Important: There's currently an issue where if a Survivor tries to escape the match prematurely through cheats the table will detect all the Survivors as cheaters due to how the netcode works. To deal with this properly for the time being Masterminds are advised to only keep the first player blocked out of the Survivors after the match ends (it'll say all Survivors have left the game). To clear out the innocent Survivors reset the value of the subsequent profiles back to "Empty" at "New Cheater Account List (notify when not Empty)" of the Shared Section of Eraz3r, keeping only the first value untouched each time. A reminder that to move these new blocks to Blocker as well "Manually Add New Cheater Account (from Eraz3r detection)" has to be used at "Extra". These values can be noted by the user to input by themselves in following game sessions, it's recommended to report them to me as well so they can be investigated and added to future block lists. A fix for this hasn't been implemented yet due to lack of time and circumstances to research the game code to apply it properly, it'll come when the time is right to do the appropriate testing. An initial fix was made but it had some issues. Block list updates require less effort and can be done more regularly, but only after sufficient evidence is presented.
Version 3.15 fixed a couple of issues that were tagging innocent players as cheaters in Eraz3r.
Version 3.10 sorted an error that prevented proper listing of newly detected cheater accounts in Eraz3r. This also prevented listing the "Trigger". If a new cheater has been detected please share the Trigger and New Cheater Account from "Detect New Cheater Section (ON/OFF based on Mode)".
There remains a small possibility of innocent players being tagged as cheaters and this information would help at keeping those at a minimum. Similarly, this information could help with adding confirmed cheater accounts to permanent future block lists (the automatic Eraz3r additions last for the running session only).
The version 3.00 will help Survivors waste less time in Lobbies hosted by Blocked Players and bots, however the 4/5 issue will most likely persist. Let me know if some matches are eventually found thanks to this. Further improvements are still under investigation.
No offense, but I think the table becomes useless.Because even if you add them to the block list, they always come back with a new smurf (Lv0 Private) account.I don't want to say that every smurf is a cheating account, but what I have seen/witnessed shows that at least 80% of them are cheating.Others play masterfully both as a survivor or mastermind despite being in the lv 20/40 band.so you see, because of the situation this table won't stop the cheaters, maybe it even makes them more ambitious
This is true for those that do it, but it doesn't apply to every player. A good amount of players stick to the same accounts. For those that don't the autodetect feature was made for them, despite being a bit limited.
If you encounter cheaters that aren't blocked you can share the evidence with me, but note that addition to the block list will only be done if the cheating is confirmed beyond a reasonable doubt. As you noted just because they are smurfing doesn't necessarily mean they are cheating. If the table detects something it's very likely that they are doing something suspicious.
I think I have been tagged as a cheater, because there are some players I don't encounter within the game anymore. I'm assuming they're using this table. I am not a cheater and I don't cheat. Is there any way to solve this? Finding matches is difficult enough with the low player count as it is, without having a cheater tag on me.
If you were tagged without being in the block list the tag will only last for the current game session (if the user reverts the value back to Empty then the tag will of course be gone even sooner). If the player noted the value and adds you anew at each game session then you may be permanently blocked by that user. I think such a scenario is rare but it could be possible, I can force a reset of the values required at a table update to prevent such continuous blocks, I suppose it may be necessary due to the potential innocent player detections that are happening.
If you are in the block list then you are being permanently blocked as long as the relevant Extra Option is turned on (cheater category or problematic category). If you think you are on a block list you can send me your profile, privately if you prefer, and I'll see if that's the case.
Hi, The table found 4 new cheaters today and one of them was so obvious with self reviving. i also suspected 3 players in my matches and bingo when i looked at the table after the matches table already found 3 more new cheaters..i uploaded the table screenshot here4-New-Cheaters hosted at ImgBB — ImgBB (ibb.co) i dont know how to manually adding new cheaters to the table so i uploaded picture for you.
The self reviving one came out from the chest at a1 with gatling gun + shotgun + infinite herbs as samuel no jan in the team.The guy also auto-escaped at the end his profile => https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198802129480/
Thank you for the detailed information! What version of the Table are you using? Video proof would also be most appreciated for such cheater occurrences if possible.
There appears to be another bug associated with new cheater account detections. If someone tries to escape the match when it shouldn't be possible the script will falsely accuse all the Survivors of doing the same thing, instead of just the culprit. This occurs due to the game's p2p netcode, every Survivor relays the same information to the Mastermind that someone is escaping. I'll try to resolve this as soon as possible. In most if not all cases the actual culprit will probably be the first one on the list.
With that said, it looks like the only cheater amongst those detections is the first one, they will be added to the list. For the time being you can manually add them to the list by reenacting the screenshot you provided, writing the same numbers to the "New Cheater Account List" at each game session (only add the first one, the other 3 are most likely innocent). I recommend if this happens again and you have multiple detections to remove the innocent players by changing their values back to "Empty", only keeping the first one unchanged each time.
Your report has been very helpful, if this occurs again don't hesitate to contact me and stay tuned for the next update.
a small request : is it possible unlocking all cosmetics and adding it to the table in the next update? it seems too difficult to unlock cosmetics while the game state is dead and lots of cheaters/toxic players. maybe it will make new players stay in the game longer despite those cheaters/toxic players.
another problematic thing is unlocking all equipments, this also needs playing more than 100hrs with both sides MM/Survivor. in a dead game with almost all matches with too much lag/dc and high lvl toxic players, this also looks an impossible job to finish and i`m pretty sure %90 new players vanish/delete from/this game after facing this kind of bad situations.
I've decided not to give such options as it'd essentially be an unfair reward which I've said the table would never do (final note at the bottom of the description). A script that boosts Survivors and Masterminds to Rank 20 might be considered but I've decided not to provide that either, for the same reasons. However, since it'd only be limited to Rank 20 it'd only give new players an easier time to get up to speed with unlocking their skills and getting a good amount of RP to buy most of the Equipment Chests. May return to this topic, but for the time being I've decided not to include this.
yes, if the game was a new game I would think the same way, but it's been 4 years and we're talking about a game that is dead, full of cheaters, the total number of players cannot exceed 40 and abandoned by the developers.From this point of view, we might think that this is NOT unfair at all.
There is a cheater with name "Catobleplass" spamming special cards effects such as blind effect/grenade launcher/ivies etc he has also inf mrx/nemesis/birkin time + inf bio energy of course and can use other hacks such as one shooting survivors with guns/zombies, can you add him to the block list? i can send you a video with him cheating if you need it as a proof.
His steam profile: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198019686304
i remember this guy "Catoblepass" from the past. he also revealed some players cheating in the past. long story in short what this guy claims he only cheats against cheaters. i also played with/against this guy recently and i didn't see any cheating unless another cheater in the team "LOVEALL" and "Resistance2.0" but he always attacked the cheaters and let others do the jobs like in the past. if this guy cheats, then he believes there is at least one cheater in the team. This is his YT Channel. TheCatoblepass - YouTube
He is a cheater, playing recently and cheating against us, when we dont cheat at all, even people claimed he cheats vs new players as mm, he is just a sore loser and should be added to the block list, i already showed two videos with proof to TBJ with him cheating.
Because insta killing with nemesis scream is not normal at all.
Idk i won 3 times against this guy with a normal team and one of the match he was also nicolai and he didnt cheat at all but as i said before, in two matches there were cheaters "resistance2.0" and "loveall" where this guy cheated aggresively against them and only attacked the cheaters not me or the other guy so we did the jobs and escaped. he has his own way of dealing with cheaters with cheating
New content is currently on hold as there isn't a big need for it at present time.
There were minor custom additions in mind (more customization, such as Menu and Lobbies) but they are low priority, they may still come at some point. Anti-Cheat improvements require time and dedication with testing and the current scripts are good enough to handle most cases. There was one improvement that may come eventually but it is on hold for now, it'd only be needed for countering persistent bot attempts if it were to work as intended. Noting that things such as adding new cheater accounts to block lists will still be done, if there's sufficient evidence against them.
That's the state of things as of now. There will also probably be another Resistance update coming at some point which will require a Table update as well.
Hello, can you describe in more detail how to add a player to the black list, or to the list of cheaters? I tried to write a lot of things into a line, but the table gives an error.
Not much I can do about that except for adding immobile Survivors and potential teleportation tools for them. This deviates from the table's purpose and is probably not what you requested, probably won't be added.
Hey! Good work on your table. I've been loving the Practice mode features.
I'm bumping this suggestion. Right now there are very limited means to manually manipulate RP and exp gains, as most tables or trainers are obsolete and outdated. Which means the only way to actually earn Exp, RP and levels is to play the game... With its problematic and long matchmaking. Got stuck at 4/5 for a good 30 min before I gave up :(
I think that adding immobile survivors in Custom games as an option could at least allow some form of small alternative farm for currencies. Or just activating RP/Exp gains in practice modes.
Unless you have a better mean to address the exp and RP issue?
Yes but don't Custom Games require other players/friends to launch? Or is there a feature I'm not aware that allows solo play in Custom games akin to Practice Mode?
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Important: There's currently an issue where if a Survivor tries to escape the match prematurely through cheats the table will detect all the Survivors as cheaters due to how the netcode works. To deal with this properly for the time being Masterminds are advised to only keep the first player blocked out of the Survivors after the match ends (it'll say all Survivors have left the game). To clear out the innocent Survivors reset the value of the subsequent profiles back to "Empty" at "New Cheater Account List (notify when not Empty)" of the Shared Section of Eraz3r, keeping only the first value untouched each time. A reminder that to move these new blocks to Blocker as well "Manually Add New Cheater Account (from Eraz3r detection)" has to be used at "Extra". These values can be noted by the user to input by themselves in following game sessions, it's recommended to report them to me as well so they can be investigated and added to future block lists.
A fix for this hasn't been implemented yet due to lack of time and circumstances to research the game code to apply it properly, it'll come when the time is right to do the appropriate testing. An initial fix was made but it had some issues. Block list updates require less effort and can be done more regularly, but only after sufficient evidence is presented.
Version 3.15 fixed a couple of issues that were tagging innocent players as cheaters in Eraz3r.
Version 3.10 sorted an error that prevented proper listing of newly detected cheater accounts in Eraz3r. This also prevented listing the "Trigger". If a new cheater has been detected please share the Trigger and New Cheater Account from "Detect New Cheater Section (ON/OFF based on Mode)".
There remains a small possibility of innocent players being tagged as cheaters and this information would help at keeping those at a minimum. Similarly, this information could help with adding confirmed cheater accounts to permanent future block lists (the automatic Eraz3r additions last for the running session only).
If you encounter cheaters that aren't blocked you can share the evidence with me, but note that addition to the block list will only be done if the cheating is confirmed beyond a reasonable doubt. As you noted just because they are smurfing doesn't necessarily mean they are cheating. If the table detects something it's very likely that they are doing something suspicious.
Is there any way to solve this? Finding matches is difficult enough with the low player count as it is, without having a cheater tag on me.
If you are in the block list then you are being permanently blocked as long as the relevant Extra Option is turned on (cheater category or problematic category). If you think you are on a block list you can send me your profile, privately if you prefer, and I'll see if that's the case.
The self reviving one came out from the chest at a1 with gatling gun + shotgun + infinite herbs as samuel no jan in the team.The guy also auto-escaped at the end
his profile => https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198802129480/
Video proof would also be most appreciated for such cheater occurrences if possible.
With that said, it looks like the only cheater amongst those detections is the first one, they will be added to the list. For the time being you can manually add them to the list by reenacting the screenshot you provided, writing the same numbers to the "New Cheater Account List" at each game session (only add the first one, the other 3 are most likely innocent). I recommend if this happens again and you have multiple detections to remove the innocent players by changing their values back to "Empty", only keeping the first one unchanged each time.
Your report has been very helpful, if this occurs again don't hesitate to contact me and stay tuned for the next update.
another problematic thing is unlocking all equipments, this also needs playing more than 100hrs with both sides MM/Survivor. in a dead game with almost all matches with too much lag/dc and high lvl toxic players, this also looks an impossible job to finish and i`m pretty sure %90 new players vanish/delete from/this game after facing this kind of bad situations.
A script that boosts Survivors and Masterminds to Rank 20 might be considered but I've decided not to provide that either, for the same reasons. However, since it'd only be limited to Rank 20 it'd only give new players an easier time to get up to speed with unlocking their skills and getting a good amount of RP to buy most of the Equipment Chests. May return to this topic, but for the time being I've decided not to include this.
His steam profile: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198019686304
Because insta killing with nemesis scream is not normal at all.
There were minor custom additions in mind (more customization, such as Menu and Lobbies) but they are low priority, they may still come at some point. Anti-Cheat improvements require time and dedication with testing and the current scripts are good enough to handle most cases. There was one improvement that may come eventually but it is on hold for now, it'd only be needed for countering persistent bot attempts if it were to work as intended. Noting that things such as adding new cheater accounts to block lists will still be done, if there's sufficient evidence against them.
That's the state of things as of now. There will also probably be another Resistance update coming at some point which will require a Table update as well.
I'm bumping this suggestion. Right now there are very limited means to manually manipulate RP and exp gains, as most tables or trainers are obsolete and outdated. Which means the only way to actually earn Exp, RP and levels is to play the game... With its problematic and long matchmaking. Got stuck at 4/5 for a good 30 min before I gave up :(
I think that adding immobile survivors in Custom games as an option could at least allow some form of small alternative farm for currencies. Or just activating RP/Exp gains in practice modes.
Unless you have a better mean to address the exp and RP issue?
Cheers :)