I wonder why pre-war bills are still worth some caps at all. It's not like anyone has any use for it. I always thought it would be interesting to find big stashes of cash from rich People from before the war in safes and such, which would give you a feeling of finding a treasure. But then realize that it's all totally worthless now. + it should weigh a small amount so it would actually be regarded as trash that is just increasing carry weight.
It is essentially toilet paper, that's where the value comes from. I actually find myself compulsively grabbing all of the money ingame as it functions as a currency medium (it also has use in Dead Money, casino anyone?)
Its still a currency, its a lot easier to carry around than a whole bag of bottlecaps thats why pre war cash was main and only currency used in Fallout 2 and thats why advanced civilizations like NCR are printing their own cash and ditched primitive caps, only reason why caps are used is nostalgia (they were used in FO1 and many players think its cool and unique concept )
One youtuber explained the economy of Fallout. Stating that Caps are like the gold we use now. "It's harder to find, but not too hard to find." Finding a million $1000 notes by chance skews the economy. So switching to bottlecaps undermines any would-be bank robbers/scavengers from amassing a lot of wealth with little effort. The notes still have value. Just not so much any more.
Fallout 2 does exactly that. There is a treasure hunt in Broken Hills. You find a true fortune in dollars, hidden in the well. Except it has become toilet paper ^^. Well, it is not new that the first 2 Fallout were the better ones.
Pre-war money is nearly junk value in-game, improving slightly with barter skill. But I'd push back about toilet paper - I'd imagine by the 2070s (if still using cash) that the USA belatedly introduce the silver security strip (in British notes for decades) or use polymers (British notes today), meaning notes would contain at least some tiny material value - as indeed much like FO3, NV & FO4 give it.
But there's no way it could have any face value in any Fallout game because there's no central bank or government to back it up. Indeed even caps could only really have Fallouts' value if one imagines they use a desirable alloy or some trace of precious metal for 2077's vending machines to verify. Bethesda introduced the actually useful lore of Nuka having started a redeemable cap as part of a promotion the year the war started (caps could be used in many machines and shops participating in the scheme), and it started a cap-stashing craze. And that's useful because it could arguably mean the caps have something in them for the machinery to verifry.
I do agree that old notes would not merely be relegated to toilet paper. While I don't imagine that most people would either know about the silver in the post-apocalypse, the fabric itself would still be useful. Knowing the stories I do about the people that grew up in the Great Depression? Everything is useful for something.
But as far as face value? Yeah, that person isn't trading you five caps because the notes are worth five caps, they're giving you five caps because it's convenient to insert in their boots to keep warm at night. Or they need a stack to fill holes in their wall, or that the NCR will buy bulk amounts to mulch and then reprint their own currency. Sky's the limit on that!
If you have the mod which changes all nuka and sarsparilla machines into working vending machines, you need pre-war monies to buy the stuff. granted, it's an unlimited supply but you don't have an unlimited supply of dollary-doos to buy more fizzy pop. Doesn't really make sense for there to be flashing and working vending machines (I think the flashing implies they *might* work anyway) and for you to find like 2 or 3 bottles of pop almost every time and there's no mod I know of that like ages the pop either. It is implied through talking about Festus and sunset sars*stars that somehow the machines get stocked still which I think implies that they're still in working-ish order and would still dispense pop if you fed them billz. My 2 cents.
If someone cares, according to the Fallout Wiki "Nukapedia" the Pre-war money are (most likely) stacks of 100 $1 bills. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Pre-War_money
Awesome mod dude! As you said, those little things makes a great difference on the experience. And of course, I totally agree with that! Thanks you cat.
Hey I have a problem I tried downloading this and installing it but the textures aren't showing up and I'm using archive invalidated from Fallout 3 for New Vegas...which surprisingly works and i even have File Date and i tried changing the date of the file to see if it would activate that way i even moved the archive into my new vegas folder as it was in my data folder can someone help me please? what do I need to do now?
just an update if anyone can still lend a hand as i'm still suffering here lol
Never mind. I found out the texture shows in the game just not on meshes in the geck. I also moved the money files into the texture folder and created new texture sets for the money then created new meshes using your money for the texture and just the prewar money mesh. I love your new money textures XD you should make a new texture for cigarettes and casino chips.
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I always thought it would be interesting to find big stashes of cash from rich People from before the war in safes and such, which would give you a feeling of finding a treasure. But then realize that it's all totally worthless now.
+ it should weigh a small amount so it would actually be regarded as trash that is just increasing carry weight.
But there's no way it could have any face value in any Fallout game because there's no central bank or government to back it up. Indeed even caps could only really have Fallouts' value if one imagines they use a desirable alloy or some trace of precious metal for 2077's vending machines to verify. Bethesda introduced the actually useful lore of Nuka having started a redeemable cap as part of a promotion the year the war started (caps could be used in many machines and shops participating in the scheme), and it started a cap-stashing craze. And that's useful because it could arguably mean the caps have something in them for the machinery to verifry.
I do agree that old notes would not merely be relegated to toilet paper. While I don't imagine that most people would either know about the silver in the post-apocalypse, the fabric itself would still be useful. Knowing the stories I do about the people that grew up in the Great Depression? Everything is useful for something.
But as far as face value? Yeah, that person isn't trading you five caps because the notes are worth five caps, they're giving you five caps because it's convenient to insert in their boots to keep warm at night. Or they need a stack to fill holes in their wall, or that the NCR will buy bulk amounts to mulch and then reprint their own currency. Sky's the limit on that!
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Pre-War_money
Thanks you cat.
just an update if anyone can still lend a hand as i'm still suffering here lol