Copied from my comment on the main page: You really need to fix the surrendering. If I use a Stealth Boy I can completely clear out every enemy by turning them neutral.
Is there a way to make holding up more like MGS, where they'll only be "scared"/neutral as long as you're aiming at them, and as soon as you take your gun off them they'll go back to hostile unless you disarm them?
Maybe make holding them up de-stealth you, as well.
The pushing is also a little too easily abused... but other than that, I have no real complaints. Great mod.
I have a few ideas that I think you could do for Project Ultimatum lol
(1) SLIT NPCS' THROATS
It would totally rock if you could cut people's throat from behind their back ! Would be cool for stealth assassinations !
I know there's a mod on TESnexus called Deadly Reflex which has such animations, and roughly the same script build : a key which triggers the script when correct conditions are met.
You could make it to be only usable if the player has x sneak / x melee to not make it too unbalancing as it would completely overshadow the sandman perk (since they're be no need to wait for the npcs to sleep, simply sneak up on them for behind). Would be a great add to the stealth aspect of your mod =) ------------------------------------------------------------
(2) HOSTAGES
A thing that always bugged me in New Vegas is how careless the NPCS are when they are dealing with the courier. Hostiles NPCs regardless of their chance of survival will gladly commit harikiri by trying to kill the courier !
Well let's make them pay for their idiocy and take them hostages !
I know you already got the surrender script pretty much ironed out so that's already half the work done. You could add a "Take hostage" key that only works on surrendered npcs. It could add new dialogue to tell the hostage to stay put or follow you, or finally let him go. The surrounding npcs of the same faction could then stop attacking you ( or not xD .Make it random or skill based maybe) but still kinda follow you AS real life enemies would do if you took there friend hostage.
The hostage could always try to run away of you get too far or look away or whatever.
It sounds simpler than it is to script, but its just an idea. I would love to be able to enter the NCR embassy, take the embassador hostage, walk out with him while the npcr guards kinda follow me with their weapons out, ready to take me out while I take my hostage back to caesar's camp. It's quite a big task but you never know ^^ --------------------------------------------------------
(3) BRIBE/ SEDUCE PEOPLE into LOOKING THE OTHER WAY
One thing that always annoyed me about NEW VEGAS is the piss-poor Persuasion skills the character has! Sure charisma's nice and so are perks, but sometimes you really need somebody to look the other way so you can get your hands on that piece of kit you so desperately want. But sadly the game only permits you to speak to some NPCS
You could add an dialogue option to all NPCS so that you can make them "look the other way" with some CAPS, or some sweet talk. Hell , with enough caps you could get them to turn against their employer ( they could become temporary companions until you say otherwise in new dialogue option) until the dust settles down and then split ways ! They could always try to backstab you afterward too (after all they has no problem doing it to their friends a second ago and plus they just met you, a scenario which could be made random to add fun and risk to asking "maybe too much" from NPCS)
Would be ACE, just saying =) Imagine guard against guard, husband against wife, dog owner versus dog xD The corruption is endless and the wasteland is a pretty ruthless place where anyone "COULD" have a price.
IF you inject somebody with your mod, they pass out. But ANOTHER could kill them ! People who are asleep maybe need only one injection and they die in their sleep too ? It's up to you. But you could add poisons too ! If given to NPC undetected, they start to loose health and finally enter into a killing frenzy attacking anyone around them as they're about to draw their last breath ( Much like Assassin's creed poison), drawing the attention of their surrounding allies and letting you sneak away =)
Like the narcotics, only with a punch though ! It's not a crime, people in bars do that all the time lol You could also knock them out if undetected for 1 minute while you snoop the place. When they wake up, they could go into caution/ searching mod for a little bit OR be so impressed by your strength that they decide to run away ( could be determined by level difference or summit like that).
Twined with a punching animation, it's a winner to me xD ------------------------------------------------------------
(6) INFILTRATE THE ENEMY'S RANK !
In fallout NEW VEGAS, there's supposedly a disguise system, which in reality is a pretty mediocre alter ego of reputations when wearing some suits. That's NOT GOOD ENOUGH lol !
You could try to add a key that lets you assume the full identity of the mojave factions. If knock out a raider away from his camp, put on his armor and helm, I should be able to at least pass as a fellow raider to his friends. Same for the NCR or legion, regardless of how much I may or not hate them underneath the mask.
Cover could be broken if I attack or sneak too much or simply pass too long near a bunch of NPCS affiliated with my stolen armor. If you get bust because you acted too weirdly, you could always have a speech check option to save your cover like ""speech 65 : I am new here, just arrived from Boulder City...or whatever blablabla"", maybe depending on the faction you try to break in. If you mess that up, your cover will be fully blown.
Just would be cool to REALLY pass for an ally to your enemies.
Quite a few places are guarded by robots. Robots are mighty enemies are will dish out all they'll got...exept they cant dish out if they have been reprogrammed. If you sneaked up undetected on a robot you get a chance at reprogramming it, either turning it off, sending it berserk, turning it against its owners or make it blow up after a countdown. Of course IF you fail to do any of these effectively, the robot's firewall will flare up, go into emergency mode (a buff to the robots health, damage resistance and direct damage) and you better leg it !
Would be fun to turn Deputy Slim crazy killing all who dare gamble their caps away !
a certain kind of C4 that can be put in NPCS inventory if undetected and triggered from a distance with a remote.
What a cool way to take out specific harder enemies. Let's say you wanted to kill a certain tough enemy but it would be too hard to challenge directly or even plant explosives on since he/she is always surroundered by bodyguards. Plant the C4 on an enemy doing its round! Sneak up on him when no one looks, plant the device, move away, wait for the lowly guard to pass by the said tough enemy and BLOW HIM UP ! with the rest of his fellow enemies including that tough guy =) Of course dont just stand there with the remote in hand, it would be a bit suspicious no ? =)
Well that it from me. I Know if was a massive post but you got a really good mod, much like project nevada in the sense that it adds a new dimension to the game that once you start using it, you cant live without. I realise some of these suggestions might be a bit difficult or impossible to execute but I hope my ideas can help you to make project ultimatum a truly awesome mod !
------------------------------------------------------------ EDIT : here's the link to the DEADLY REFLEX MOD : http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8273
if you wanted to have a look at what the animations it has it you feel for it.
I just had an absolutely AWESOME idea if I can say so myself lol
( CRUXIFICTION
Right I dunno how far you'd want to take that but either way you could make your own crosses and plant them into world objects OR use already in game crosses, but you could take prisoners to a scripted cross and put them on it !!!
That would be such a badass thing to do LOL
Theres a mod out there on NVnexus called Grave Digger : http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37935
It's already got relatively well scripted use of moving bodies and stuff like that which could be hard to code that could help with the base for this idea if you asked him.
It would be so cool man, building crosses on the roads and cruxifying the good people of goodsprings right outside their town as a warning !
In the vanilla new vegas, I cant remember if cruxified enemies stay in place once they have been shot ( I think not now I'm trying to remember) but regardless if vanilla has the base covered, it could be done !
(9) WAR CRY
The courier is pretty badass past a certain point in the game. His presence alone should be enough to strike fear in the heart of his enemies. What if he could scream some kind of battle cry that would send his enemies fleeing ? Just like the whistle scripted key that draws enemies, except it sends the enemies running away ? Could add a hidden check between the pc's levels and the hostiles level to determine if the enemies will run away ? Would be cool !
Anyway that's enough from me. Good luck with the mod lol
Possibly have some sort of holding cell for slaves with some added features such as slave labor, gladiator arenas, races, upgrading slaves(skills/slave only gear/perks), and some sort of slave selling business maybe? These all seem like huge tasks, so I don't expect to see any of these, just seemed like cool ideas
I don't found any information on this, so I think I can wrote in french without breaking any rule. I'm sorry for the ones who will need to use a translator for understand my message, but my english expression skill is not as good as I want...
You should include these two mods: (if you haven't already) http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=39315 http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=39347
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You really need to fix the surrendering. If I use a Stealth Boy I can completely clear out every enemy by turning them neutral.
Is there a way to make holding up more like MGS, where they'll only be "scared"/neutral as long as you're aiming at them, and as soon as you take your gun off them they'll go back to hostile unless you disarm them?
Maybe make holding them up de-stealth you, as well.
The pushing is also a little too easily abused... but other than that, I have no real complaints. Great mod.
(1) SLIT NPCS' THROATS
It would totally rock if you could cut people's throat from behind their back ! Would be cool for stealth assassinations !
I know there's a mod on TESnexus called Deadly Reflex which has such animations, and roughly the same script build : a key which triggers the script when correct conditions are met.
You could make it to be only usable if the player has x sneak / x melee to not make it too unbalancing as it would completely overshadow the sandman perk (since they're be no need to wait for the npcs to sleep, simply sneak up on them for behind).
Would be a great add to the stealth aspect of your mod =)
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(2) HOSTAGES
A thing that always bugged me in New Vegas is how careless the NPCS are when they are dealing with the courier.
Hostiles NPCs regardless of their chance of survival will gladly commit harikiri by trying to kill the courier !
Well let's make them pay for their idiocy and take them hostages !
I know you already got the surrender script pretty much ironed out so that's already half the work done. You could add a "Take hostage" key that only works on surrendered npcs. It could add new dialogue to tell the hostage to stay put or follow you, or finally let him go. The surrounding npcs of the same faction could then stop attacking you ( or not xD .Make it random or skill based maybe) but still kinda follow you AS real life enemies would do if you took there friend hostage.
The hostage could always try to run away of you get too far or look away or whatever.
It sounds simpler than it is to script, but its just an idea. I would love to be able to enter the NCR embassy, take the embassador hostage, walk out with him while the npcr guards kinda follow me with their weapons out, ready to take me out while I take my hostage back to caesar's camp.
It's quite a big task but you never know ^^
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(3) BRIBE/ SEDUCE PEOPLE into LOOKING THE OTHER WAY
One thing that always annoyed me about NEW VEGAS is the piss-poor Persuasion skills the character has! Sure charisma's nice and so are perks, but sometimes you really need somebody to look the other way so you can get your hands on that piece of kit you so desperately want. But sadly the game only permits you to speak to some NPCS
You could add an dialogue option to all NPCS so that you can make them "look the other way" with some CAPS, or some sweet talk. Hell , with enough caps you could get them to turn against their employer ( they could become temporary companions until you say otherwise in new dialogue option) until the dust settles down and then split ways ! They could always try to backstab you afterward too (after all they has no problem doing it to their friends a second ago and plus they just met you, a scenario which could be made random to add fun and risk to asking "maybe too much" from NPCS)
Would be ACE, just saying =)
Imagine guard against guard, husband against wife, dog owner versus dog xD The corruption is endless and the wasteland is a pretty ruthless place where anyone "COULD" have a price.
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(4) POISON / EUTHANIZE PEOPLE
IF you inject somebody with your mod, they pass out. But ANOTHER could kill them ! People who are asleep maybe need only one injection and they die in their sleep too ? It's up to you.
But you could add poisons too ! If given to NPC undetected, they start to loose health and finally enter into a killing frenzy attacking anyone around them as they're about to draw their last breath ( Much like Assassin's creed poison), drawing the attention of their surrounding allies and letting you sneak away =)
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(5) KNOCK NPCS OUT COLD
Like the narcotics, only with a punch though ! It's not a crime, people in bars do that all the time lol You could also knock them out if undetected for 1 minute while you snoop the place. When they wake up, they could go into caution/ searching mod for a little bit OR be so impressed by your strength that they decide to run away ( could be determined by level difference or summit like that).
Twined with a punching animation, it's a winner to me xD
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(6) INFILTRATE THE ENEMY'S RANK !
In fallout NEW VEGAS, there's supposedly a disguise system, which in reality is a pretty mediocre alter ego of reputations when wearing some suits. That's NOT GOOD ENOUGH lol !
You could try to add a key that lets you assume the full identity of the mojave factions. If knock out a raider away from his camp, put on his armor and helm, I should be able to at least pass as a fellow raider to his friends. Same for the NCR or legion, regardless of how much I may or not hate them underneath the mask.
Cover could be broken if I attack or sneak too much or simply pass too long near a bunch of NPCS affiliated with my stolen armor. If you get bust because you acted too weirdly, you could always have a speech check option to save your cover like ""speech 65 : I am new here, just arrived from Boulder City...or whatever blablabla"", maybe depending on the faction you try to break in. If you mess that up, your cover will be fully blown.
Just would be cool to REALLY pass for an ally to your enemies.
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6) EXTERMINATE !
Quite a few places are guarded by robots. Robots are mighty enemies are will dish out all they'll got...exept they cant dish out if they have been reprogrammed. If you sneaked up undetected on a robot you get a chance at reprogramming it, either turning it off, sending it berserk, turning it against its owners or make it blow up after a countdown. Of course IF you fail to do any of these effectively, the robot's firewall will flare up, go into emergency mode (a buff to the robots health, damage resistance and direct damage) and you better leg it !
Would be fun to turn Deputy Slim crazy killing all who dare gamble their caps away !
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(7) PLANT EXPLOSIVES
a certain kind of C4 that can be put in NPCS inventory if undetected and triggered from a distance with a remote.
What a cool way to take out specific harder enemies.
Let's say you wanted to kill a certain tough enemy but it would be too hard to challenge directly or even plant explosives on since he/she is always surroundered by bodyguards.
Plant the C4 on an enemy doing its round! Sneak up on him when no one looks, plant the device, move away, wait for the lowly guard to pass by the said tough enemy and BLOW HIM UP ! with the rest of his fellow enemies including that tough guy =)
Of course dont just stand there with the remote in hand, it would be a bit suspicious no ? =)
Well that it from me. I Know if was a massive post but you got a really good mod, much like project nevada in the sense that it adds a new dimension to the game that once you start using it, you cant live without.
I realise some of these suggestions might be a bit difficult or impossible to execute but I hope my ideas can help you to make project ultimatum a truly awesome mod !
------------------------------------------------------------
EDIT : here's the link to the DEADLY REFLEX MOD : http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8273
if you wanted to have a look at what the animations it has it you feel for it.
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I just had an absolutely AWESOME idea if I can say so myself lol
(
Right I dunno how far you'd want to take that but either way you could make your own crosses and plant them into world objects OR use already in game crosses, but you could take prisoners to a scripted cross and put them on it !!!
That would be such a badass thing to do LOL
Theres a mod out there on NVnexus called Grave Digger : http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37935
It's already got relatively well scripted use of moving bodies and stuff like that which could be hard to code that could help with the base for this idea if you asked him.
It would be so cool man, building crosses on the roads and cruxifying the good people of goodsprings right outside their town as a warning !
In the vanilla new vegas, I cant remember if cruxified enemies stay in place once they have been shot ( I think not now I'm trying to remember) but regardless if vanilla has the base covered, it could be done !
(9) WAR CRY
The courier is pretty badass past a certain point in the game. His presence alone should be enough to strike fear in the heart of his enemies.
What if he could scream some kind of battle cry that would send his enemies fleeing ?
Just like the whistle scripted key that draws enemies, except it sends the enemies running away ?
Could add a hidden check between the pc's levels and the hostiles level to determine if the enemies will run away ?
Would be cool !
Anyway that's enough from me. Good luck with the mod lol
Si ce sont des idées que tu veux, j'en ai. En revanche, si je m'écarte du sujet de base du mod ou si mes idées paraissent un peu psychopathe, j'en suis désolé, je ne m'en rends pas compte. Je m'excuses également si certaines idées ont déjà été dites, je n'ai pas pris la peine de lire tous les sujets de discussion. Je précise que je n'ai pas encore essayé le mod, je suis en train de me battre avec NVSE, mais je le ferais dès que je pourrais.
- Première idée. Ce n'est pas vraiment une idée, c'est plutôt une remarque. Si ce mod est couplé avec un autre de tes mods, à savoir "Only war never changes" ou "Get Older" ; est-ce que les goules vieilliront ? Parce que normalement, une goule, ça ne vieillit pas. Je n'ai pas testé, c'est juste pour savoir si tu y avais pensé. Dans la même logique : les esclaves ont-ils aussi besoin d'être nourris, et cetera, quand on ne joue pas en mode hardcore ?
- Seconde idée. Ajouter la possibilité de verrouiller les portes qui ne le sont pas, et empêcher les ennemis de les déverrouiller automatiquement. Je ne compte plus le nombre de fois ou j'aurais aimé pouvoir le faire dans le jeu.
- Troisième idée. Devenir une goule serait aussi un effet secondaire aléatoire qui résulterait de l'absorption de très fortes doses de radiations. C'est comme ça que l'on devient une goule, alors qu'on le soit depuis avant le début du jeu ou qu'on le devienne en cours de route, qu'est-ce que ça change ?
- Quatrième idée. Se servir de quelqu'un comme bouclier humain, voir otage. C'est-à -dire, on s'approche d'un PNJ discrètement (ou pas), on lui passe un bras autour du cou et de l'autre main on lui braque une arme sur la tête. Avec tous les effets logiques, comme que les membres de la faction de l'otage rangent leurs armes, que l'on puisse l'exécuter, et cetera... Le mieux serait de pouvoir continuer à tirer sur les autres malgrè le bouclier humain, comme dans cette vidéo : http://www.runningwithscissors.com/new-postal-3-video-featuring-segways-and-dismemberment
- Cinquième idée. Lorsque l'on fait se rendre les gens, un effet aléatoire devrait en faire pleurer ou supplier certains (notamment les plus faibles), on gagnerait en réalisme.
- Sixième idée. Ce sont des modifications de jeu pour les cannibales. Il faudrait la possibilité de "dévorer" les personnes qui se sont rendues et les esclaves, alors qu'ils sont vivants, ce qui les tuerait. Cette action ne serait pas disponible sur les personnages immortels (notamment les enfants). J'ai également penser que les cannibales pourraient récupérer des morceaux sur les cadavres pour les manger plus tard (les mêmes morceaux que ceux des sacs à gore, qui devraient être mangeables également pour les cannibales).
- Septième idée. Ajouter une gamme d'armes très faciles à trouver et artisanales. Exemples : branches d'arbres, bras coupé, morceau de verre, caillou à lancer... Le principale atout serait le réalisme.
- Huitième idée. Un système de diversion serait le bienvenu. Dans tes vidéos, tu attires l'attention de raiders en sifflant. Le principe est le même : on jette un objet inutile (on le lance comme si c'était une grenade) et les ennemis vont voir ce que c'est à l'endroit où il est tombé.
- Neuvième idée. Augmenter sensiblement les dégâts faits à la tête. Le personnage principale a survécu par miracle à un headshot, mais tous les autres personnages du jeu y sont immunisés ? Bien entendu, les créatures "blindées" et ceux qui porteraient des casques recouvrant le visage entier ne seraient pas affectés.
- Dixième idée. L'utilisation de narcotiques était une très bonne idée. Dans le même ordre d'idée, on pourrait faire des injections létales à partir de poisons violents. On pourrait aussi faire des injections de neurotoxines qui rendraient les PJN agressifs envers tout le monde ("frenzy", ou quelque chose comme ça) pour un certain temps.
- Onzième idée. L'injection directe est une bonne idée, mais si j'étais dans ce genre de situation, j'utiliserai plutôt une sarbacane pour faire les injections à distance (surtout en cas de neurotoxines). Ce genre d'outil serait très appréciable. De plus, avec le système de changement de type de munitions de New Vegas, ce devrait être plus que faisable.
- Douzième idée. Si les PNJ peuvent se rendre, on devrait pouvoir se rendre également. Les créatures continueraient à nous attaquer, mais les raiders & co arrêteraient et viendraient nous prendre des items et / ou des capsules avant de nous laisser partir. On pourrait aussi faire semblant pour les berner.
- Treizième idée. On est à Vegas, on devrait avoir la possibilité d'engager des tueurs à gages. Pour désigner la cible, on utiliserait un système comme "la prochaine personne à laquelle je parlerais" ou un objet à mettre dans les poches.
- Quatorzième idée. Utiliser des gazes. On connaît tous les fumigènes ? C'est le même principe, mais avec comme seul effet celui des narcotiques ou des neurotoxines. On pourrait aussi mettre de vrais fumigènes, qui baisseraient la perception.
- Quinzième idée. La première fois que j'ai jouer à New Vegas, la première chose qui m'a choquer, c'est les armes incendiaires (celles qui sont améliorées par l'aptitude "pyromane"). Quand on brûle quelqu'un, il s'en sort sans la moindre égratignure (sauf les points de vie, évidemment) ! Après avoir été brûlés vifs, ils sont comme neufs. Le mieux serait de changer leur apparence pour une apparence de brûlés et de baisser leur charisme, mais je ne sais pas si c'est faisable.
- Seizième idée. Les compagnons servent plus de gardes du corps qu'autre chose. Il faudrait ajouter la possibilité de faire des stratégies de combat avec eux. Exemple : encercler les ennemis, faire une diversion, et cetera...
- Dix-septième idée. L'utilisation d'armes électriques qui paralyseraient les ennemis (un peu comme la paume paralysante de Fallout 3) augmenterait le côté tactique. Dans la même logique, la possibilité de désarmer les ennemis au corps-à -corps rendrait cet aspect encore plus flagrant.
- Dix-huitième idée. La possibilité de couper des membres (des bras, des jambes) AVANT de tuer le PNJ. Je n'ai jamais compris comment leur peau faisant pour résister à la tronçonneuse quand ils sont vivants et pas quand ils sont morts.
- Dix-neuvième idée. Je rappelle que je n'ai pas encore testé le mod, et donc je ne sais pas si ça a été fait. La possibilité d'"aller au lit" avec les esclaves (comme avec les prostituées en fait). Et la possibilité de mettre un collier à une personne avec qui on vient d'aller au lit durant son sommeil.
- Vingtième idée. Une traduction française ?
Voilà , j'espère avoir aidé, et encore une fois, je m'excuses de ce que j'ai dis plus haut.
http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=39315
http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=39347