisfied with DERP LITE - lol - so if i had noticed any performance-issues with the ENB, i would have been more than happy to stick with it - but performance-wise, DERP ENB also rocks ;-)
btw, in your earlier DERP homepage description, you mentioned "a well-calibrated monitor" as one of the requirements - as i mentioned above, i use an LCD flatscreen calibrated for film/video editing - do you think calibrating it for SKYRIM specifically would help the ultra-dark COT interiors issue i seem to get? if so, do you know of a link or some info about calibrating monitors for SKYRIM?
Unless you got a ... Well what's the english name of the costly device you use to calibrate a screen :p ? You best bet to get a good screen setup is to grab a review of yours on a trusted site like tft central and apply their reommandation and icc profile.
I said that because I got a screen that is known to offer good colors and brightness restition, and I also happenend to have spend hours pushing values back and forth like "oh man this grass is too green, wait did I just messed up the sky" ? Also most daytime time shadow are maniacally balanced to be very very deep but still not black, like irl. So a bad setup on a monitor can very easily mess that up.
I removed the sentence because I figured people just don't care :p
But that could very well be the cause of you problem, I'll have a better look at interiors now that I can't change things based on place and time with enb, there is surely still a lot of work to do...
hey Bro ;-) i think we may be on the same "vibe" - lol - i switched back to DERP Lite after googling "calibrate monitor for SKYRIM"; found some good/interesting info on STEP & NEXUS Forums - long story short (lemme know if you want the details - lol) we calibrate all our monitors at the editing studio with Pantone ColorMunki (i think this is the type device you were referring to above?) so as far as true-to-life colors, our monitors are perfect, very important for film/video editing of course to get accurate color-correction/grading
anywho, i did what they suggested to the monitor i use for SKYRIM (a considerably different approach to monitor-calibration due to they say SKYRIM's internal color-profile that over-rides the monitor's profile); it made a great difference, i can't imagine it looking anymore REAL than this:
if you like, i'll take a few more, just lemme know - i think screenshots like this would really get hoards of ENB lovers to take notice of your work & give you the endorsements you deserve, Bro - there ain't ANY ENB's out there (i've literally tried them all) that gives such unbelievable photo-realism as DERP by itself does
so i have to agree with your discontinuing the DERP ENB version, cause it's just not at all necessary ;-)
ok, now what glorious shyt do you have planned for us now when you say "the real-deal for Vanilla SKYRIM??? - something other than this fabulous SweetFX???
Giving the new ENB version a test now with RLO, so far it looks and performs great. Have to use RLO right now since ELFX and ETaC have issues with each other until ETaC does an update. Nights are pretty dark with RLO but for some people that's a good thing, gives me a reason for my Khajit night vision.
First thing I did was disable DoF, don't like the effect personally. Which setting do I adjust to brighten things up just a touch ? With RLO things are just a little too dark even with night eye. I'm sure it would be much better with ELFX. The in game gamma settings don't do anything with RLO.
Best would be to install a brighter night lvl from cot because blabla light balance, but you can aswell go for #define Gamma .80 // [0.000 to 2.000] in sweetfxsettings.txt and set something like 75.
The gamma setting in the SweetFX didn't seem to do much, I think it might be something with how RLO works (no idea though). So I tried a different approach and installed Relighting Skyrim instead and that so far seems to be more in line with my tastes. Uploaded a screen shot with it taken in the thieves guild bar. Will do some more testing later tonight with ELE - Interiors module.
Edit: Uploaded some new screen shots using Relighting Skyrim along with Ele plugins from this web page http://enbdev.com/enbseries/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1930
Compatibality with ENBOOST - Rename the d3d9.dll file from this to something like d3d9_DERP.dll. - Open your enblocal.ini file from ENBoost with Notepad or Notepad++ replace the [PROXY] section with this: -[PROXY] EnableProxyLibrary=true InitProxyFunctions=true ProxyLibrary=d3d9_DERP.dll - Copy the contents of the extracted folder with the renamed .dll to your Skyrim folder as you would installing the mod normally.
(There might be other ways, but this is what I knew)
Hey, you have done some greate work here mate! Just for your information, SweetFX works with Windows 8.1 use DERP on my Laptop with 8.1 64-bit without any problems.
Uploaded 2 screenshots with my setup using RLO and Ultimate Lighting Overhaul ENB, one indoor and one outdoor. This is also with the SweetFX 1.4 dlls, I just copied the SweetFX_Settings.txt file over.
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I was lucky to download the ENB version and I gotta say man, I'm loving it! It keeps lighting close to what CoT+ELFX give me on their own, but the graphic enhancements with your mod are brutal, in a very good way. I'll keep an eye out for any "fixed" ENB versions you may release in the future, anyway.
This is very much endorsed.
Long story short some CoT fantasy skies I coudn't normalise with my setup of effects killed me.
Graphical tweaking shares a lot with programmation... No effect is what it says it is once it is linked to another (hell, I even used bloom as an anti-bloom).
You build your fundations and add layers of effects, each intricated in all the others, and then after hours of work comes a fatal bug (like a stupid shiny sky, hdr pink, or bloom overkill), that can't be avoided unless your rebuild everything from the ground.
Enough whining, if you still like the enb version at least use that better sun: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ur46v01d457p9i/enbseries.ini?dl=0
Also Cot Weather list (not my work) that should have been more or less tweaked one by one (this is madness): https://www.dropbox.com/s/jcpqw23uiynrjoe/_weatherlist.ini?dl=0
Everything looks great so far. Just for the record, I'm using the ENB+SweetFX version with the following lighting mods:
Climates of Tamriel (all default) - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/17802/?
Supreme Storms (for CoT) - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/27022/?
Climates of Tamriel Weather Patch (with the 40% snow brightness fix option) - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/39799/?
Enhanced Lights and FX - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/27043/?
Other than the above, I only tweaked in-game brightness via the skyrimprefs.ini, which is a monitor dependent setting and thus out of your control, and disabled the DoF, because of personal taste (I might actually enable it again at some point).
Thanks for the update. Please, let me know of any other tweak you may come up with.
P.S. having the ENB option is nice for those of us that'd like to benefit from the parallax fixes, edgeAA and other goodies from Boris. Somebody already mentioned this in the comments. It would have been a shame if I had missed this mod because it didn't have ENB; just a thought.
Any idea how this might have happened? Was it my accursed AMD GPU card? My use of Relighting Skyrim? Me personally? Any help would be appreciated...
There is parameters for the memory hack/boost right there, and there is no wonder a memory bug can totally cause that sort of thing.
Here's my setup for a 780ti (3gb vram -> this is the most important value) with 8Gb ram on system (also important).
[MEMORY]
ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=false
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false
ReservedMemorySizeMb=512
VideoMemorySizeMb=3000
EnableCompression=true
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false
Thank you
Here's my setup for a 780ti (3gb vram -> this is the most important value) with 8Gb ram on system (also important).
[MEMORY]
ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=false
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false
ReservedMemorySizeMb=512
VideoMemorySizeMb=3000
EnableCompression=true
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false
P.S.: You might want to consider just posting "updates" of SweetFX_Settings.txt, since that is all you have been changing, with instructions to overwrite the previous one, rather than DLing the rest of the unchanged files over and over.
P.S.: You might want to consider just posting "updates" of SweetFX_Settings.txt, since that is all you have been changing, with instructions to overwrite the previous one, rather than DLing the rest of the unchanged files over and over.
There's 6 effects to tweak to get it right, and they all work together. Mess with one, and the five other will be produce wierd things.
Considering the very light size of SweetFX I think it's better to keep it simple like that. No newcomer to SweetFX will wonder why this mod is just a .txt doing nothing.
It's going like that for me: http://static-3.nexusmods.com/15/mods/110/images/57242-1-1408928798.jpg
Quite playable.
And the screenshot compression darkens things, its a bit more bright irl.
In case you really find things too dark, use the gamma slider of the game or this setting in SweetFX_Settings.txt
#define Gamma.78 // [0.000 to 2.000]
Go for a 70-75 value.
here's how it looks for me (with no other GFX mods)...
DERP with both COT & ELFX: http://static-1.nexusmods.com/15/mods/110/images/57242-1-1408999810.jpg
DERP with just COT: http://static-1.nexusmods.com/15/mods/110/images/57242-3-1408999811.jpg
DERP with just ELFX: http://static-1.nexusmods.com/15/mods/110/images/57242-2-1408999810.jpg
DERP by Itself: http://static-1.nexusmods.com/15/mods/110/images/57242-1-1409000528.jpg
doesn't my DERP by Itself pic look closer to your DERP with both COT & ELFX pic?
I must admit I'm not focusing that much on interiors (just taking a few steps in homes here and there to make sure things are not fucked up).
I figured I'll find a good mod combination for them later, but surely there will be some ELFX inside, because DERP+ELFX-exteriors produce that sort of thing
http://static-3.nexusmods.com/15/mods/110/images/57242-1-1408957378.jpg
And I just can't pass on such crazy awesome night ambiance, it feels so true.
but just noticed huge differences in interior homes depending on time of day/night & also depending on the particular home; will take more screenshots & upload later at different times of day/night
but in any case, i'm still lovin' the shyt outta DERP - lol
how's the ENB comin' along?
EDIT: so i guess it's just personal taste - lol - but i just went to every major area/home, interiors&exteriors, morning/afternoon/evening - with each of the 3 combinations - i definitely love just DERP solo best, to me it just looks so fugn realistic, but with any of the combo's it looks just a lil' bit less realistic for me (perhaps it's my monitor, i play on a 48" flatscreen calibrated for film/video editing; plus the screenshots i took are kinda close to what it looks like on my monitor but not quite at all, pics look way more saturated/dark)
anywho, having settled on just DERP solo, i tweaked with IMAGINATOR (MCM manual menu-plugin), i'm one fugn happy SKYRIM'r ;-)
i'll test all over again when you release your ENB - lol
after all my testing, DERP is still fugn ROCKIN' the shyt outta every other SweetFX and/or ENB i've ever tried for stark-realism, Bro
Enb is almost ready, pretty easy; all the insanely tedious work on light balance is already done by SweetFX. Now it's just a matter of picking some shiny and lighweihgt shaders and put them in Enb !
TEASING TIME ยงยง
http://static-4.nexusmods.com/15/mods/110/images/57242-1-1409055716.jpg
the most noticeable difference i see as far as realism with the ENB is in exteriors, gives it a lil' extra "pop" - i just had to stand-still sometimes & just look around - the photo-realism blows me away
the interiors with the ENB, especially homes, are still extremely dark for me (corners are literally pitch-black); tested with COT+ELFX, as well as RLO, URWL, RS, & ELE - all had their strong-points & weak-points, but for me nothing beat DERP ENB + ELFX in terms of overall (interiors/exteriors) realism & lighting
then again, i was totally satisfied with DERP LITE - lol - so if i had noticed any performance-issues with the ENB, i would have been more than happy to stick with it - but performance-wise, DERP ENB also rocks ;-)
btw, in your earlier DERP homepage description, you mentioned "a well-calibrated monitor" as one of the requirements - as i mentioned above, i use an LCD flatscreen calibrated for film/video editing - do you think calibrating it for SKYRIM specifically would help the ultra-dark COT interiors issue i seem to get? if so, do you know of a link or some info about calibrating monitors for SKYRIM?
thanks, Bro, awesome fugn job
Peace, Love, & Success
alex
You best bet to get a good screen setup is to grab a review of yours on a trusted site like tft central and apply their reommandation and icc profile.
I said that because I got a screen that is known to offer good colors and brightness restition, and I also happenend to have spend hours pushing values back and forth like "oh man this grass is too green, wait did I just messed up the sky" ? Also most daytime time shadow are maniacally balanced to be very very deep but still not black, like irl. So a bad setup on a monitor can very easily mess that up.
I removed the sentence because I figured people just don't care :p
But that could very well be the cause of you problem, I'll have a better look at interiors now that I can't change things based on place and time with enb, there is surely still a lot of work to do...
anywho, i did what they suggested to the monitor i use for SKYRIM (a considerably different approach to monitor-calibration due to they say SKYRIM's internal color-profile that over-rides the monitor's profile); it made a great difference, i can't imagine it looking anymore REAL than this:
http://static-1.nexusmods.com/15/mods/110/images/57242-1-1409241039.jpg
totally fugn SCARY realistic, yes?
;-)
if you like, i'll take a few more, just lemme know - i think screenshots like this would really get hoards of ENB lovers to take notice of your work & give you the endorsements you deserve, Bro - there ain't ANY ENB's out there (i've literally tried them all) that gives such unbelievable photo-realism as DERP by itself does
so i have to agree with your discontinuing the DERP ENB version, cause it's just not at all necessary ;-)
ok, now what glorious shyt do you have planned for us now when you say "the real-deal for Vanilla SKYRIM??? - something other than this fabulous SweetFX???
Peace, Love, & Success
alex
Which setting do I adjust to brighten things up just a touch ? With RLO things are just a little too dark even with night eye. I'm sure it would be much better with ELFX. The in game gamma settings don't do anything with RLO.
So I tried a different approach and installed Relighting Skyrim instead and that so far seems to be more in line with my tastes. Uploaded a screen shot with it taken in the thieves guild bar. Will do some more testing later tonight with ELE - Interiors module.
Edit:
Uploaded some new screen shots using Relighting Skyrim along with Ele plugins from this web page http://enbdev.com/enbseries/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1930
P.S.: I routinely disable DOF because I hate the way it looks.
- Rename the d3d9.dll file from this to something like d3d9_DERP.dll.
- Open your enblocal.ini file from ENBoost with Notepad or Notepad++ replace the [PROXY] section with this:
-[PROXY]
EnableProxyLibrary=true
InitProxyFunctions=true
ProxyLibrary=d3d9_DERP.dll
- Copy the contents of the extracted folder with the renamed .dll to your Skyrim folder as you would installing the mod normally.
(There might be other ways, but this is what I knew)
Btw I'll add the Enb version tomorow.
That's really wierd it works for you; unless you do the radeonpro trick it is a well known incompatibility.
I run it on 8.1 too
So maybe a mention of that could be the best solution
(My source is S.T.E.P)