Needs update. Orichalcum ore veins do not have a color. You approach and they have the "mined up" color but you can mine it, which then does no change to the mined-up ore veins.
Also, how do I remove it? I got new Orcish stuff that doesn't use your textures, so it'll all be mismatched, and that's a crime against my eyes. But I found out that I don't even have it installed (somehow it got deep-rooted in the main file), then installed it, uninstalled it and still Orcish armor is copper-ish.
Bud, I hate to be a downer, but I made this six years ago. It's not getting an update. It's just a texture and mesh replacer though, so if you replace my files with the original versions, it will revert back to that pleasant greyish-green. However, if you're using some kind of mod loader, it might still be injecting my files into your game, and I can't troubleshoot for that. As for the ore veins, their color was changed from green to copper-brown, so they are a lot more subtle in-game. Be sure to remember those files too when you're uninstalling.
Great texturing job, and bonus kudos for doing the research.
Your mod gives a nice new copper/bronze feel to orcish arms and armor, which makes a lot of sense for a brand-new set of orichalcum gear. The only problem I see with it is that it would eventually turn green if it was to be made in real life. Copper rust is, in fact, greenish. All in all, there's a way to reconcile mediterranean myths and Skyrim lore regarding the color of orichalcum.
Most copper ores actually look like the orichalcum ore in the game. (for a sample image : http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/141591/view) The iconic green color of the Statue of Liberty is also due to the copper in its outer layer.
I always figured that the orcish smithing technique involves the application of an acidic wash and a hardened finish to the orichalcum in order to prevent further oxydation from "eating" the metal, thus giving it a rusty color (green), but great durability nonetheless.
That's a very interesting point, especially considering that the formation of oxidation on bronze, for example, actually protects the metal from further corrosion. Maybe someday I'll try a purposefully patinated look with bits of polished orichalcum showing on edges and raised surfaces. A drippy-like, natural greenish texture would look especially good...
Actually I think it doesn't look weird on Orcsies.
Let me explain: After all, and with the exception of magic and dwemer, Tamriel is a medieval place (for a few thousand years, and only the dwemer have manged to develop anything... really. I guess the availability of magic negates the need of further technological development, though it didn't stop the dwemer.... somethings wrong there... ).
I agree with chicky540, that "greenish" armor is tradition on orcs. But that doesn't need to be the main metal-material used. It could be a to the rest of the world unknown alloy, or an effect from using (unknowingly) specialized orcish magic , an unusal forge like the skyforge. It could be nearly anything, especially as it wasn't referred to as "orichalcum" armor before Skyrim, but only "orcish".
Buuuuuut, referring to the medieval part (and the atlantean ) Orichalcum is not a "mid-class"-material, it's a more expensive one. Most common in Tamriel is iron, steel, leather, chitin and bonemold, (with some additions based on kjhajiiti, argonian, akaviri and yokudan culture, but basically that's what a big deal of bad and good guys is wearing).
Orichalcum, glass (both, the volcan-glass and this mainland-glass stuff (It actually isn't the same, I looked it up), ebony, dwemer, this (high-)elvish stuff and etc is more upper-class, and stuff that more elite-units wear (ebony, glass and adamantite are the top armors, and the rarest.
(Daedric and Aedric are not tamrielic materials, it should be obvious that these are either unique "god-given" artifacts or the outcome of an opportunity so rare that it barely exists. Just think: you either need a heart of one of the most feared creatures, or you need to take it from one of such. And taking one is easier as you have only to kill one (I wonder how dremore themselves forge their armory... killing their kin seems a bit inpractical, though dremora don't really die... anyway... impractical...)
Orichalcum armors are therefor not the common Orc-army armor.
Long talk, but: the "goldish" look fits to this theme. (The "orcs are best smiths in tamriel is not about the material, but is meant to be the art of smithing is superior to all other races, this has nothing to do with materials. High quality material worked by the worst smith available will still be a bad weapon/armor/nail in the end, and it would be a waste of materials.)
Well yes, all of that, essentially! Orichalcum was supposed to be a kind of "mythic bronze", before steel was known, and so suits a relatively brutal race like the Orcs quite well as their top-of-the-line. It and the other specialized armor types are all too common in Tamriel for their status and craftsmanship, but I haven't had the courage to install an overhaul like Morrowloot yet Perhaps someone will be industrious enough to make commoner Altmer/Orismer/Yokudan/Dunmer/Bosmer/Argonian/Khajiiti armor to go with our common Nord and Imperial sets. Or so one can dream. But, do enjoy!
Glad you like the retexture even if you're not using it, that makes two of us. I really have no plans to expand this or any of my old mods, so you can consider it a one-off piece (unless I ever get around to recoloring the AMB retex...).
em... as a guy who plays orcs back since morrowind, i prefer green. BUT i really have to give you respect for doing that massive research... wow, impressive then, with the same reason you make your last conclusion (realism while playing a darkelf (you forgot casting magic )in a land full of vikings fighting dragons while shouting at them) and with mentioning that in general there is no discussion about taste, i say f real orichalcum, i simply love my green armor and homemade weapons
but really, man, you sure did your homework... nice
I downloaded this awhile back right after you posted this Mod and read the info about the armor origins and between playing with this retex esp. after reading this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum You my friend are gifted at re-texturing Fantastic job!
I love you and your sense of poetic justice. Have my children. Downloading and endorsing even though I'd normally "pfff" at other retexts.
Mostly because of the new thing you taught me today. I've always wondered where many fantasy games got the orichalcum idea from. Now I know and like the lore behind it.
It's always nice to see people who take action when a something bothers them. Nice work. And yes it looks good on a high end card. Thank you for your work and dedication.
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Also, how do I remove it? I got new Orcish stuff that doesn't use your textures, so it'll all be mismatched, and that's a crime against my eyes. But I found out that I don't even have it installed (somehow it got deep-rooted in the main file), then installed it, uninstalled it and still Orcish armor is copper-ish.
Your mod gives a nice new copper/bronze feel to orcish arms and armor, which makes a lot of sense for a brand-new set of orichalcum gear. The only problem I see with it is that it would eventually turn green if it was to be made in real life. Copper rust is, in fact, greenish. All in all, there's a way to reconcile mediterranean myths and Skyrim lore regarding the color of orichalcum.
Most copper ores actually look like the orichalcum ore in the game. (for a sample image : http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/141591/view) The iconic green color of the Statue of Liberty is also due to the copper in its outer layer.
I always figured that the orcish smithing technique involves the application of an acidic wash and a hardened finish to the orichalcum in order to prevent further oxydation from "eating" the metal, thus giving it a rusty color (green), but great durability nonetheless.
Let me explain: After all, and with the exception of magic and dwemer, Tamriel is a medieval place (for a few thousand years, and only the dwemer have manged to develop anything... really. I guess the availability of magic negates the need of further technological development, though it didn't stop the dwemer.... somethings wrong there... ).
I agree with chicky540, that "greenish" armor is tradition on orcs. But that doesn't need to be the main metal-material used. It could be a to the rest of the world unknown alloy, or an effect from using (unknowingly) specialized orcish magic , an unusal forge like the skyforge. It could be nearly anything, especially as it wasn't referred to as "orichalcum" armor before Skyrim, but only "orcish".
Buuuuuut, referring to the medieval part (and the atlantean
Orichalcum, glass (both, the volcan-glass and this mainland-glass stuff (It actually isn't the same, I looked it up), ebony, dwemer, this (high-)elvish stuff and etc is more upper-class, and stuff that more elite-units wear (ebony, glass and adamantite are the top armors, and the rarest.
(Daedric and Aedric are not tamrielic materials, it should be obvious that these are either unique "god-given" artifacts or the outcome of an opportunity so rare that it barely exists. Just think: you either need a heart of one of the most feared creatures, or you need to take it from one of such. And taking one is easier as you have only to kill one (I wonder how dremore themselves forge their armory... killing their kin seems a bit inpractical, though dremora don't really die... anyway... impractical...)
Orichalcum armors are therefor not the common Orc-army armor.
Long talk, but: the "goldish" look fits to this theme. (The "orcs are best smiths in tamriel is not about the material, but is meant to be the art of smithing is superior to all other races, this has nothing to do with materials. High quality material worked by the worst smith available will still be a bad weapon/armor/nail in the end, and it would be a waste of materials.)
- > downloaded, endorse later.
then, with the same reason you make your last conclusion (realism while playing a darkelf (you forgot casting magic
but really, man, you sure did your homework... nice
You my friend are gifted at re-texturing Fantastic job!
Mostly because of the new thing you taught me today. I've always wondered where many fantasy games got the orichalcum idea from. Now I know and like the lore behind it.