Donation Points Stats and No Ads for Mod Authors

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It has now been well over a year since we launched our mod author rewards program - the Donation Points system - intended to give back to the very people who spend their time creating the mods we all enjoy and love. We're very proud of what we've been able to achieve so far with the DP system and you can now get an overview and breakdown of the distribution of DP on our new, dedicated DP stats page. But that’s not all: As part of our commitment to giving back to our modding community, we recently implemented a site-wide change and permanently disabled advertisements for recognised mod authors.


Donation Points System Stats page is now live

Over 6,800 mod authors have made use of the DP system, opting-in more than 37,000 of their mods in the process. The DP they have earnt have been used to purchase over 370 Premium memberships and more than 400 game keys available in the DP store. On top of that, over $4,000 has been donated to charitable causes including Doctor's Without Borders and the Wildlife Conservation Society.

We are thrilled with how the system has been received and as of today you can get a good overview of how much money we have put into the system thus far, get a breakdown of DP earned “by game”, see how much has been donated to charity and more on our brand new dedicated DP stats page. This page will be updated automatically each month as and when payouts are made, and we'll provide a link to this page from your Wallet page in the near future for easy access.

As you can see on the stats page, we have so far put over $156,700 into the system, or roughly $9,000 per month (up from $8,000 initially) - a sum which is further supplemented every month by the generous donations of users contributing to our Mod Author Donation Fund on Patreon.

Seeing how well the DP system has been received by the community, we are committed to doing our part and will try to give back to mod authors where and when we can going forward.


No more Ads for Mod Authors

In a similar vein, we recently implemented a change to the way advertisements are delivered on our site to include mod authors in the “ad-free” group. In other words: in addition to Premium members and supporters, recognised mod authors will no longer see ads on the site.

This effectively means that if you have released at least one mod with 1,000 unique downloads or more, or several mods that have been downloaded 1,000 times in total, you will no longer be seeing ads on the site. This will be irrespective of whether you are a supporter or Premium member of the site.

This is another small way in which we can give back to the people who are doing their part in making our modding community what it is.


With that being said, thank you to all the mod authors, and happy modding!

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  1. Morghean
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    So how does this goes, do I have to send a message, that I reached the unique downloads limit, or wait till senpai notices me...? :D
    1. Zaldiir
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      It happens automatically.

      But last I checked it was per game, so you have to have 1,000 downloads for mods on one game, but across all games.
    2. Morghean
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      I think I've reached it with FO4 (715+430)... yet I keep seeing ads...
    3. karlarsch1913
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      Same here. My (only) mod hast 2091 unique downloads and 3645 total downloads but I still have ads.
    4. Morghean
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      not gonna wait for you guys anymore... all hail the ad-block plugins...
  2. SMB92
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    Man y'all must really love this new premium advert/interruption. Y'all ought to apply for staff member status or join the marketing and pr team. Y'all must of seen that ad for the first time and been like, "man, what a great addition to the nexus experience this is, never have I seen such a glorious wonder. Surely I will champion this for all the days to come".

    Stuff the dictionary definition, people paying for supporter status shouldn't have that forced down their throat. That is such poor form. At the very least it should be made much less aggressive for the supporters.
    1. zzjay
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      it's not a big deal?

      like they are giving us free money...to buy better PCs and such...i just got a new gpu thanks to those points system they set up.

      This effectively means that if you have released at least one mod with 1,000 unique downloads or more, or several mods that have been downloaded 1,000 times in total, you will no longer be seeing ads on the site. >> this i find it a bit too little as requirement...but i am not the site owner...no idea how much money they make...but if they can survive like this ok...
    2. piotrmil
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      >must of

      Just no.
  3. ZulfatR2
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    NICE
  4. deleted34304850
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    They are not PSAs, they are blatant ads. I'd never use Vortex because of it, and if I ever had, I'd find some cracked version on-line that doesn't have them (or maybe you'd just have to block some hosts or w/e). Do not guilt-trip us into buying something we don't need, guys.
     



    A "cracked" version of Vortex, which is 100% open source? Could you elaborate on that particular snippet of absolute gubbins please, and clarify whatever point you're trying to make here?
    1. piotrmil
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      Didn't know if it's open source, since it is, I suppose a "fork" is more accurate. It's not "absolute gibbins", it is essential idea behind modding: if something is broken, someone fixes it. And since now you clarified it's open source, now it's even easier.
  5. steve40
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    Wow, you've understood nothing I've written. I must be explaining myself poorly.

    Dictionary definitions are irrelevant to this discussion precisely common language and interpretation of it is different than dictionaries. What matters when the Nexus says "Ad-free" is (A): What the nexus means by that and (B): what most people interpret from it. As said, what a dictionary says about it is irrelevant. (A) matters because that's what you are going to get and (B) matters because if it doesnt match (A) then the Nexus should change how they are communicating to clarify it for most people.

    The thing is, your understanding of language is not the common understanding as far as I can tell. I'm fairly sure a majority of people understand "Ad" to be the same the thing that the Nexus meant, third party advertisement and it obviously doesnt include them trying to get you to buy their premium membership or use their mod managers or the mods themselves, even if by the strict definition of a dictionary it would include all those.

    Apparently only a few, you included, supposedly understood "Ad" to include the premium membership annoying window because it bothers you. And then you here are trying to support it applying definitions when its convenient.

     
     

     

    Wow, you've understood nothing I've written. I must be explaining myself poorly.

    Dictionary definitions are irrelevant to this discussion precisely common language and interpretation of it is different than dictionaries. What matters when the Nexus says "Ad-free" is (A): What the nexus means by that and (B): what most people interpret from it. As said, what a dictionary says about it is irrelevant. (A) matters because that's what you are going to get and (B) matters because if it doesnt match (A) then the Nexus should change how they are communicating to clarify it for most people.

    The thing is, your understanding of language is not the common understanding as far as I can tell. I'm fairly sure a majority of people understand "Ad" to be the same the thing that the Nexus meant, third party advertisement and it obviously doesnt include them trying to get you to buy their premium membership or use their mod managers or the mods themselves, even if by the strict definition of a dictionary it would include all those.

    Apparently only a few, you included, supposedly understood "Ad" to include the premium membership annoying window because it bothers you. And then you here are trying to support it applying definitions when its convenient.

    Thank You @ FrankFamily
     

     
    I agree with the point highlighted in green in FrankFamily's comment above.
     
    Some of us would no doubt have formed our interpretation of "ad-free" or "no-ads" to mean "no third-party banner ads" from these posts by Dark0ne here and here.
     
    The problem is, not every one on Nexus will be aware of, or has read, those posts, but many dedicated long-time mod authors or users such as myself (and perhaps Frank Family?) will have subconsciously acquired such an understanding over time.
     
    From a legal and fair trading point of view, however, it is not good form to refrain from clearly defining "ad-free" on the Supporter Membership sales page, they really need to revise their definition so that there is no ambiguity or confusion.
  6. Glass1411
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    Wow, you've understood nothing I've written. I must be explaining myself poorly.

    Dictionary definitions are irrelevant to this discussion precisely common language and interpretation of it is different than dictionaries. What matters when the Nexus says "Ad-free" is (A): What the nexus means by that and (B): what most people interpret from it. As said, what a dictionary says about it is irrelevant. (A) matters because that's what you are going to get and (B) matters because if it doesnt match (A) then the Nexus should change how they are communicating to clarify it for most people.

    The thing is, your understanding of language is not the common understanding as far as I can tell. I'm fairly sure a majority of people understand "Ad" to be the same the thing that the Nexus meant, third party advertisement and it obviously doesnt include them trying to get you to buy their premium membership or use their mod managers or the mods themselves, even if by the strict definition of a dictionary it would include all those.

    Apparently only a few, you included, supposedly understood "Ad" to include the premium membership annoying window because it bothers you. And then you here are trying to support it applying definitions when its convenient.



    Thank You @ FrankFamily
  7. FrankFamily
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    Wow, you've understood nothing I've written. I must be explaining myself poorly.

    Dictionary definitions are irrelevant to this discussion precisely common language and interpretation of it is different than dictionaries. What matters when the Nexus says "Ad-free" is (A): What the nexus means by that and (B): what most people interpret from it. As said, what a dictionary says about it is irrelevant. (A) matters because that's what you are going to get and (B) matters because if it doesnt match (A) then the Nexus should change how they are communicating to clarify it for most people.

    The thing is, your understanding of language is not the common understanding as far as I can tell. I'm fairly sure a majority of people understand "Ad" to be the same the thing that the Nexus meant, third party advertisement and it obviously doesnt include them trying to get you to buy their premium membership or use their mod managers or the mods themselves, even if by the strict definition of a dictionary it would include all those.

    Apparently only a few, you included, supposedly understood "Ad" to include the premium membership annoying window because it bothers you. And then you here are trying to support it applying definitions when its convenient.
  8. Glass1411
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    Ok, let's follow those definitions, completely. If you are supporter then you must have an ad-free experience, that is not be presented with any advertisement at all, advertisement is "the action of calling something to the attention of the public". Mods are being advertised on the site and must therefore be removed for supporters, right?. Supporters should see no mods in the Nexus then, just a blank front page?
     
    Obviously not, because dictionary definitions are useless and irrelevant in this discussion. You want "Ad-free" to include the promotion of premium membership but still be advertised mods when you use the site. That's fine, but as arbitrary as any other interpretation, and, more importantly, it seems to be a different interpretation than the Nexus and some other people have, myself included, when I paid supporter my understanding of what I was buying was clear and seems to match perfectly what I've got. I certainly didn't expect it to remove any promotion of premium membership for the site, full page or not full page. The logical way to remove that is to buy a premium membership. And I also didn't expect it would remove banners for their own mod manager.
     
    Maybe the time to seek clarification of definitions was before buying, instead of making assumptions then and demands now, just a thought.
     



    Please re-read the portion of your statement I highlighted in green. If that sentence is correct and I'm not saying it is or is not, then that would mean nothing, not a single word typed by Nexus can be read and interpreted as meaning the same thing it does in common language.
     
    And FYI, "I" have not ever complained or even read a complaint about the small banner and footer ads for Nexus Premium. And "I" am not complaining about "Mods" being advertised because "Mods" are free to download. My complaint is about the 2 new aggressive advertisements now attached to the download pages.
  9. FrankFamily
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    Ok, let's follow those definitions, completely. If you are supporter then you must have an ad-free experience, that is not be presented with any advertisement at all, advertisement is "the action of calling something to the attention of the public". Mods are being advertised on the site and must therefore be removed for supporters, right?. Supporters should see no mods in the Nexus then, just a blank front page?
     
    Obviously not, because dictionary definitions are useless and irrelevant in this discussion. You want "Ad-free" to include the promotion of premium membership but still be advertised mods when you use the site. That's fine, but as arbitrary as any other interpretation, and, more importantly, it seems to be a different interpretation than the Nexus and some other people have, myself included, when I paid supporter my understanding of what I was buying was clear and seems to match perfectly what I've got. I certainly didn't expect it to remove any promotion of premium membership for the site, full page or not full page. The logical way to remove that is to buy a premium membership. And I also didn't expect it would remove banners for their own mod manager.
     
    Maybe the time to seek clarification of definitions was before buying, instead of making assumptions then and demands now, just a thought.
  10. steve40
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    In response to post #75781843.


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    Arguably, the membership and Vortex "ads" are Public Service Announcements, not commercial advertising.

     



     
    There is and always has been a small banner on the bottom of every mod page that advertises their "Premium" service.
    A full page Ad for a Premium service which offers higher download speeds is not a Public Service Announcement particularly when we were obviously presented that option when we purchased the "Ad-Free" "Supporter" option.

     


    While I interpret "ad-free" in the context of Nexus to mean "no third-party advertising", I can see why some would be annoyed by the ads (yes, I concede that they are) for premium membership on the download pages etc. It's clear that the definition of "ad-free for supporters/mod authors" etc needs to be revised, and ideally, less intrusive advertising of paid services for Supporters/mod authors would be the way to go, given the original promise of "ad-free" with no fine print.


    They are not PSAs, they are blatant ads. I'd never use Vortex because of it, and if I ever had, I'd find some cracked version on-line that doesn't have them (or maybe you'd just have to block some hosts or w/e). Do not guilt-trip us into buying something we don't need, guys.
     



    "Vortex ads" doesn't mean what you think it means.