Fps drop is so heavy whenever I stand on the main command platorm and tune the camera to look at the other sub-platforms at night, and luckily I've found this mod which gives me some ideas. I tweaked ShadowCastingStaticLocalLightMaxCount and ShadowCastingDynamicLocalLightMaxCount to 0, which I suppose one is about shadow casting on static objects by light sources like light poles and that sort of light. The other is about dynamic things perhaps. And that basically solved my problem so far. Without editing shadow resolution, or the distance of lights themselves, I'm getting a pretty stable 60 fps. And of course, no sudden shadow popping (which I did notice when setting those two to 1) along with the reduce of distance between you and the object.
Hello Nice Mod But Uh I'd like to report something the game freezes even though I'd made the shadows on low setting and lighting on very high 😔 if you need my specs its an Intel Celeron N3450 4gb ram and uh Intel Hd 500 its from a shitty laptop don't know when I'll buy a gaming pc hopefully soon thanks!
Hello Ryles, im back after testing a bit more. Im still not exactly sure about what is crashing my game, but i can give you the information i got and what i think could be the issue. Whenever i turn off the shadows everything works just fine, even in the motherbase, but the problem comes when i try to get into a base in any of the maps (i have only tried in Afghanistan). Maybe this issue has to do with how many shadows are trying to be casted, here's why i think that: i tried to complete A Hero's Way, everything was fine until i tried to grab the target, once i grabbed him the game froze, i hope that little bit of information is actually helpful. Also, i will do a full reinstallation of the game, maybe something got messed up by installing some mods.
Thanks for your attention and effort to make this mod better every time.
Hello Chino! Thank you for explaining even more the issue! Im sorry for this problem to persist! :( All the theories I had of how to solve that specific problem ran out. :(
Maybe you should try to use older versions and test if they work well on normal gameplay. If yes, probably we can work from there? I don't know. :(
Hey Ryles, thanks for the mod, really appreciate it. I know it'll be only a minority of individuals who would use it but i would still love to see a more stripped-down version with global fog effects removed!
Hello Weazepezy! Thank you for the kind message, really! Yeah, we with potato pcs understands to pain of each other xD. I will work on releasing a global fog removal version when I can focus on MGSV again then!
After playing a bit more and analizing when does my game freezes and after reading your new comments i understand when exactly my game crashes (i think). When i used to have the OFFSHADOWS mod which removed shadows but it lefts the ones that was casted by light bulbs, what must be crashing my game is the lack of those shadows, is there any manual change i can do to remove the "world shadows" but still have the "local shadows" at 1x1? also, i think releasing a version of the mod that puts everything at extreme low is good after you get the new version done. Thanks a lot for this mods man, i really like this game but i have a reaaaally bad pc, so i still can't hit a playable frame rate with the latest Test build.
You can actually deactivate shadows and the game will still work fine. What crashes the game is how you deactivate them on the code it seems.
About the last test build: Have you changed all options to "Low" on the games menu? Because, as explained, each setting in-game are changed on code level. Most of them have new and greatly reduced values for low end machines. So I'd recommend experimenting them in-game with the last test build more. You can even test "High" and "Extra High" settings, because they also have reduced values, albeit they're higher than "Low" or "Off" values.
I can create an Extreme Low version for you if you want, deactivating every single shadow and reducing the resolution of every shadow that can't be completely removed, removing all fog and light effects too, but this break the game so much that many 'gameplay required' effects are removed and, in my humble opinion, rendering the game unplayable.
By the tests I made, it seems not even light and fog effects lag the game so much as shadows, so I'd recommend you test the last build with Shadows on "Low", as this deactivate Object Shadows, but not Ambient Shadows (which uses Lighting Effects in game's setting.)
In any way, I will be working on a Extreme Low Graphics settings too when I have the time. Sorry the test build couldn't help you yet. Hope you the best and have a good time your loved ones in this end of year! Take care. :)
Thanks for the response, after more testing ingame and doing it many times in different areas i came to the conclusion that it's the shadows that crash my game, let me explain myself a bit more, i have lowered the shadows to "Low" in different situations and all have the same result, when i get near a place that has shadows that are casted by a "man made source" my game crashes, i tried this in different ways, by changing the shadows to low in the main menu and pressing Continue to spawn in the map, and also tried mid gameplay, but all have the same result.
As a side note, i want to clarify that i managed to get a nice frame rate to work with, it's not that close to 30 but because MGSV is a stealth game i can afford to go a bit slower and not use my other guns as much as the sniper and pistol, but when i disabled shadows the game works for like 5 seconds and then freezes, when i tested the frame rate in that tiny moment i saw that the performance boost was about 3 to 5 fps more, which doesn't sounds that high until you realise that my FPS drop to 15 some times.
Thanks for the informations and troubleshooting in your end. Weirdly, when I tested this before, it did not happen to my game.
Still, I will try to follow your steps and see if I can reproduce the problem on my end. Depending on the results, I will proceed with the idea of making an Extreme Low version of the mod. But this will take some time, as it time consuming to test which setting we can really mess up without breaking everything.
For now I have no idea what might be crashing your game because this really didn't happened to me before in all the tests I've done with Shadows and Lightning. So well, I really have no idea for now. :(
About the FPS boost: Yes, it's expected that removing shadows you gain around 5~10 fps on low end computers.
After more tests, I noticed that changing Lightning Shadow Resolutions (Ambient Dynamic Shadows) actually makes the game run slower. That means that the versions I release before with changes to Lightning Shadow Resolutions (Ambient Dynamic Shadows) will actually work agaisn't a good framerate on low-end pcs surprisingly.
In this case: » Vanilla Ambient Dynamic Shadows Resolutions and Lightning Shadows = Stability and Higher framerate » Lower Ambient Dynamic Shadows Resolutions and Lightning Shadows = More freezes, and Lower framerates.
I've been using this test build v2.51 and it works perfectly without or with shadows on an Intel HD graphics. This might be the final version for the new mod page release.
Please test it and report any crashes, freezes, and so on. If possible, and if you feel comfortable to, send the reports on a private mesage with your computer specs so that I can analyse Mod><LowEnd and how much it actually affects each hardware.
Soon I will let this mod page become only a "Classic Low Graphics Settings Mod" with the original mod with SnakeBite installation for whom which prefer it and create another mod page with the "Reworked version" (Test build on files section).
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I tweaked ShadowCastingStaticLocalLightMaxCount and ShadowCastingDynamicLocalLightMaxCount to 0, which I suppose one is about shadow casting on static objects by light sources like light poles and that sort of light. The other is about dynamic things perhaps. And that basically solved my problem so far. Without editing shadow resolution, or the distance of lights themselves, I'm getting a pretty stable 60 fps.
And of course, no sudden shadow popping (which I did notice when setting those two to 1) along with the reduce of distance between you and the object.
But Uh I'd like to report something
the game freezes even though I'd made the shadows on low setting and lighting on very high 😔 if you need my specs its an Intel Celeron N3450 4gb ram and uh Intel Hd 500 its from a shitty laptop don't know when I'll buy a gaming pc hopefully soon thanks!
Im still not exactly sure about what is crashing my game, but i can give you the information i got and what i think could be the issue.
Whenever i turn off the shadows everything works just fine, even in the motherbase, but the problem comes when i try to get into a base in any of the maps (i have only tried in Afghanistan). Maybe this issue has to do with how many shadows are trying to be casted, here's why i think that: i tried to complete A Hero's Way, everything was fine until i tried to grab the target, once i grabbed him the game froze, i hope that little bit of information is actually helpful.
Also, i will do a full reinstallation of the game, maybe something got messed up by installing some mods.
Thanks for your attention and effort to make this mod better every time.
-Chino
All the theories I had of how to solve that specific problem ran out. :(
Maybe you should try to use older versions and test if they work well on normal gameplay.
If yes, probably we can work from there? I don't know. :(
I know it'll be only a minority of individuals who would use it but i would still love to see a more stripped-down version with global fog effects removed!
Thank you
I will work on releasing a global fog removal version when I can focus on MGSV again then!
When i used to have the OFFSHADOWS mod which removed shadows but it lefts the ones that was casted by light bulbs, what must be crashing my game is the lack of those shadows, is there any manual change i can do to remove the "world shadows" but still have the "local shadows" at 1x1? also, i think releasing a version of the mod that puts everything at extreme low is good after you get the new version done.
Thanks a lot for this mods man, i really like this game but i have a reaaaally bad pc, so i still can't hit a playable frame rate with the latest Test build.
You can actually deactivate shadows and the game will still work fine. What crashes the game is how you deactivate them on the code it seems.
About the last test build: Have you changed all options to "Low" on the games menu?
Because, as explained, each setting in-game are changed on code level. Most of them have new and greatly reduced values for low end machines. So I'd recommend experimenting them in-game with the last test build more. You can even test "High" and "Extra High" settings, because they also have reduced values, albeit they're higher than "Low" or "Off" values.
I can create an Extreme Low version for you if you want, deactivating every single shadow and reducing the resolution of every shadow that can't be completely removed, removing all fog and light effects too, but this break the game so much that many 'gameplay required' effects are removed and, in my humble opinion, rendering the game unplayable.
By the tests I made, it seems not even light and fog effects lag the game so much as shadows, so I'd recommend you test the last build with Shadows on "Low", as this deactivate Object Shadows, but not Ambient Shadows (which uses Lighting Effects in game's setting.)
In any way, I will be working on a Extreme Low Graphics settings too when I have the time.
Sorry the test build couldn't help you yet.
Hope you the best and have a good time your loved ones in this end of year!
Take care. :)
As a side note, i want to clarify that i managed to get a nice frame rate to work with, it's not that close to 30 but because MGSV is a stealth game i can afford to go a bit slower and not use my other guns as much as the sniper and pistol, but when i disabled shadows the game works for like 5 seconds and then freezes, when i tested the frame rate in that tiny moment i saw that the performance boost was about 3 to 5 fps more, which doesn't sounds that high until you realise that my FPS drop to 15 some times.
Thanks for the informations and troubleshooting in your end.
Weirdly, when I tested this before, it did not happen to my game.
Still, I will try to follow your steps and see if I can reproduce the problem on my end. Depending on the results, I will proceed with the idea of making an Extreme Low version of the mod. But this will take some time, as it time consuming to test which setting we can really mess up without breaking everything.
For now I have no idea what might be crashing your game because this really didn't happened to me before in all the tests I've done with Shadows and Lightning. So well, I really have no idea for now. :(
About the FPS boost: Yes, it's expected that removing shadows you gain around 5~10 fps on low end computers.
That means that the versions I release before with changes to Lightning Shadow Resolutions (Ambient Dynamic Shadows) will actually work agaisn't a good framerate on low-end pcs surprisingly.
In this case:
» Vanilla Ambient Dynamic Shadows Resolutions and Lightning Shadows = Stability and Higher framerate
» Lower Ambient Dynamic Shadows Resolutions and Lightning Shadows = More freezes, and Lower framerates.
I've been using this test build v2.51 and it works perfectly without or with shadows on an Intel HD graphics.
This might be the final version for the new mod page release.
Please test it and report any crashes, freezes, and so on.
If possible, and if you feel comfortable to, send the reports on a private mesage with your computer specs so that I can analyse Mod><LowEnd and how much it actually affects each hardware.
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Soon I will let this mod page become only a "Classic Low Graphics Settings Mod" with the original mod with SnakeBite installation for whom which prefer it and create another mod page with the "Reworked version" (Test build on files section).
Just to organize things. :)