1) I'm using YUP, and the crashes were happening. From my perspective, either I didn't have what fixes it, or what I had that's supposed to fix it didn't. In both cases I would have looked for an answer elsewhere, and I thought I found it here. I'm a mod user, not a creator, so even if I wanted to dissect any/all of the bug fix mods & packages I have, I wouldn't recognize a smoking gun unless it was spelled out "this code line fixes Camp Searchlight when set to 1 (current setting:0)".
2) When I did my research to try and figure out the issue, some say that YUP doesn't fix Camp Searchlight CTD problems, or at least not *all* of them, because there are some like me that have problems even with YUP. This particular issue seems to have been around forever and there doesn't seem to be only one cause or a miracle fix for all causes. Some say invalid spawn references, some say it's all because of Glowing Ones, many say it's a cell data overload, one modder claimed to have isolated the cause to a popular body replacer mod. How would that cause it? o_O I dunno.
I'll take a closer look at YUP and see if I'm missing something or if there's an answer in the posts for it. Otherwise I'll be happy to share my very short mod list (compared to most) for review. If you think you might be able to spot a conflict or possible trigger for the CSCTD, I'd be very happy to hear your analysis.
YUP provides a fix for the quest at camp searchlight thats similar to the one in this mod.
This mod changes the ghoul troopers (NPCs) into the feral ghoul troopers (creature) Im not sure why. They mention corrupted references on the description but there are none that I see. The deleted references are an issue to because they can cause a crash if something references them.
If you have Fallout Character Overhaul according to Viva New Vegas it installs a glowing ghoul file that decreases performance (and can cause crashes). Could possibly be the issue considering its popular.
I know camp searchlight had crashes in vanilla also. Could be anything to. Meshes, messed up records, faulty scripts. Back in the day people blamed glowing ghouls its something I can attempt to look into.
Edit: Im looking at feral ghoul trooper (creatures) and I noticed they have a flag "Weapon & Shield?" Im wondering if this could be left over from Oblivion and may be the issue. Im too lazy to test it but if you'd like to test it out. Open up FNVEdit find the feral ghoul trooper under creatures. Copy as override to a new esp. Go to ACBS configuration edit flags and then untick Weapons and Shields. Do this for all that have it and activate your new esp in your mod manager then test it out.
It looks like I don't have Character Overhaul, it sounds familiar but I think the recommended mod list I chose to go with said it can be a lot more fussy so I didn't get it and went with a different mod they said would be about as good. Thank you for your help, I've started a forum on the YUP mod for the topic of Camp Searchlight consistent CTDs. I've posted my mod list there for review in case it's helpful for troubleshooting.
Not even sure why this was a problem (I'm guessing the NCR Troopers that got ghoulified were still technically non-feral and was causing a glitch in the scripting) but this mod fixed it right up. Thank you so much, this fixed the issue pronto.
its a shame i even have to use this, but it also breaks something in Project Nevada so i get a pink square for grenades. at least i dont have to be in searchlight for long...
Thanks to the creator and the uploader for this mod/fix. :-)
It's 2020.11 now and my game still crashes when leaving a building inside Camp Searchlight (but not immediately when entering the town). With this fix the crashes are gone, so I assume it still isn't included in any other grand patch (YUP etc.).
Camp Searchlight has been completely dead to me for over a year, and only last night did I finally download this mod. Fixed it immediately, absolutely no issues what-so-ever. Hella endorsed
Unbelievable when I went in Camp Searchlight there isn't been no crash! I was tired of this problem after that of mod Glowing Ghoul, which slowed me a lot of the gameplay whenever I was in the areas of Searchlight. Thank you for this mod.
Note: You should to put it in the YUP's list like bug fixes. Enventually It is possible to fix a error in which several buildings, clothes, people and other become totally black? (if you can)
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1) I'm using YUP, and the crashes were happening. From my perspective, either I didn't have what fixes it, or what I had that's supposed to fix it didn't. In both cases I would have looked for an answer elsewhere, and I thought I found it here. I'm a mod user, not a creator, so even if I wanted to dissect any/all of the bug fix mods & packages I have, I wouldn't recognize a smoking gun unless it was spelled out "this code line fixes Camp Searchlight when set to 1 (current setting:0)".
2) When I did my research to try and figure out the issue, some say that YUP doesn't fix Camp Searchlight CTD problems, or at least not *all* of them, because there are some like me that have problems even with YUP. This particular issue seems to have been around forever and there doesn't seem to be only one cause or a miracle fix for all causes. Some say invalid spawn references, some say it's all because of Glowing Ones, many say it's a cell data overload, one modder claimed to have isolated the cause to a popular body replacer mod. How would that cause it? o_O I dunno.
I'll take a closer look at YUP and see if I'm missing something or if there's an answer in the posts for it. Otherwise I'll be happy to share my very short mod list (compared to most) for review. If you think you might be able to spot a conflict or possible trigger for the CSCTD, I'd be very happy to hear your analysis.
This mod changes the ghoul troopers (NPCs) into the feral ghoul troopers (creature) Im not sure why. They mention corrupted references on the description but there are none that I see. The deleted references are an issue to because they can cause a crash if something references them.
If you have Fallout Character Overhaul according to Viva New Vegas it installs a glowing ghoul file that decreases performance (and can cause crashes). Could possibly be the issue considering its popular.
I know camp searchlight had crashes in vanilla also. Could be anything to. Meshes, messed up records, faulty scripts. Back in the day people blamed glowing ghouls its something I can attempt to look into.
Edit: Im looking at feral ghoul trooper (creatures) and I noticed they have a flag "Weapon & Shield?" Im wondering if this could be left over from Oblivion and may be the issue. Im too lazy to test it but if you'd like to test it out. Open up FNVEdit find the feral ghoul trooper under creatures. Copy as override to a new esp. Go to ACBS configuration edit flags and then untick Weapons and Shields. Do this for all that have it and activate your new esp in your mod manager then test it out.
It's 2020.11 now and my game still crashes when leaving a building inside Camp Searchlight (but not immediately when entering the town).
With this fix the crashes are gone, so I assume it still isn't included in any other grand patch (YUP etc.).
I was tired of this problem after that of mod Glowing Ghoul, which slowed me a lot of the gameplay whenever I was in the areas of Searchlight. Thank you for this mod.
Note: You should to put it in the YUP's list like bug fixes. Enventually It is possible to fix a error in which several buildings, clothes, people and other become totally black? (if you can)