It could, but I made this years ago and I don't really like scripting things the engine does by default. I also don't try to stuff 3000 mods in my game so I have little reason to.
Just saw this and figured to mention @sawosa5971, Yes someone has already done this and released it on here. https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/83946
I trust your modding work as it is god tier. However, why does this mod, which is supposed to affect lootable containers, affect water in cell records as well? Just curious.
Edit: It also removes "public" from NelsonHouse05?
The water edits don't matter at all as the cells don't have water anyways. I'd have to check the Nelson house one, doesn't make sense off hand. I need to update this mod to add ownership to some of the containers in the worldspaces, I'm just on haitus for the foreseeable future.
Thanks for the reply. I can understand and after all the work and stuff I have seen from you, not only from mods but from the TTW forum and Discord channel, I don't blame you at all and I hope all is well and goes well for you. I just allowed all those edits to be superseded by my own personal patch since I was unsure and will probably keep it that way then.
Would there be a fast way to change the all the garbage cans back into their static version (other than go searching through every cell and worldspace edit until I found the ones that are garbage cans and changing them back)? Their animated version never convinced me.
I didn't know Nuka vending machine were static containers in vanilla, I remember I can loot them without this mod, I forgot how this mod works sometimes. One question, is this mod compatible with Working Vending Machines?
I'm unclear on if every container that's been changed now contains something, or if it's random as to if and what is contained in them. Can you add this to the mod description for autismos like me?
Some containers in Fallout 3 locations are using new vegas versions of the containers rather than the DC versions. I noticed this ingame playthroughs ago - I found a sunset sarsaparilla in some computer office, I think in the vault tec headquarters?
I wanted to give the mod another go again in my current playthrough. This still seems to be an issue. From what I've noticed so far, glancing through worldspace records, this affects non-bunch filing cabinets, nuka-cola vending machines, hotel wardrobes, and some garbage cans. This can lead to weird stuff like finding new vegas loot in DC, like the Sunset Sarsaparillas mentioned before, and odd interactions with mods that rely on loot being exclusive between the wastelands, like my own Nuka-Cola Expansion.
Maybe there's some script that can be applied so you can just bulk-replace new vegas containers with DC ones for records numbered 06 onward in your mod? I'm not quite sure if that's possible but it seems better than hand-replacing literally everything.
Before talking about the possibility of doing as you wish... yeah before that.
We are talking about the wasteland that was once the capital of a pre-War superpower. Why the heck did it not have other state's drink? Why? You are literally complaining about you can find Lone star beer in New York, or Manhattan clam chowder in DC.
Why would Capital Wasteland not have some, or many, Sunset Sarparrilla bottles?
I mean that's just how it is in the base game. Consider gameplay before realism. Maybe it makes some locations more interesting having exclusive items?
I didn't come here to report this to debate if you can find regional items in other regions. I just wanted to report an inconsistency with the base game. I'm sure there's a mod somewhere that would make sunset sars appear in DC loot lists if that's what you want.
F3 is out before FNV so of course there's no mention of SS bottles in Capital Wasteland.
OTOH, FNV is out after F3 so they have their own bottles, Sunset Sarsaparrilla brand. YET they still keep the Nuka bottles in F3 as existing in FNV. Even the Quantum, as the rarest loot. And if there's Nuka existing together with SS in Mojave, I see nothing untoward about SS existing with Nuka in DC. After all, SS in DC (in a TTW game) is something of rarest circumstances and already happened.
I'm not sure what your goal is with this. Maybe the mod should instead replace the DC containers with NV containers then? Because right now it's a weird mix of vanilla containers in DC using DC loot lists, and containers added by this mod in DC using NV loot lists. I'm just reporting this issue is all. If Roy wants to replace all the vanilla containers with NV versions instead of the other way around, that's fine with me, whatever Roy wants to do with my information is valid. I'm not debating this. Just pointing out the inconsistencies with the rest of the game.
I went with dc versions of the containers in DC, in general, sometimes there is no equivelent and I did make some of them from scratch for this purpose. If you can provide specific examples (formids) that can help me isolate the issues. Sometimes in TTW the DC versions of containers were removed entirely due to how TTW was made (removing duplicated forms), I have reverted many of those changes by creating DC versions (will have dc appended to the editorid) although there is probably more and needs to be corrected and then the mod updated for it. This stems from NV being literally a Fallout 3 mod, they merged all the dlc into the F3 esm and removed the forms they didn't want to use, then renamed it to NV. This creates a lot of duplicated forms that may or may not be the same between the games. Needless to say this creates a lot of complications and is tedious to track down issues particularly with leveled lists and containers.
VLootHotelWardrobeGen01 00167D0E is used in fallout 3/dlc cells, should use HotelWardrobe01DC 0608B5D6 FilingCabinet 00014BD3 is used in fallout 3/dlc cells, should use FilingCabinetDC 06014BD3 NukaVendingMachine 00020525 is used in fallout 3/dlc cells, should use NukaVendingMachineDC 06020525 GarbageCanUrban01 0001CCCD is used in fallout 3/dlc cells, should use GarbageCanUrban01DC 0601CCCD
DeskWoodTop01ContainerDC 0605E516 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use DeskWoodTop01Container 0005E516 DeskOfficeMetalDC 0601CA90 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use DeskOfficeMetal 0001CA90 DeskOfficeCornerMetalDC 0603AEFB is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use DeskOfficeCornerMetal 0003AEFB AntRefusePile05aCONTDC 0606B846 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use AntRefusePile05aCONT 0006B846 AntRefusePile05CONTDC 0606B845 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use AntRefusePile05CONT 0006B845 AntRefusePile04aCONTDC 0606B843 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use AntRefusePile04aCONT 0006B843 AntRefusePile04CONTDC 0606B842 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use AntRefusePile04CONT 0006B842 AntRefusePile02aCONTDC 0606B756 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use AntRefusePile02aCONT 0006B756 AntRefusePile02CONTDC 0606B6DC is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use AntRefusePile02CONT 0006B6DC AntRefusePile01aCONTDC 0606B6D2 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use AntRefusePile01aCONT 0006B6D2 DeskOfficeWoodenDC 060587B1 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use DeskOfficeWooden 000587B1 DeskWoodTopR01ContainerDC 0602FDDF is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use DeskWoodTopR01Container 0002FDDF
A non-DC version of RnLHotelDesk02DC XX0017E6 should be created using ClutterOfficeB15 00059A9A instead of ClutterOfficeB15DC 06059A9A and should be replaced with it in fallout nv/nvdlc cells
Edit to record 0602B55B (a desk) should be reverted back to a static, because it's in the Tranquility Lane abandoned house
While I agree it would be odd if Capital Wastelands didn't have Mojave products and Vice-Versa, it is worth noting that's not how it works IRL either. There are Water-Rights, for example. Using Soda's an example, you can't get certain sodas in certain regions because the companies that own them have broken the country down district wise. Instead of healthy competition, they instead chose to use their manufacturing power to divide the country up. The Baby Formula Shortage America faced not too long ago wasn't because of a true shortage, it was because one of the major manufacturers that controlled multiple regions in America had to shut down one of their biggest facilities due to poor hygiene and generally low standards in said facility that got them in trouble.
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Edit: It also removes "public" from NelsonHouse05?
The water edits don't matter at all as the cells don't have water anyways. I'd have to check the Nelson house one, doesn't make sense off hand. I need to update this mod to add ownership to some of the containers in the worldspaces, I'm just on haitus for the foreseeable future.
I wanted to give the mod another go again in my current playthrough. This still seems to be an issue. From what I've noticed so far, glancing through worldspace records, this affects non-bunch filing cabinets, nuka-cola vending machines, hotel wardrobes, and some garbage cans. This can lead to weird stuff like finding new vegas loot in DC, like the Sunset Sarsaparillas mentioned before, and odd interactions with mods that rely on loot being exclusive between the wastelands, like my own Nuka-Cola Expansion.
Maybe there's some script that can be applied so you can just bulk-replace new vegas containers with DC ones for records numbered 06 onward in your mod? I'm not quite sure if that's possible but it seems better than hand-replacing literally everything.
We are talking about the wasteland that was once the capital of a pre-War superpower. Why the heck did it not have other state's drink? Why? You are literally complaining about you can find Lone star beer in New York, or Manhattan clam chowder in DC.
Why would Capital Wasteland not have some, or many, Sunset Sarparrilla bottles?
I didn't come here to report this to debate if you can find regional items in other regions. I just wanted to report an inconsistency with the base game. I'm sure there's a mod somewhere that would make sunset sars appear in DC loot lists if that's what you want.
OTOH, FNV is out after F3 so they have their own bottles, Sunset Sarsaparrilla brand. YET they still keep the Nuka bottles in F3 as existing in FNV. Even the Quantum, as the rarest loot. And if there's Nuka existing together with SS in Mojave, I see nothing untoward about SS existing with Nuka in DC. After all, SS in DC (in a TTW game) is something of rarest circumstances and already happened.
VLootHotelWardrobeGen01 00167D0E is used in fallout 3/dlc cells, should use HotelWardrobe01DC 0608B5D6
FilingCabinet 00014BD3 is used in fallout 3/dlc cells, should use FilingCabinetDC 06014BD3
NukaVendingMachine 00020525 is used in fallout 3/dlc cells, should use NukaVendingMachineDC 06020525
GarbageCanUrban01 0001CCCD is used in fallout 3/dlc cells, should use GarbageCanUrban01DC 0601CCCD
DeskWoodTop01ContainerDC 0605E516 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use DeskWoodTop01Container 0005E516
DeskOfficeMetalDC 0601CA90 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use DeskOfficeMetal 0001CA90
DeskOfficeCornerMetalDC 0603AEFB is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use DeskOfficeCornerMetal 0003AEFB
AntRefusePile05aCONTDC 0606B846 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use AntRefusePile05aCONT 0006B846
AntRefusePile05CONTDC 0606B845 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use AntRefusePile05CONT 0006B845
AntRefusePile04aCONTDC 0606B843 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use AntRefusePile04aCONT 0006B843
AntRefusePile04CONTDC 0606B842 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use AntRefusePile04CONT 0006B842
AntRefusePile02aCONTDC 0606B756 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use AntRefusePile02aCONT 0006B756
AntRefusePile02CONTDC 0606B6DC is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use AntRefusePile02CONT 0006B6DC
AntRefusePile01aCONTDC 0606B6D2 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use AntRefusePile01aCONT 0006B6D2
DeskOfficeWoodenDC 060587B1 is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use DeskOfficeWooden 000587B1
DeskWoodTopR01ContainerDC 0602FDDF is used in fallout nv/nvdlc cells, should use DeskWoodTopR01Container 0002FDDF
A non-DC version of RnLHotelDesk02DC XX0017E6 should be created using ClutterOfficeB15 00059A9A instead of ClutterOfficeB15DC 06059A9A and should be replaced with it in fallout nv/nvdlc cells
Edit to record 0602B55B (a desk) should be reverted back to a static, because it's in the Tranquility Lane abandoned house
Nevermind I'm silly, covers both