Mod creates two perks: for shield damage increase from block skill and from shield material. But adding those perks seems to not work(at least if you don't start a new game). If you feel like damage doesn't change before/after installing the mod(easier to check this on low game dificulty) then simply open command console (press "~" ingame) and type: help betterbash Press Enter In the following lines find two quest lines and see the first two numbers in there codes. (Should be something like A900B9B1 and A900B9B0) Then type next two commands, where "XX" is the first two numbers from before (A9 in my case): player.addperk XX002daf Press Enter player.addperk XX003dd7 Press Enter press "~" again to close the console. Beside this, great mod for shield users and have no alternatives AFAIK!
Simple mod that would be awesome if I could get it to work. Like others, it does nothing for me. Probably a long shot considering how old this is, but really would like an update.
Warms my heart to see that I'm not the only one who thinks bashing is a joke.
I have a couple of ideas about creating more useful and fun perks for the blocking tree. Mainly becasue the current tree is boring.
So far I've seen Perky do something with the shields (joke) and Staves of skyrim. The latter only adds staff options and effects that have little to do with shields. SkyRe probably has some shield perks too, but I haven't looked. Oh one more - Duke Patrick's archery and heavy armor combat changes shields too. I saw the wall of errors his mod produces and left it to be tried with few other mods, for later.
Have you tried any of those? thoughts?
I'll be looking over your esp in a couple of days to see if there are any goodies besides what you've documented. Gl with future versions!
OH MY GOD I WANT DOUBLE SHIELDS! also make massive shield that are as tall as you and as wide as you, like those ones that the guards by the castle in four swords not these pissy little things that they use in skyrim
Thanks for that mod. Good improvement and the stamina costs related with shield bashing in pure Skyrim where definitely too high. That was a pain especially in the early game.
However,
"Scale stamina use for bashing to block skill"
that would be very useful. That is because with higher level character, the stamina cost is ... too low in comparison to the bashing overall strength. And not only block skill should increase the stamina usage slightly but also the shield type and/or base armor (according to the formula) - that would be like a weapon base damage has influence on the stamina drain in a power attack (at least I recently noticed that currently in my game the power attack with a steel one handed axe takes 48 stamina while orcish one handed axe takes 50 stamina). So if you could adjust the stamina drain like that, it would make the game even better balanced. Probably the total stamina drain shouldn't exceed the values in basic Skyrim even with 100 block and best shields though.
I would be very gratefull for such a new version. Shouldn't be much work doing just that . Thanks in advance. I will gladly endorse then.
This mod requires 2 scripts that are not included in the file. AddISBetterBash and AddISBetterBashMaterial. If you included those maybe it would work for others also.
if the mod doesnt already do this can you, would it be possible to make the shield knock down enamys like in real life you get hit by a giant shield you'll probibly fall backwards, so would it be possible to do that in a mod?
@mrtoulouse sry for the replies sorry i haven`t checked in for a while, as for bashing it still doesn`t work it does 0 damage i wonder would DspSoB be creating this problem?! since duel-combat realismis working for you!
EDIT: some stats(other nord): lvl 15, block 36(shield wall rank2 and powerbash), my lydia has 168 health a power bash and she has 167.79 health(no motter how many times i bash her) then i added deadly bash by console 1 bash and health is down to 166.94, all in all i have come to one conclusion my default bash is broken(all mods of and it does damage close to 0) any way i can fix it by console?(a setav type command mabye?)
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help betterbash
Press Enter
In the following lines find two quest lines and see the first two numbers in there codes. (Should be something like A900B9B1 and A900B9B0)
Then type next two commands, where "XX" is the first two numbers from before (A9 in my case):
player.addperk XX002daf
Press Enter
player.addperk XX003dd7
Press Enter
press "~" again to close the console.
Beside this, great mod for shield users and have no alternatives AFAIK!
I have a couple of ideas about creating more useful and fun perks for the blocking tree.
Mainly becasue the current tree is boring.
So far I've seen Perky do something with the shields (joke) and Staves of skyrim. The latter only adds staff options and effects that have little to do with shields. SkyRe probably has some shield perks too, but I haven't looked. Oh one more - Duke Patrick's archery and heavy armor combat changes shields too. I saw the wall of errors his mod produces and left it to be tried with few other mods, for later.
Have you tried any of those? thoughts?
I'll be looking over your esp in a couple of days to see if there are any goodies besides what you've documented. Gl with future versions!
also make massive shield that are as tall as you and as wide as you, like those ones that the guards by the castle in four swords not these pissy little things that they use in skyrim
However,
"Scale stamina use for bashing to block skill"
that would be very useful. That is because with higher level character, the stamina cost is ... too low in comparison to the bashing overall strength. And not only block skill should increase the stamina usage slightly but also the shield type and/or base armor (according to the formula) - that would be like a weapon base damage has influence on the stamina drain in a power attack (at least I recently noticed that currently in my game the power attack with a steel one handed axe takes 48 stamina while orcish one handed axe takes 50 stamina). So if you could adjust the stamina drain like that, it would make the game even better balanced. Probably the total stamina drain shouldn't exceed the values in basic Skyrim even with 100 block and best shields though.
I would be very gratefull for such a new version. Shouldn't be much work doing just that
EDIT: some stats(other nord): lvl 15, block 36(shield wall rank2 and powerbash), my lydia has 168 health a power bash and she has 167.79 health(no motter how many times i bash her) then i added deadly bash by console 1 bash and health is down to 166.94, all in all i have come to one conclusion my default bash is broken(all mods of and it does damage close to 0) any way i can fix it by console?(a setav type command mabye?)