I wanted to make it possible for people to suggest stuff to be included in the mod just in case I ever get around to updating this mod again.
It can be a chapter from a book that's in the public domain, or something Fallout related that you have written (pre-war history book, NCR novel, etc.)
I would recommend keeping the submission to length of a chapter. Nothing too long as long books are performance heavy.
If you are submitting something you have not written, you will need to make sure it is in the public domain to avoid any issues with copyright. As a rule of thumb, anything published before 1927 is in the public domain. I also recommend looking at Project Gutenberg for a collection of public domain works.
You can use this Google Form to submit your suggestion.
this is a great mod but it's a bit bizarre that most of what's here could be considered conservative canon - which is fine! - but surely in a post-nuclear world following an anti-communist america, there should be a few copies of say, das kapital, old mate's manifesto, even the bread book or a few stalinist/maoist polemics, just for flavour. i mean i'm sure the followers alone justify some bakunin in to be found in the old mormon fort
Those works would be extremly hard to come by due to a variety of factors, they would have been no doubt been banned for decades before the great war and post war propagation would be futher harmed by groups such as the Brotherhood and NCR wich are very much charactarized by pre war nostalgia, hell even wastelanders would be unlikely to become classical liberals as traditionalist ideology thrives in unstable regions such as the modern third world and medieval Europe (as Joshua elegantly put it ""In a world filled with misery and uncertainty, it is great comfort to know that, in the end, there is light in the darkness.").
I appreciate your sincerity in your response, but no censorship regime has successfully managed to remove the production of books so long as a rudimentary capacity to (re)produce them is available (ie printing presses of the samizdat in the former eastern bloc), and the supply, however restricted, would involved (master) copies in government restricted libraries.
The very fact that Edward "Kaiserino" Sallow can butcher the concept of Fichtean/Hegelian dialectics is enough to imply Stalin's "Dialectical and Historical Materialism" should be in the inventory of the Followers.
Anything in support of Communism or Fascism would be extremely hard to come by, like the actual Anarchists Cook-book. They would be banned, and I highly doubt even the Followers as studious as they are, would be capable of tracking down any of those books.
Also.. Communism isn't really a useful ideology to begin with so.. Lol.
Deathbyautopsy you do realize one of the most common pieces of pre-war literature you can find in NV is the in-game stand-in for the Anarchist's Cookbook, complete with a big ol' "BANNED MATERIAL - MARKED FOR BURNING" stamp on its cover, right? if anything universal classics of leftist thought would be more common in a state that's so unstable it has to deploy power-armored troops against its own population. There'd be many reasons for that, mainly because Its politically engaged people would be desperately searching for an alternative to the status quo that's dragging them inexorably towards extermination, but also because as far as we know they haven't abolished the first amendment completely in the Fallout universe and state-sponsored censorship is famously inefficient even when the state isn't on the verge on collapsing.
Your snarky comment at end makes me believe you have a hard time putting aside your feelings to think critically about realistic worldbuilding, a problem that the mod author seems to share.
I feel like the mod author's inability to put aside his own personal feelings about real-world politics makes this mod redundant. If the whole point of including real world literature to Fallout is to make the world more believable and immersive, why would you exclude any political writings left of Thatcher from the game?
Take Mao's little red book, for example. It was published in 1964 and by 1967 it had been printed in over a hundred countries worldwide. So far, it's estimated that over a billion copies of it have been printed, which makes it the second or third most popular document in human history, right behind the Bible and the Quoran. In the vanilla game, we have Chinese spec ops manuals, Chinese armor, Chinese weapons etc. in various places around the wasteland, how come nobody, not even the explicitly anti-capitalist, book collecting Followers have a copy of it, or any works by Marx, Proudhon, Kropotkin, Bakunin, Lenin, Stalin etc.? I bet you, the person reading this, has at least heard of the Communist Manifesto. I'd be extremely shocked if you if even knew "Bolshevism: A Curse & Danger to the Workers" existed before reading this mod's description. Are we supposed to believe that the intellectual zeitgeist of pre-war America was absolutely obesesed with impassionate defenses of the extremist free market ideology that dragged them to the brink of annihilation, even though american citizens were rioting so much that the state had to deploy power-armored troops to contain its own civillians? Even if pre-war America had abolished the first amendment of its constitution and engaged in systematic book-burnings, no state on the planet has ever been able to completely eradicate what it considers "subversive literature". Clandestine printing operations would exist, both domestic and funded by foreign actors like China and the U.S.S.R.
I do have to agree with the assessments others have made with this mod. It seems politically, mostly only conservative canon has been added. With the followers being outright leftist in nature, I doubt they wouldn't be ensuring political books from all over the spectrum are preserved and accessible. I don't want to make any accusation on the political leanings of the mod author, but I think having more book variety would be far more lore friendly, personally.
Hello, I would like to know if you allow me to edit your file to create a more lore-friendly version and publish it, I want to include stories based on all the games among other things
very nice. i suspect that the Death Stranding-like mod codebase could be smashed together with this mod to produce a library of texts useful for dodging censors in countries that restrict access to outside news, for example
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It can be a chapter from a book that's in the public domain, or something Fallout related that you have written (pre-war history book, NCR novel, etc.)
I would recommend keeping the submission to length of a chapter. Nothing too long as long books are performance heavy.
If you are submitting something you have not written, you will need to make sure it is in the public domain to avoid any issues with copyright. As a rule of thumb, anything published before 1927 is in the public domain. I also recommend looking at Project Gutenberg for a collection of public domain works.
You can use this Google Form to submit your suggestion.
The very fact that Edward "Kaiserino" Sallow can butcher the concept of Fichtean/Hegelian dialectics is enough to imply Stalin's "Dialectical and Historical Materialism" should be in the inventory of the Followers.
Also.. Communism isn't really a useful ideology to begin with so.. Lol.
Your snarky comment at end makes me believe you have a hard time putting aside your feelings to think critically about realistic worldbuilding, a problem that the mod author seems to share.
Take Mao's little red book, for example. It was published in 1964 and by 1967 it had been printed in over a hundred countries worldwide. So far, it's estimated that over a billion copies of it have been printed, which makes it the second or third most popular document in human history, right behind the Bible and the Quoran. In the vanilla game, we have Chinese spec ops manuals, Chinese armor, Chinese weapons etc. in various places around the wasteland, how come nobody, not even the explicitly anti-capitalist, book collecting Followers have a copy of it, or any works by Marx, Proudhon, Kropotkin, Bakunin, Lenin, Stalin etc.? I bet you, the person reading this, has at least heard of the Communist Manifesto. I'd be extremely shocked if you if even knew "Bolshevism: A Curse & Danger to the Workers" existed before reading this mod's description. Are we supposed to believe that the intellectual zeitgeist of pre-war America was absolutely obesesed with impassionate defenses of the extremist free market ideology that dragged them to the brink of annihilation, even though american citizens were rioting so much that the state had to deploy power-armored troops to contain its own civillians? Even if pre-war America had abolished the first amendment of its constitution and engaged in systematic book-burnings, no state on the planet has ever been able to completely eradicate what it considers "subversive literature". Clandestine printing operations would exist, both domestic and funded by foreign actors like China and the U.S.S.R.
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