- Added missing textures that Embers HD requires in order for the LE conversion of Inferno to work with eh LE version of Embers HD. Thanks to namtar55 for picking that up. - Added recommendations in FOMOD.
Version 4.2 - 03/03/2021:
- Re-formatted ESP to suit LE better - Fixed incorrect file structure causing missing textures
For reference to those who are confused as to what combination of the FOMOD is the best: (and what the difference between Ultimate HD Fire Effects is)
After hours of testing, I came to the conclusion that Normal Brightness --> Freesia --> UHD Tiles --> 2x Area is the best, and gives the most realism.
First: The Difference between UHDFE and Inferno:
Inferno is technically the spiritual successor of UHDFE. And it subtly shows (personally it took me a while to notice). The flames are more...rich and full, and Inferno's makes UHDFE's look a bit fake when comparing the two.
Second: Brightness
Me picking normal brightness is purely preference. The brighter option is more realistic (obviously you can't stare at a light source that intense) since fire should be blinding, but you cannot see the subtleties of the fire (the wisps and such). The Normal Brightness is a good in-between of realistic (it still is honestly bright), and UHDFE, which is once again, a bit thin and not as rich as Inferno's.
Third: Color
This was the only part in the FOMOD that the original Mod Author gave a recommendation toward. And I agree--. Simple as that.
Fourth: Tiles
I couldn't find a difference regarding the spells, but saw a difference in the fireplace--the UHDFE flames were more akin to random shoots of where the flame would go (more realistic), while the new tiles that Inferno offers are more linear, like the afterburner exhaust of a Need for Speed car, if that makes sense.
Fifth: Area
Normal 1x area when using the Flames spell isn't as realistic--if you think about a flamethrower, the flames go linearly, but billow and spill out at the end. 4x area is too big, and 2x gives that effect of realism. (Note that the area does not affect the spell's area of effect.) --
I thanked you in person, but I might as well thank you again--thanks for porting this, Carrumbum--saved a lot of people the pain of backporting individually.
Hello Carrumbum Started a new game, went to riften to pick up inigo, went there at night, and having a weird thing with torches I don't know how to attempt a fix, or what mod might be causing, it, tried re installing the mod and choosing different things, even chose the optional mesh choice at the end didn't make any difference ... Holding a torch is fine, but wall torches have this weird blue ish smoke that didn't seem, right to me ... took a screenshot
I had an issue with fireplaces, and since this is a port from SE, i went there to take a peek. As it turns out, embers hd SE gained one texture and different texture paths from its LE counterpart. So when you install the patch that comes with this mod, this will happen:
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When i install the SE textures (which luckily are not compressed in BC7 so anyone can do it easily), the fires show as they should.
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The author of inferno editing LE meshes to fix the issue probably won't happen, so probably asking permission to include the embers hd se textures with this mod is more feasible.
If not, it's either a disclaimer informing the players about downloading and using the correct textures, or removing the patch from the package, since le fireplaces will bug out.
I am unable to recreate this issue.Do you have the MFG Console installed so you could potentially give me some more information by clicking on the firepit itself and send a screenshot?
Also, do you have any other fireplaces/fire mods installed like KD Fireplaces or anything?
I see now that i've made a mistake on my end. Please, disregard the first screenshot, i uninstalled the mod and then took the picture (doh). And the extra files are from EHDFireplacesFX, which aparently is not the one used to make the patch for this mod. The mxash.dds and its normal are only files needed.
there's a purple texture around campfires, anyone knows what might cause this? I let Inferno overwrite emberHD, didnt have this problem when i use ultimate HD fire texture + emberhd compatibility patch tho
Hello , I seem to be having an issue, I've not long started a new game,. and start always in realm or lorkhan , so didn't notice this issue there, ... When I spotted this mod, I thought it looked nice , but after installing and popping thru to riverwood, I have absolutely No Lanterns or lamposts with lanterns showing anywhere on such outside of cities , then only thing I see are sign posts and braziers ?? I use darker nights mod, better torches , candles and lanterns mod and that's it , I don't think its this mod, I installed with mo2, I chose, normal- firese, 2s, new , as for patches - none , didn't need them... But when night time fell it was almost pitch black, use very dak setting from dark nights mod, ... I have no idea why All my lantern lamp post are missing .... I updated with your latest, but no change for me Migh troubleshoot, with a new dummy start minus any of those mods n see whats what
This mod should not remove anything from the game, it only changes the fire textures. Your lanterns and lamposts should still be there, maybe you selected the fireplace patch when installing or there is a patch there you may of needed.
Give it some troubleshooting or even yet, uninstall Inferno and see if it goes back to normal.
Thanks I completely forgot about adding load order to spoiler tags, I installed LoS mod lanterns of skyrim, which put lamp post back on the path for me, I did uninstall this , with no change I really really don't know why they're all missing, I disabled all my mods in mo2 and did a test with just skyrim and dlc's and still no vanilla lamp post along pathways....
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# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. +Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One +Rounded Lanterns +Lanterns and Candles +Twister - Ancient Orcish Bow +Doomshard Bow +College Visitor Pass +All-Rounder Categorized Favorites Menu Preset +Categorized Favorites Menu +Magically mine +Simply Better Torches +Simply Darker Nights +Nordic Beds +Player Voicesets +Bellyaches Animal and Creature Pack +Realm of Lorkhan - Freeform Alternate Start - LE +Apachii Divine Elegance Store +Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE- +ApachiiSkyHair +AddItemMenu - Ultimate Mod Explorer +The Paarthurnax Dilemma +The Choice is Yours - Fewer Forced Quests - Improved Dialogue Options +Imperious - Races of Skyrim +Sneak Tools +Dawnguard and Clan Volkihar Epilogues +RaceMenu +Skyrim Companions No Werewolf Option +A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads +Ecotone Simple Portable Storage - ESP +Teldryn Serious - A Teldryn Sero Backstory Quest +Destroy the Entire Dark Brotherhood (Kill Cicero and Babette) +Not So Fast - Main Quest +Markarth - Help the Warrens and A Cure for Cairine +Blood and Silver - Cidhna Mine Expanded +Sit Anywhere +Nordic Cooking +More plants and recipes for Hearthfire including Dawnguard and Dragonborn plants +Thunderchild - Epic Shouts and Immersion +Skyrim Realistic Conquering for Fort Takeovers +Fort Takeovers Framework +Riften Market merchant for Brynjolf's vacant stall +Better Vampire NPCs 1.9 +Mjoll the Lioness new face and make up -Delphine go away (SSE Eng and Rus Versions) +Lock o Motion +UIExtensions +Mfg Console +OneTweak +Higher Jumping +GTFO My Room +Go to bed +PC Head Tracking and Voice Type +Sleep Tight +KS Hairdos - Renewal +Skald's Mail - A Courier Alternative +They Took Our Jobs +Orc Eyes Alternate +Hale - Iridum Eyes +Glorious Fort Dawnguard +Enhanced Skyrim Factions - The Companions Guild +Jaxonz Blink Teleport -Kill the Blades +Beards of Power - LE +Dragon Age Dalish Vallaslin Face Tattoo's for Racemenu +Dynamic Auto Sorting System +Lind's Elven Eyes +Dead NPC Body Cleaner Remover +VioLens - A Killmove Mod +Jaxonz Positioner +Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch +No NPC Greetings +Carriage and Ferry Travel Overhaul (Formerly Complete Fast Travel Overhaul) +A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget +Spouses Can Live Everywhere +My Home is Your Home (MHiYH 2plus) +Dawnguard Delayed Start +Draw - A Dueling Mod +Pierced Ears - Earrings +Magical Alchemy Harvest-o-tron +Cloaks and Capes +Hunters Not Bandits +KenMOD - Lockpick Pro - Cheat +Hunter Archer Armor +Armor Of Intrigue +SkyUI +Craftable Horse Barding +Immersive Horses +Leaf Rest +Breezehome FullyUpgradable +Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim *DLC: Dawnguard *DLC: Dragonborn *DLC: HearthFires
Don't know why mo2 copies my list like this, dlcs are actually at the top o.o
skyrim le has needed an new flame tex mod for years. both le fire mods that are popular have an issue with black lines around fire. this can be made near or totally invisible by lowering AA but i dont play with jaggies. Does this have that issue i wonder, being a backported mod? tracked for sure
I personally have not noticed the black lines, I'd love to see some examples!
I've made the change to Inferno for good now. I recommend having the flame X 2 bigger when installing, gives great immersion. Also don't use the brighter option especially if you have an ENB or a mod that effects the light of fire.
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Version 4.3 - 04/03/2021:
- Added missing textures that Embers HD requires in order for the LE conversion of Inferno to work with eh LE version of Embers HD. Thanks to namtar55 for picking that up.
- Added recommendations in FOMOD.
Version 4.2 - 03/03/2021:
- Re-formatted ESP to suit LE better
- Fixed incorrect file structure causing missing textures
After hours of testing, I came to the conclusion that Normal Brightness --> Freesia --> UHD Tiles --> 2x Area is the best, and gives the most realism.
First: The Difference between UHDFE and Inferno:
Inferno is technically the spiritual successor of UHDFE. And it subtly shows (personally it took me a while to notice). The flames are more...rich and full, and Inferno's makes UHDFE's look a bit fake when comparing the two.
Second: Brightness
Me picking normal brightness is purely preference. The brighter option is more realistic (obviously you can't stare at a light source that intense) since fire should be blinding, but you cannot see the subtleties of the fire (the wisps and such).
The Normal Brightness is a good in-between of realistic (it still is honestly bright), and UHDFE, which is once again, a bit thin and not as rich as Inferno's.
Third: Color
This was the only part in the FOMOD that the original Mod Author gave a recommendation toward. And I agree--. Simple as that.
Fourth: Tiles
I couldn't find a difference regarding the spells, but saw a difference in the fireplace--the UHDFE flames were more akin to random shoots of where the flame would go (more realistic), while the new tiles that Inferno offers are more linear, like the afterburner exhaust of a Need for Speed car, if that makes sense.
Fifth: Area
Normal 1x area when using the Flames spell isn't as realistic--if you think about a flamethrower, the flames go linearly, but billow and spill out at the end. 4x area is too big, and 2x gives that effect of realism.
(Note that the area does not affect the spell's area of effect.)
--
I thanked you in person, but I might as well thank you again--thanks for porting this, Carrumbum--saved a lot of people the pain of backporting individually.
Started a new game, went to riften to pick up inigo, went there at night, and having a weird thing with torches I don't know how to attempt a fix, or what mod might be causing, it, tried re installing the mod and choosing different things, even chose the optional mesh choice at the end didn't make any difference ...
Holding a torch is fine, but wall torches have this weird blue ish smoke that didn't seem, right to me ... took a screenshot
I had an issue with fireplaces, and since this is a port from SE, i went there to take a peek. As it turns out, embers hd SE gained one texture and different texture paths from its LE counterpart. So when you install the patch that comes with this mod, this will happen:
When i install the SE textures (which luckily are not compressed in BC7 so anyone can do it easily), the fires show as they should.
The author of inferno editing LE meshes to fix the issue probably won't happen, so probably asking permission to include the embers hd se textures with this mod is more feasible.
If not, it's either a disclaimer informing the players about downloading and using the correct textures, or removing the patch from the package, since le fireplaces will bug out.
Also, do you have any other fireplaces/fire mods installed like KD Fireplaces or anything?
Edit: if anyone has this issue in the future, I fixed it by going into the Meshes>>Effects folder of the mod, and deleting fxfirewithemberslogs01.nif
Hope this helps someone!
does the fire that clings to objects after impact,
cast light while it's active?
I seem to be having an issue, I've not long started a new game,. and start always in realm or lorkhan , so didn't notice this issue there, ...
When I spotted this mod, I thought it looked nice , but after installing and popping thru to riverwood, I have absolutely No Lanterns or lamposts with lanterns showing anywhere on such outside of cities , then only thing I see are sign posts and braziers ??
I use darker nights mod, better torches , candles and lanterns mod and that's it , I don't think its this mod, I installed with mo2, I chose, normal- firese, 2s, new , as for patches - none , didn't need them...
But when night time fell it was almost pitch black, use very dak setting from dark nights mod, ...
I have no idea why All my lantern lamp post are missing .... I updated with your latest, but no change for me
Migh troubleshoot, with a new dummy start minus any of those mods n see whats what
This mod should not remove anything from the game, it only changes the fire textures. Your lanterns and lamposts should still be there, maybe you selected the fireplace patch when installing or there is a patch there you may of needed.
Give it some troubleshooting or even yet, uninstall Inferno and see if it goes back to normal.
Perhaps I could see your load order?
+Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One
+Rounded Lanterns
+Lanterns and Candles
+Twister - Ancient Orcish Bow
+Doomshard Bow
+College Visitor Pass
+All-Rounder Categorized Favorites Menu Preset
+Categorized Favorites Menu
+Magically mine
+Simply Better Torches
+Simply Darker Nights
+Nordic Beds
+Player Voicesets
+Bellyaches Animal and Creature Pack
+Realm of Lorkhan - Freeform Alternate Start - LE
+Apachii Divine Elegance Store
+Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-
+ApachiiSkyHair
+AddItemMenu - Ultimate Mod Explorer
+The Paarthurnax Dilemma
+The Choice is Yours - Fewer Forced Quests - Improved Dialogue Options
+Imperious - Races of Skyrim
+Sneak Tools
+Dawnguard and Clan Volkihar Epilogues
+RaceMenu
+Skyrim Companions No Werewolf Option
+A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads
+Ecotone Simple Portable Storage - ESP
+Teldryn Serious - A Teldryn Sero Backstory Quest
+Destroy the Entire Dark Brotherhood (Kill Cicero and Babette)
+Not So Fast - Main Quest
+Markarth - Help the Warrens and A Cure for Cairine
+Blood and Silver - Cidhna Mine Expanded
+Sit Anywhere
+Nordic Cooking
+More plants and recipes for Hearthfire including Dawnguard and Dragonborn plants
+Thunderchild - Epic Shouts and Immersion
+Skyrim Realistic Conquering for Fort Takeovers
+Fort Takeovers Framework
+Riften Market merchant for Brynjolf's vacant stall
+Better Vampire NPCs 1.9
+Mjoll the Lioness new face and make up
-Delphine go away (SSE Eng and Rus Versions)
+Lock o Motion
+UIExtensions
+Mfg Console
+OneTweak
+Higher Jumping
+GTFO My Room
+Go to bed
+PC Head Tracking and Voice Type
+Sleep Tight
+KS Hairdos - Renewal
+Skald's Mail - A Courier Alternative
+They Took Our Jobs
+Orc Eyes Alternate
+Hale - Iridum Eyes
+Glorious Fort Dawnguard
+Enhanced Skyrim Factions - The Companions Guild
+Jaxonz Blink Teleport
-Kill the Blades
+Beards of Power - LE
+Dragon Age Dalish Vallaslin Face Tattoo's for Racemenu
+Dynamic Auto Sorting System
+Lind's Elven Eyes
+Dead NPC Body Cleaner Remover
+VioLens - A Killmove Mod
+Jaxonz Positioner
+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
+No NPC Greetings
+Carriage and Ferry Travel Overhaul (Formerly Complete Fast Travel Overhaul)
+A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget
+Spouses Can Live Everywhere
+My Home is Your Home (MHiYH 2plus)
+Dawnguard Delayed Start
+Draw - A Dueling Mod
+Pierced Ears - Earrings
+Magical Alchemy Harvest-o-tron
+Cloaks and Capes
+Hunters Not Bandits
+KenMOD - Lockpick Pro - Cheat
+Hunter Archer Armor
+Armor Of Intrigue
+SkyUI
+Craftable Horse Barding
+Immersive Horses
+Leaf Rest
+Breezehome FullyUpgradable
+Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim
*DLC: Dawnguard
*DLC: Dragonborn
*DLC: HearthFires
Don't know why mo2 copies my list like this, dlcs are actually at the top o.o
I've made the change to Inferno for good now. I recommend having the flame X 2 bigger when installing, gives great immersion. Also don't use the brighter option especially if you have an ENB or a mod that effects the light of fire.
I'll upload some comparison images soon!
You could also try it both ways and see what it looks like I suppose :-p