Congratulations, you made the M14 rifle. All M1s have an internal stripper-clip system, M14s have a magazine system. There was a M1D prototype which had a magazine system, but was to unstable for use.
Similar concept to the Italian BM59. Here's a lil bit of info on it from The Illustrated Encyclopaedia of Rifles and Machine Guns by Will Fowler and Patrick Sweeney:
"With Beretta set up to make Garands, and the United States switching to the M14, Italy decided to make the Garand into an M14. It perhaps cost Italy as much to convert every Garand on hand into their BM59 (and make more) as it cost the US to develop and test the M14. The BM59 magazine, however, was not the same as the magazine of the M14, and the magazines were not interchangeable. Quarter-masters had to be aware of this issue when North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) forces were stationed in Italy during the 1950's and 1960's. All of the Italian efforts were negated in less than ten years when the US switched again to the M16. The BM59 was issued at the beginning of 1959 and the rifles continued in service until the mis-1970's."
Similar concept to the Italian BM59. Here's a lil bit of info on it from The Illustrated Encyclopaedia of Rifles and Machine Guns by Will Fowler and Patrick Sweeney:
"With Beretta set up to make Garands, and the United States switching to the M14, Italy decided to make the Garand into an M14. It perhaps cost Italy as much to convert every Garand on hand into their BM59 (and make more) as it cost the US to develop and test the M14. The BM59 magazine, however, was not the same as the magazine of the M14, and the magazines were not interchangeable. Quarter-masters had to be aware of this issue when North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) forces were stationed in Italy during the 1950's and 1960's. All of the Italian efforts were negated in less than ten years when the US switched again to the M16. The BM59 was issued at the beginning of 1959 and the rifles continued in service until the mis-1970's."
You are slightly mistaken. The m1 prototype you are thinking about is called the m1 carbine.
The m1 carbine was used in WW2 and the korean war and had a 20 round magazine clip. The rifle barrel length was much shorter than the m1. This would give birth the m14 rifle later in the future. So you might have to make the barrel a bit shorter and accuracy a bit less.
Although if I stuck in WW2 or korean war the m1 carbine would have been my rifle of choice. Jack of all trades weapon, good accuarcy, good fire rate, and light.
From a technical stand point the M1 Carbine and the Garand are completely different rifles. They use different gas systems and share very little common design features (and only one screw as a common part). The M1 Carbine also shares no commonality with the M14, the M14 is much closer to the Garand from a technical stand point. The Garand and M14's gas system, action and take down procedures are nearly identical. And as far as barrel lengths go the M14 has a 22" (559mm) long barrel, the Garand's is 24" (609mm) while the Carbine has an 18" (460mm) barrel.
The M1 Carbine had nothing to do with the modernization process of the Garand to the M14, aside from the fact that the exteneral box magazine was a better idea than an En Bloc clip.
Very informational, however I never said the m14 and m1 carbine were esstentially the same. The m14 came to existence due to the idea of the the m1 carbine. Whatever the case may be, there are all generally in the same "family".
I am not planning to make an M1 Carbine at all, I am trying to make an prototype called the T20 which was an M1 Garand that accepted BAR magazines for higher capacity.
The M1 Carbine is a completely different weapon on it's own. The M14 came about years of testing to make the M1 Garand a more potent rifle on the battlefield, it's in no way related to the M1 Carbine,which by today's standard is little more than an extremely large PDW due to the short .30 Caliber round it uses. In fact, RiverNL is completely right in making this weapon, as it existed as the T20. However the T20E1 used it's own magazine, and the T20E2 used another type of magazine that worked in the BAR, but not vice-versa. This is it's own weapon, and was crucial in what eventually became the M14 as we know it today.
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"With Beretta set up to make Garands, and the United States switching to the M14, Italy decided to make the Garand into an M14. It perhaps cost Italy as much to convert every Garand on hand into their BM59 (and make more) as it cost the US to develop and test the M14. The BM59 magazine, however, was not the same as the magazine of the M14, and the magazines were not interchangeable. Quarter-masters had to be aware of this issue when North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) forces were stationed in Italy during the 1950's and 1960's. All of the Italian efforts were negated in less than ten years when the US switched again to the M16. The BM59 was issued at the beginning of 1959 and the rifles continued in service until the mis-1970's."
So there's a mini history lesson for ya lol.
"With Beretta set up to make Garands, and the United States switching to the M14, Italy decided to make the Garand into an M14. It perhaps cost Italy as much to convert every Garand on hand into their BM59 (and make more) as it cost the US to develop and test the M14. The BM59 magazine, however, was not the same as the magazine of the M14, and the magazines were not interchangeable. Quarter-masters had to be aware of this issue when North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) forces were stationed in Italy during the 1950's and 1960's. All of the Italian efforts were negated in less than ten years when the US switched again to the M16. The BM59 was issued at the beginning of 1959 and the rifles continued in service until the mis-1970's."
So there's a mini history lesson for ya lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvFDdo6TMuQ
The m1 carbine was used in WW2 and the korean war and had a 20 round magazine clip. The rifle barrel length was much shorter than the m1. This would give birth the m14 rifle later in the future. So you might have to make the barrel a bit shorter and accuracy a bit less.
Although if I stuck in WW2 or korean war the m1 carbine would have been my rifle of choice. Jack of all trades weapon, good accuarcy, good fire rate, and light.
The M1 Carbine had nothing to do with the modernization process of the Garand to the M14, aside from the fact that the exteneral box magazine was a better idea than an En Bloc clip.
However I do like this since it make "This Machine" a little more unique than the GRA "Battle Rifle"