Nice arrangement. I ended up just using your Deceiver's Finery as a replacer for the Black & Burgundy Outfit as I was having clipping issues with it and EVE. Matches the style nicely.
The issue I was having with EVE's HGEC Wide/LL option. Some clothes had issues in sneak/crouch and some NPCs had issues just standing. I still had them after reinstalling just EVE on its own without other replacers. Possibly something just went terribly wrong with Wrye Bash (in which case I suspect the issue occurred with junkacc11's Seamless) that can be solved with a complete reinstall but that's more effort than it's worth. So since then I've been looking for clothes items like yours to patch the holes I've been encountering.
Wide/LL body type? Oh, I don't use that. So I don't know what kind of clipping issues or other things that one runs into. Sorry I cannot help you get the standard black and burgundy dress working :'(
No worries! You don't owe me anything, and I appreciate it. I've been a fan of your work for a bit (I've endorsed 3 or 4 in the past 2 weeks I'm pretty sure), I just wasn't expecting to use this one in this way. Maybe other people with problems with EVE will see these posts and also find it useful for that reason.
Can you go into more detail about what the clipping issues were with the black and burgundy dress? When the characters crouched, did their chest come through the front of the shirt? Did their legs cut through the dress?
The back and parts of the sides of the legs clipped through the dress even while just standing. Like the dress mesh was built for narrower hips than the model actually has. The black & burgundy dress isn't the only one affected this way. The blue & green outfit and blue velvet outfit are too, along with a few others. I've patched them by using replacers from a mixture of sources: you, yuravica, Luna's healer robes, etc.
I should correct myself: much of EVE's base is overwritten by this. So if there are problems it's from that. It may be built on a narrower lower torso. But I don't recall having problems until something caused me to try reinstalling/annealing EVE itself a while back. Might have to do some testing today.
If you have legs/hips/ect clipping through those dresses, there are only two reasons why:
1. the dress model has leg models underneath it 2. you have a plugin that is changing those dresses to no longer use the leg slot.
It is most likely the first reason.
Those dress models should NOT come with naked leg models underneath them, as the dress completely covers the character's body from the ankles up. Since the player will never see the legs, there is no reason to include naked legs under the dress in the mesh file. At MOST there should only be ankles under the dress. Nothing else. If anything more is there than just the ankles (and you don't even really need those for these dresses), the meshes were made improperly. Even if you are using a different body shape from the one that those dresses are designed for, your legs/hips will not clip through them unless one of my previously listed points is true. If these dress meshes files include leg models in them, they were made improperly. This can be easily fixed, however. If you have nifskope, you can open the mesh files in up in nifskope, click on the legs (this is assuming that the legs are considered a separate model from any naked arms/neck models attached to the dress), then delete the legs. If you have blender, you can open the mesh files in blender and delete their legs there.
If, for some weird reason, you have a plugin that is changing those dresses to no longer use the leg slot, then you need to remove that plugin or edit it to revert those changes. If a dress doesn't take up the leg slots, then the characters naked legs will always be present while wearing the dress, instead of becoming invisible when they put it on.
Hmmmmmmmm, interesting. Yeah, I just opened up the .nifs. Thank you for the info! This explains a lot. I think. It's weird that it appeared seemingly randomly. Perhaps I changed a setting in some random mod with realizing the implications. I'll go through and disable the suspects.
A well made dress model will have no naked legs underneath it. The black and burgundy, blue velvet, ect, dresses from Vanilla Gear Redux do not have any legs at all underneath them. I highly doubt that you have a plugin that changes those dresses to no longer take up the leg slot, but it could be possible. However, its most likely that the dress models have naked legs under them. Take the camera through the models in nifskope and see if they are there.
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What kind of clipping issues?
Perhaps give the black and burgundy dress from Vanilla Gear Redux a try.
1. the dress model has leg models underneath it
2. you have a plugin that is changing those dresses to no longer use the leg slot.
It is most likely the first reason.
Those dress models should NOT come with naked leg models underneath them, as the dress completely covers the character's body from the ankles up. Since the player will never see the legs, there is no reason to include naked legs under the dress in the mesh file. At MOST there should only be ankles under the dress. Nothing else. If anything more is there than just the ankles (and you don't even really need those for these dresses), the meshes were made improperly.
Even if you are using a different body shape from the one that those dresses are designed for, your legs/hips will not clip through them unless one of my previously listed points is true.
If these dress meshes files include leg models in them, they were made improperly. This can be easily fixed, however. If you have nifskope, you can open the mesh files in up in nifskope, click on the legs (this is assuming that the legs are considered a separate model from any naked arms/neck models attached to the dress), then delete the legs. If you have blender, you can open the mesh files in blender and delete their legs there.
If, for some weird reason, you have a plugin that is changing those dresses to no longer use the leg slot, then you need to remove that plugin or edit it to revert those changes. If a dress doesn't take up the leg slots, then the characters naked legs will always be present while wearing the dress, instead of becoming invisible when they put it on.
Thanks a lot!
I highly doubt that you have a plugin that changes those dresses to no longer take up the leg slot, but it could be possible.
However, its most likely that the dress models have naked legs under them. Take the camera through the models in nifskope and see if they are there.