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Notice: To avoid some possible problems, such as enemies' damage is too high(caused by updated error), a NEW GAME is recommended or you can wait for game to refresh!!
BUG FIXED
1.Fixed a bug you will learn another dragon aspect shout.
2.Fixed data errors of spell "scorching weapon".
GAMEPLAY
1.Most of enemies can be looted.
2.Most of enemies' resistance is weakened.
3.Most spider enemies' Ai and skills are changed.
4.Add Unique enemies to some Dungeons.
5.Some bosses' Ai and skills are changed.
Here is a list of NPCs which can't be looted off their weapons, armor or ammunition:
- Sigdis Gauldurson
- Dwarven Spheres
- A LOT of bandits (Bosses, Chiefs and others)
- A LOT of skeletons (Overlords, Lords, Daedric Skeletons and others)
- Headless Knight
- Gravesinger mages
- Vokun's Warrior
- Vokun's Ranger
- Draugr Lords
- Red Eagle
- Dwarven Defenders
- Specter
- Faceless
- Some NPCs carrying orcish armor (usually bandits)
- Some NPCs carrying Vampire Royal armor (stronger vampires)
- Some NPCs carrying steel or plate armor (usually bandits)
- Some alchemist type enemies
- Some enemies carrying ebony armor
- Some NPCs carrying companion armor
- Emperor Skeletons
- Some enemies carrying glass armor
- Warlocks
And the list goes on. If I spend my time listing every single piece of equipment which can't be looted, I'll spend the night here. But generally, most bosses or stronger enemies can't be looted. Did you think that you'll be rewarded for this long battle that you had with that one bandit chieftain? Fat chance. Did you think that murdering a powerful mage for his rare robes will improve your magicka by wearing whatever enchanted items they have? Nope. Artificial difficulty in it's prime.
If you guys want to see for yourself just how many unlootable equipment there is, open the damn ESP in TES5Edit and take a look for yourself. In the armor section alone, MOST armor can't be looted. Much more than just half of it. Probably 75%. Most enemies still can't be looted without you having to patch it yourself.
TL;DR: "Most of enemies can be looted." is not true. If you expect RotE 2016 to have fixed unlootable enemies, don't download this, because the fix for unlootable enemies was NOT implemented. The author either forgot to do the fix or is misleading people on purpose.
i really want to try 2.2 but all this bug i have a little of fear
- Bosses have been nerfed from "Utterly curbstompingly broken" to the point of just "utterly broken".
- Base enemies (bandits and such) have been buffed to the "utterly broken" point to compensate for the bosses losing the curbstomping part.
- The dragonborn still doesn't know how to loot armor, that has been a persistent problem with RotE so if you enjoy your character being dumb enough not to pick up armor while running about butt naked, it's not a huge problem.
- The dodges actually make sense. It will be spectacular combat while the enemy is running up towards you teleporting right and left to avoid your arrows. Then you spend 30 minutes chipping their health to half before rincing and repeating as they spam heal spells and the spectacle rapidly becomes a grind.
- Regular mooks now have more potential than bosses. That's right. You can overlevel to 200 and slaughter dragonpriests. And then be roflstomped by a lowly bandit who just needs a few coins for some cannis root tea.
In all honesty, I'm being a little too harsh as this mod fits a very specific niche. In the same way that wanna-be dominatrix gals appeal to masochistic old men. But unless you are very specifically a masochist to the point where you need the game to be broken, there's no point in using RotE whatsoever. If you actually enjoy cheating AI as opposed to challenging AI though, you shall be fine with whatever version of RotE as they're all equally broken.
I beated Hevnoraak (dragon priest), and looted on his body a master level alteration spell, "magical protection", that gives 100 armor, 10% magic resist, 10% magic absorbtion for 60 sec.
Problem is : i can't find any mention anywhere of this spell. And since this mod is the only one i installed that had game-altering stuff (and not fixes), would you know where this comes from?
Thanks !
TL,DR: Just because a bug can be "circumvented" doesn't means it shouldn't be fixed in the first place.
Some of the dragon priests are a good example in 1.95: 100% immunity/absorption of all magic may sound good on paper if the boss is supposed to be an anti-mage. But in practice, it means that magic is essentially completely useless in that battle. It doesn't add a complex magic system which your character has to learn and/or master to be able to pierce magical defenses. It just removes the ability to use magic, completely.
That may not be broken in your book, however it is in mine. If you're roleplaying a pure mage, with the example above you're basically being told to break your immersion and start learning armor/weapons. Even if you're at a hundred on each magic school, you're still incapable of doing damage.
Another example would be enemies with physical resistance approaching 99%. It's not that they're have some advanced AI, some strategy or that they're intelligent, it's that they can simply ignore your physical damage completely, so you will have to either repeat the same slash/block/stagger motion a hundred times or you will have to break immersion and teach your warrior some advanced magics.
Overall, the difficulty isn't coming from any particularly potent AI. There's no new strategy, no new tactics, no additional depth. All RotE does is make the old combinations/techniques useless without adding new ones.
The ONLY thing which RotE does well is increasing enemy dodges and make them that much more potent in combat. It makes ice magic that much more useful: to force enemies to actually hold still. But yes, those thought out balancing decisions are almost non existent.
TL,DR: Balancing is non-existent in RotE. Author gives the impression of having no idea how base Skyrim works and even less idea what his edits do. I'm not sure if he rolled the dice to come up with the numbers, or if he's just a misunderstood genius, but for all intents and purposes you could have about the same results by slapping a monkey hard enough 'till it writes random numbers on the keyboard and then going with these as "appropriate enough to deliver sufficient amount of hurt."
my dragon priest are very difficult but i think it is normal, with my 2hand warrior liv 50 i die after 2 spell, so i just take a few of magic resist and a lot o potion
maybe with your mage you can go with companion and summon
next game i try 2016 verion with a pure mage
I'd like to see a complete list of these spells if possible
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73369/?
Um. ... okey... That's your problem of having a weak character. Your character is not ment to finish all the content. Obviously your character is not ment to be able to destroy certain enemies. End of story. If you want to still pass through it think outside the box and it's possible while staying in-character. Buy a stave, get magic fallower, use bought poisons on weapons. Buy enchanted weapon. None of this is beyond a character who can't cast spells. S
That's the whole part of the challenge which is fun. You need to prepare and think how to overcome something with-in your character. Leave the dungeon, buy stuff, return. Die -> try -> die -> try something else... 5-6th time you managed. GZ. That's how you play an interesting game.
You misunderstand. I've played 40hrs of this mod and really like it, but I'm playing as a mage with no melee weapons. Some bosses and high level enemies are completley immune to spells. Frost, fire, and shock spells don't work at all, only melee weapons do, which is out of character. I played the old version of this mod for a bit and didn't encounter this problem, so I have reason to believe its a bug.
Why it's out of character? I always found out of character that you can hurt dremora with puny steel weapon or that you can physically damage a god damn ghost. Doesn't take a long stretch of imagination that some opponents might be just immune to certain thing. If player can stack spell absorption to insane levels so should opponents be able to do so. Fair on my book.
Conjure physical damage creatures. Or heal and support good old Lydia. Problem solved.
Yes it challenges you to really play differently rather than breeze through contents at places. And thats what I really like about this mod. At some point "stat check" or "just hammer them with a spoon enough times and they will fall" tactics are rendered obsolete. Not completely, in very few places, but it does give that surprise factor sometimes.
I hope I'll meet opponents with Silence like mechanics. Or with very strong drain vitality dragon shouts etc. When only choice to play it out.. like after dying 4th times in a row, slow time and try to dodge. Maybe get back home, stack some shout cd reduction and get back
But with disabled fast travel you really try to come prepared though.
And the player should be powerful enough to take on enemies, yeah the vanilla game was ridiculous on how overpowered the player can be, but that doesn't mean the player should have extreme unfair odds set against them.
Lore wise, every low or high level skeleton and draugr seemed to use shouts, so EVERYONE of them trained to shout?
I don't really have a point here, this mod is great and all but there are just too many times that its overpowered and unbalanced.
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All in all, though, it's a good mod, and sort-of essential for me. I have a love-hate relationship with RotE, and not a day goes by that I don't wish for some modder to balance this mod to the level it so deserves. XD
The same complaints happen with mods like Deadly Dragons and High Level Enemies. Players do softcore, role-play focused characters, where maybe they get a random 40% fire resist from something, but never really focus on resists at all. Then they install Deadly Dragons, set it to Insane-Nightmare-Ultra-Hard, and complain when they get one-shot by a dragon that expected them to health-stack and have max resists, and blame the mod for being poorly balanced.
This mod is fantastic for high-power, min-maxed playthroughs that want to solve the puzzles of how to deal with enemies, and carry around a variety of solutions to deal with the various problems that they may encounter.
Pairing this with mods like Battle Fatigue and Injuries, Combat Consequences, Armored Sprint, Bows Draw Faster, TK Dodge, Bring Your Silver, Supernatural Overhaul, Better Divine Blessings, Shoutcraft, etc. is really rewarding. Your character is very powerful and versatile, but the enemies are just as tough, will stretch your problem-solving and reflexes to the max, and the consequences for screwing up are palpable, without making things too repetitive.
But whatever you do, don't install this on a light-hearted, softcore, role-play playthrough where you don't want to min-max the crap out of everything, because the mod Will Force you to min-max the crap out of everything. Because that's the Point of it!
This is the most fun mod I ever played. It adds a lot of challenging opponents.
ROE author had the genius of making combat diversification.
A typical examples you can find it in:
- Bandit Chiefs: he created 4 categories (one Imperial, one Nord, one Breton and one Redguard, each with his own class and outfit)
- He removed all Nord/Imperial/redguard Magic bandit and left only two class "Breton and Dark/High Elf"' for Bandit mages.
But very few understand.
This is too hard and don't worth it. I started a new game and was trying to defeat Red Eagle at 9 lvl. He killed me with a poo (for a 100 times). Then i found savegames with my previous character who was 90 lvl death machine. Red Eagle showed her who's daddy here within 10 sec. I had even no chance to do anything. He has i suppose about 2.5k HP, uses fire breath shout every damn 5-10 sec, conjure 2 powerfull fire creatures look like magic anomaly and also he removes 30-50% of my health with one hit of a sword. I suppose he also can heal himself. I killed him only when i take my two legendary daedric swords and make twist attack for 3 times in a row.
I really like when enemies start to fight and use magic and different combat styles, but this mod makes it too much difficult
>complains how enemies become super duper overpower
>install another mod where player become super duper overpower
>complain how game become super duper easy
Man, I love skyrim modding community!
Did you remove the mod from xbox bethesda? Please bring it back!!
Although I play Skyrim LE and I've never used any ENB so I can't think of anything else. but I have never seen that warning.
Too bad, I always play with this mod, I recently tried to remove it because it had several CTDs and I think it's because of the draugs that drop that white power, but it was more unfortunate to play without the mod than to suffer those CTDs.
final thoughts? I think it’s a good mod with a lot of nice ideas but it needs a bit of tuning if you’re still working on this mod. The mod allows for tactical gameplay and having to plan out a strategy for bosses but some bosses sits on the fence of being hard but fair and hard but cheap. This is definitely a mod I’m gunna stick to using but I hope the balance could be taken a look at if you do end up working at the mod again.
avoid getting close, no matter how much defense against fire you have he will destroy you with one of his powers, this particular boss is better to take an essential follower and use it as a hook and atronach, or lord daedra, you are going to use them to be able to run to a safe place while the giant dwemer entertains whit them haha.
These last playtrought I have played with battle mage style so I put myself somewhere far away + potion to increase archery + zero configuration cost (for casting anything and many times because they die fast) and without a follower.
So yeah, this mod doesn't pull its punches like almost every other combat mod out there.
For example, later on there are dragon priests who can insta-kill any living creature, as well as turn summons on you. So, since I am using ordinator, I hacked a centurion into my command, and let the automaton to do the fighting instead. It is fun coming up with solutions other than brute force.
Also, some of the bosses have really unique abilities to make their encounters memorable. I love this mod, but each to their own.
Thanks Rambo, but you didn't live in Skyrim (unless someone modded your preset or a follower, but I have not seen).
Maybe it's a little unbalanced at times and other times too ridiculous the damage that the player does to other npc, but the good thing about it is that it is not static. there are surprises and it makes you think of other strategies than the usual and common ones
one that regenerates stamina permanently, another that had something to do with life restoration or was from the restoration school
two spellbook in the school of alteration that you use as a cloak, one of fire and the other of ice that transfer that power to any weapon you have equipped or even if you switch between weapons, doing additional fire or ice damage (I don't remember but I think it works too on fist fight)
There are also scrolls that regenerate life or magic 300% faster for a long time. there were others that I don't even remember
there is a weapon that has the power of shadow, disenchantable, and with an aesthetic in how the weapon looks that is spectacular (it looks like a light blue/violet trail that comes out along the length of the weapon (I do not recommend using it on daggers since that the minimum is a sword, otherwise you will see the trail that protrudes from the dagger up to the height of a sword)
and I don't remember what else was in this mod
I wouldn't know how to tell you exactly about clothes or armor since I don't remember and some things I have never known in the vanilla form since I have a mod that replaces armor and clothes without counting others, so if it add or modify something else I wouldn't know
However, I wrote this down by memory and it may not be 100% accurate since I can get confused with another mod, as soon as I can I'll see it in the game and I'll tell you better
edit: Yes, among others, these are some powers, although maybe one of them is wrong and is from SIC (immersive creatures) or maybe not, sorry I won't be of more help
Can you please clarify? There is only 1 active bug on Fanatical Enemies SE (and I was the one who posted about it.) For some reason the mod author has not closed that bug but I was able to resolve it on my end (it was a conflict with a separate mod.)
I can see that the RotE 2016 SE has 4 unresolved bugs and has not been updated for several years, despite being more commonly used.
Which mod are you saying you would not use, Fanatical Enemies SE or RotE 2016 SE?
The main reason I'm interested in this mod's SE version is because it is required for the mod Ultimate Boss Fight Mod, which turns all of the generic bosses in the game into cool, unique enemies.